[6:00pm] jtodd joined the chat room. [6:00pm] J-MN joined the chat room. [6:00pm] Zeeek: I have mod powers [6:02pm] leifmadsen: oh wait... first was Free World Dialup [6:02pm] leifmadsen: saw it on slashdot [6:02pm] leifmadsen: FWD number 18924 [6:02pm] Derek_Jacobs: 21425 [6:03pm] Derek_Jacobs: I worked with Vocaltec back then doing testing [6:03pm] Zeeek: hey Derek_Jacobs [6:03pm] JimD joined the chat room. [6:03pm] Derek_Jacobs: Hi [6:04pm] RandalSchwartz: muddy call [6:04pm] RandalSchwartz: needs more bits [6:05pm] TimCarter: as opposed to 'recorded dead' [6:05pm] jtodd: fwd number 11001 [6:06pm] Derek_Jacobs: Nice [6:06pm] jtodd: I have my VocalTec t-shirts taht I still use to polish my car. [6:06pm] RandalSchwartz: ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Robertson_(businessman) [6:06pm] Derek_Jacobs: BRB [6:06pm] Derek_Jacobs left the chat room. [6:07pm] fred-tmft: I hope this is a catalyst that kills the way the FBI handles this [6:08pm] dcdeadbeat: question for Michael R: why no wideband for OpenSky? [6:09pm] Zeeek: k [6:09pm] RandalSchwartz: I thought shawn was the mp3.com guy [6:09pm] nfusillo joined the chat room. [6:09pm] Zeeek: hey nfusillo good to see you [6:10pm] nfusillo: Greetings. I'm on the call. Just thought I'd join in the conference here as well. [6:10pm] Zeeek: cool [6:10pm] freckle left the chat room. ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]") [6:10pm] RandalSchwartz: skype is for voip what xerox is for copying [6:10pm] RandalSchwartz: to the naive public [6:10pm] Zeeek: ya [6:10pm] RandalSchwartz: or kleenex is for tissue [6:10pm] RandalSchwartz: bandaid for bandages [6:10pm] Zeeek: fridge? [6:11pm] Zeeek: frigidaire [6:11pm] dcdeadbeat: but the public is still using POTS [6:11pm] nfusillo: Pretty much. When describing what 'voip' is, I usually have to mention 1 of 2 names to get people to give me that 'Ahhh... I get it' expression: Skype, or Vonage [6:11pm] RandalSchwartz: yeah, vonage also has some of that mindshare [6:12pm] jameswf joined the chat room. [6:13pm] Zeeek: jtodd: you want to answer the asterisk part? [6:13pm] TimCarter: Skype_For_Asterisk + Asterisk = Skype for SIP? [6:14pm] jameswf: installing fonica... hmm [6:15pm] dcdeadbeat: consider this an official request for wideband [6:16pm] jtodd: Asterisk codec list now includes SIREN7 and SIREN14 (but they're not in there yet - time is the factor) and I would be surprised if we're not supporting SILK "real soon now". [6:16pm] jtodd: This would allow interaction (no transcode) for Skype users. But this is pending, and I don't want to give anyone any ideas that it exists today. [6:16pm] JimCifarelli: Does OpenSky scale? Skype scales because it's a distributed system where the end user can become part of the delivery for other users. [6:17pm] nfusillo: OpenSky is hosted, isn't it? [6:17pm] jameswf: is Asterisk beer or is it wine? [6:17pm] dcdeadbeat: I brew my own beer for quality [6:17pm] jtodd: Asterisk is the cup into which you can pour anything you want. [6:17pm] jameswf: near beer... [6:17pm] Zeeek: jtodd: indeed. TYou can pee in it, too [6:18pm] nfusillo: Shhh... don't talk about wholesale PSTN irrelevance. The telco goons will make you disappear.... [6:18pm] jtodd: Zeeek: As many people do. [6:18pm] jtodd: And they blame the cup for the taste. But that is true for so many things... [6:18pm] dcdeadbeat: ten people that install business VOIP systems means a lot [6:18pm] Zeeek: hahah [6:19pm] fred-tmft: like g729 pricing ? [6:19pm] Michael___ joined the chat room. [6:20pm] jameswf: :0 [6:20pm] fred-tmft: that's ridiculous pricing... way too high [6:20pm] e4voip joined the chat room. [6:20pm] e4voip left the chat room. (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [6:20pm] jameswf: so $100 per call [6:20pm] fred-tmft: 100 per channel? [6:20pm] fred-tmft: ridiculous [6:21pm] fred-tmft: 8 - 10 is going biz rate [6:21pm] fred-tmft: up to 20 sometimes [6:21pm] dcdeadbeat: isn't OpenSky a registered trademark of Tyco Electronics? Shouldn't you rename it so it doesn't get bogged down by litigation? [6:21pm] jameswf: What doesnt Tyco do [6:22pm] jameswf: Our UPS printers are Tyco [6:22pm] makaveli9 joined the chat room. [6:22pm] RandalSchwartz: denied! [6:22pm] Zeeek: yu [6:22pm] jameswf: I <3 G.729 [6:22pm] Zeeek: someone had really bad echo [6:22pm] Zeeek: so I cut em [6:23pm] McPear joined the chat room. [6:24pm] nfusillo: So we can expect a random name change in the way SIPphone became Gizmo Project? [6:24pm] jameswf: trademarks relate to "business types" Rhino is used allover [6:24pm] RandalSchwartz: skygiz [6:25pm] RandalSchwartz: skype5! [6:25pm] Zeeek: hahahha [6:25pm] RandalSchwartz: skygiz, with a soft g. [6:25pm] nfusillo: Skypemo5 [6:25pm] jameswf: You could call it Epyks [6:25pm] Derek_Jacobs joined the chat room. [6:25pm] dcdeadbeat: right but Tyco's OpenSky is a packet data digital voice system...way too close [6:25pm] RandalSchwartz: 'sup, skype? [6:25pm] fred-tmft: OpenSkyHighPrice [6:25pm] Michael___: Is OpenSky contemplating implementing the SILK codec to avoid transcoding? [6:26pm] imchandave: Let's not get porno over here Randal, 2nd hour... [6:26pm] nfusillo: Yeah. There's a lawsuit waiting to happen there. [6:26pm] Zeeek: heh [6:26pm] RandalSchwartz: I want to ask about gizmo's special status with grandcentral (now google voice) [6:26pm] Zeeek: me 2 [6:26pm] dcdeadbeat: lawsuits can ruin good products [6:26pm] Bananaskin joined the chat room. [6:26pm] nfusillo: Special status? [6:26pm] jameswf: Filez.com == a piracy site? [6:26pm] Zeeek: RandalSchwartz: call [6:26pm] RandalSchwartz: I'm still doing errands here. give me another 10 or so [6:26pm] nfusillo: mp3.com was originally. [6:27pm] RandalSchwartz: pre-introduction introduction [6:27pm] jasonwert joined the chat room. [6:27pm] jtodd: The bad news is that RTP always flows through those guys on the calls. [6:27pm] jameswf: What TF happend to Back door calling [6:27pm] dcdeadbeat: it was unfortunate that Google turned off sip connectivity this week [6:27pm] Zeeek: jtodd: thru who? [6:28pm] Zeeek: dcdeadbeat: WHAT? [6:28pm] MicroChip32 left the chat room. [6:28pm] nfusillo: They DID? [6:28pm] Zeeek: nawwww! [6:28pm] jameswf: Gizmo should bring back the backdoor [6:28pm] Zeeek: we'll get to that [6:28pm] jtodd: Pretty much any of these protocol conversion tricks required RTP to be relayed through the remote server. That means unless the system is distributed, lots of latency is introduced. [6:28pm] dcdeadbeat: nerdvittkes had an article on how to connect to it [6:29pm] jtodd: That includes Asterisk, OpenSky, or any of these. [6:29pm] RandalSchwartz: crazy [6:29pm] RandalSchwartz: ... http://merlyn.vox.com/library/post/free-calls-anywhere-thanks-to-gizmo-grandcentral.html [6:30pm] dcdeadbeat: http://nerdvittles.com/?p=597 is the for url for connecting by sip to Google's servers [6:31pm] jtodd: To the earlier question about the TC400 being used for Skype transcoding: the answer is "No." It's fixed for transcoding; not a flexible DSP. [6:32pm] jameswf: Pirates eat lunch at Arrrrbys [6:32pm] mikel-us joined the chat room. [6:33pm] mikel-us: greetings [6:33pm] Zeeek: hi mikel-us [6:33pm] Zeeek: welcome (back) [6:33pm] Derek_Jacobs: JTodd remember Scott Wharton from Vocaltec? Seen his latest venture? [6:34pm] jtodd: Derek_Jacobs: No, I haven't seen it. Got a URL? [6:34pm] Derek_Jacobs: www.vidtel.com [6:34pm] jtodd: Derek_Jacobs: I dealt mostly with the guys from Israel from VocalTec - engineers when they were a 5(?) person company. [6:34pm] jameswf: google wants to buy twitter [6:34pm] Derek_Jacobs: Yeal and Elon? [6:34pm] dcdeadbeat: how does Google pay for its Goog-411 service? [6:35pm] nfusillo: Same way they'll monetise Twitter. Information. Who's calling whom about what? Who's chatting about what? Etc. Google's always been after being that fount of information for all things. [6:35pm] Zeeek: who wants to ask anderiv question? [6:36pm] jameswf: google is an information company, they broker information [6:36pm] RandalSchwartz: i'm calling in [6:36pm] Zeeek: RandalSchwartz: anyone whose naùe begins with Rand will be immediately accepted [6:36pm] mikel-us: I read a tweet that Murdoch also wants to buy twitter [6:36pm] ricko73: finally made it here [6:36pm] DaveM_in_CO: i think google voice will become fee based and geared toward the enterprise. [6:37pm] McPear: Are there any plans to do instant messaging, or "just" voice? [6:37pm] Zeeek: I think they do SMS now [6:37pm] RandalSchwartz: dunno if I'll echo though [6:37pm] nfusillo: With OpenSky? [6:37pm] DaveM_in_CO: murdoch won't buy twitter - the content is not controlled [6:37pm] Michael___: Question for Michael: Is OpenSky contemplating implementing the SILK codec in the Gizmo5 client to avoid transcoding calls with Skype clients? [6:38pm] dcdeadbeat: concentrate on wideband and you will win this group over [6:38pm] Zeeek: heh [6:38pm] Zeeek: but we're all cheap here [6:38pm] jameswf: Should write a deal to check teitter from asterisk... [6:38pm] jameswf: not that bored [6:38pm] ricko73: in python [6:38pm] markwaters left the chat room. [6:38pm] Zeeek: in COBOL [6:38pm] TimCarter: ROFL [6:40pm] jameswf: Probably useful would be to read #traffic tag and do a tts asterisk deal. [6:40pm] dcdeadbeat: COBOL programming paid for my college experience and then again Y2K fixes paid for my house [6:40pm] nfusillo: I use SIPbroker dialins rather regularly from my cell to connect to users on various networks. With the OpenSky stuff, I've added a call forwarding URI to talk to people, and I don't even have to SMS while driving. [6:40pm] RandalSchwartz: i want to apologize for gizmo ripping me off for 18.90 last week [6:41pm] RandalSchwartz: the support group actually made good and reversed it within a day [6:41pm] Zeeek: well go ahead and confess! [6:41pm] ricko73: RandalSchwartz good to hear your arm is finally healing [6:41pm] RandalSchwartz: waiting for a place to jump in [6:41pm] Zeeek: I shall call on you [6:41pm] Zeeek: raise your hand [6:42pm] RandalSchwartz: the good one, or the ugly one? [6:42pm] Zeeek: and wave the palm as if you needed to pee [6:42pm] nfusillo: This echo's great. Sounds like he's at a ball park. [6:42pm] dcdeadbeat: I thought he had a cup for that [6:43pm] Bananaskin_ left the chat room. (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [6:43pm] jtodd: Ha! I forgot that was with CallWave. [6:43pm] jameswf: anyone have piaf installed? [6:43pm] Derek_Jacobs left the chat room. [6:43pm] nfusillo: Indeed. [6:43pm] DaveM_in_CO: Q for Mike: is there a way to call out via pbx over gizmo with googlevoice callerid? [6:44pm] RandalSchwartz: still also have ot make my apology [6:44pm] Zeeek: good q but I doubt it [6:44pm] nfusillo: No software needed. Just your portable headset. [6:44pm] nfusillo: Which I ALWAYS carry around... [6:44pm] nfusillo: Or something [6:44pm] jtodd: crappy and expensive flash codec. [6:45pm] DaveM_in_CO: where is my credit? [6:46pm] nfusillo: Yeah... the support form is summarily ignored for anything but money issues. [6:46pm] RandalSchwartz: oh i should also mention I'm hooked in via gizmo client [6:47pm] nfusillo: Suckup. [6:47pm] RandalSchwartz: heh [6:47pm] jameswf: Growth of manhood [6:47pm] RypPn: It would be nice if gizmo had lower latencies in europe, pretty much unusable here [6:47pm] Zeeek: where is here? [6:47pm] RypPn: scotland [6:47pm] Zeeek: good here in France [6:48pm] nfusillo: Does Gizmo always proxy audio? [6:48pm] nfusillo: I know it does if you're sending a private IP (not using STUN), but I was curious. [6:49pm] RypPn: 232ms, voiptalk and sipgate are circa 50ms [6:49pm] Zeeek: voiptalk is like 15ms here in Paris [6:49pm] Zeeek: so... [6:49pm] Zeeek: it may be local [6:49pm] jtodd: Hm. Devil is in the details here. [6:49pm] RandalSchwartz: gizmo down under. [6:49pm] dcdeadbeat: why Gizmo5 for the name? [6:49pm] jameswf: 1-4 was taken [6:49pm] mikel-us: worldmikel here: I came in muted by the cast [6:50pm] imchandave: Too bad Gizmo stopped updating their Nokia 770 client. [6:50pm] mikel-us: AppName: gizmo5.exe AppVer: 4.0.5.389 ModName: sipphoneapi.dll [6:50pm] Zeeek: mikyou're good [6:50pm] Zeeek: mikel-us: [6:50pm] jameswf: I still want back door back but you get what you pay for... [6:51pm] linuxninjas: 175 ms from Belgium [6:51pm] dcdeadbeat: what about an iphone client? [6:51pm] makaveli9 left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [6:51pm] jtodd: 175ms of what? To where? Is that to the RTP endpoint? [6:51pm] RypPn: good explanation, speech recog in tellme works ok in the main [6:52pm] Zeeek: mikel-us: sorry, everyone name is Michael! [6:52pm] mikel-us: [6:52pm] RandalSchwartz: iphone dialing already possible with fring and a few others [6:52pm] mikel-us: I know [6:52pm] RandalSchwartz: but no sip dialing! just outcall pots [6:52pm] jtodd: Heh. Yes, it's very difficult to give people something for free, especially universities. [6:52pm] RandalSchwartz: dunno why they don't let us enter a sip [6:52pm] Zeeek: beb - if there's silence, Michael take over! [6:53pm] dcdeadbeat: yeah but if they want to compete with Skype..they need their own client for the iphone [6:54pm] jameswf: I guess I am off the call my sound server just crashed... again I need 9.04 [6:54pm] Zeeek: back [6:54pm] Michael___: Voice Peering Fabric [6:54pm] leifmadsen: I love DUNDi [6:55pm] jtodd: freenum.org works pretty well, but doesn't work with Gizmo due to non-RFC compliance of their server. [6:55pm] Zeeek: aw! [6:55pm] Zeeek: mikel-us: you have to ask your question [6:55pm] nfusillo: We (IdeaSIP) peer directly with Gizmo Project [6:56pm] Zeeek: leifmadsen: any comments? questions? [6:56pm] nfusillo: We set it up originally directly with their support. [6:56pm] RandalSchwartz: iphone client/ [6:56pm] RandalSchwartz: ? [6:56pm] nfusillo: Currently, it's semi-broken, and difficult to get anyone to fix. I'll have to email Michael directly about it. [6:56pm] fred-tmft: had to drop off [6:56pm] e4voip joined the chat room. [6:56pm] Zeeek: e4voip: hey now [6:57pm] e4voip: Hi.. [6:59pm] nfusillo: Michael's primarily a businessman. I don't think he's necessarily going to know why something's gone wrong. [6:59pm] Zeeek: sure [6:59pm] RandalSchwartz: want to ask about iphone client [6:59pm] leifmadsen: Zeeek: nothing from me! [7:00pm] mikel-us: thanks much [7:00pm] DaveM_in_CO: Randy, pick me pick me. [7:00pm] Zeeek: k [7:00pm] Zeeek: jump in if you hear silence or I'll call on ya [7:01pm] jtodd: RandalSchwartz: you might want to take a look at rf.com and fring. [7:01pm] jtodd: rf.com will be doing an iPhone app shortly that I think does what you want. [7:03pm] nfusillo: That's one of the reasons we have so many speed dial numbers... a lot of people use them to forward to URIs when they can only use a dial pad. [7:03pm] sedwards50 joined the chat room. [7:04pm] aster1sk joined the chat room. [7:05pm] Zeeek: nfusillo: funny how the DID just started working! [7:05pm] nfusillo: Just now? [7:05pm] Michael___ left the chat room. [7:05pm] Zeeek: no earlier today. Maybe the ulaw thing? [7:06pm] nfusillo: Yeah. Like I said, we turned off all CODECs other than ulaw. It's odd that their server wasn't able to negotiate a CODEC that was asked for. [7:07pm] e4voip: thanks Michael... [7:08pm] ricko73: lol [7:08pm] DaveM_in_CO: i have to say gizmo is pretty impressive. [7:08pm] nfusillo: The adult version? [7:08pm] ricko73: those loose frenchmen [7:08pm] nfusillo: Does it include heavy breathing? [7:08pm] TabbertMJ: That's what happens when you drink during the call! [7:09pm] e4voip: i need a drink [7:09pm] TimCarter: 'fluid balancing' [7:09pm] leifmadsen: ok... lunch! [7:09pm] leifmadsen: back in a bit [7:10pm] McPear: nooone using app_voicechanger.so ;-)? [7:10pm] jtodd: Someone give Zeeek a real cue deck, please. [7:11pm] jtodd: ...and a real volume control. [7:11pm] jtodd: Yep. [7:13pm] linuxninjas: If you are planning to travel to belgium : one of my providers is giving free cals away to the US http://www.3starsnet.com/index.php/UnlimitedCalls/en/ [7:15pm] RandalSchwartz: lost audio [7:15pm] imchandave: what happened to the audio? [7:15pm] nfusillo: Vanished. [7:15pm] _ShrikE: hello? [7:15pm] jtodd: Yeah, me too. [7:15pm] ricko73: no Randy [7:15pm] TimCarter: Umm [7:15pm] TabbertMJ: Did he mute himself! [7:15pm] TimCarter: Beuller? [7:15pm] aster1sk: Hahaha [7:15pm] ricko73: jtodd: are you on zipdx or the other bridge [7:15pm] jtodd: I'm on sip. [7:15pm] Zeeek: hear me [7:15pm] RandalSchwartz: no audio on talkshoe [7:15pm] Zeeek: ? [7:15pm] e4voip: i'm on zipdx [7:15pm] mykhyggz: me three. [7:15pm] TimCarter: This VoIP thing is just a fad. [7:15pm] jtodd: 123@ts.x2z.eu [7:15pm] mikel-us: sure got quiet all of a sudden [7:16pm] McPear: it's dead jim. [7:16pm] ricko73: anyone else in irc that lost audio [7:16pm] Zeeek: Captain, I'm givin all she's got [7:16pm] aster1sk: Yes [7:16pm] nfusillo: Yep. [7:16pm] imchandave: me. [7:16pm] sedwards50: no audio. I'm on zipdx. [7:16pm] TimCarter: Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor not a VoIP engineer! [7:16pm] RandalSchwartz: dead dead dead [7:16pm] dcdeadbeat: i hear the wideband just fine but no Randy [7:16pm] RypPn: shoot the dog [7:16pm] nfusillo: I called back via SIP. Still nothing. [7:16pm] mikel-us: i ate the dilithium crystals... i was hungry [7:16pm] aster1sk: As fif i [7:16pm] mikel-us: at least it stayed alive for the recording part [7:16pm] imchandave: We might have lost Randy. [7:16pm] Zeeek: anyone hearing anything on ZipDX? [7:17pm] TimCarter: I think he is doing this to avoid giving away the Polycom [7:17pm] fred-tmft left the chat room. [7:17pm] e4voip: well that narrows the field for the Polycom giveaway [7:17pm] imchandave: [7:17pm] dcdeadbeat: was it a FreeBSD issue? [7:17pm] mikel-us: hahaha [7:17pm] sedwards50: Let me be more specific. I'm on zipdx, I can hear everybody (I assume) except for Randy. [7:17pm] DaveM_in_CO left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [7:17pm] TimCarter: I'm on TS via SIP and I hear nothing [7:17pm] nfusillo: Possibly the talkshoe SIP? [7:17pm] imchandave: so, we lost the talkshoe bridge. [7:17pm] nfusillo: Same. I'm on TS SIP and it's got nothing. [7:17pm] e4voip: VoIP is dead... [7:17pm] imchandave: I'm on talkshoe...no audio. [7:17pm] davevg-btwtech: same [7:17pm] nfusillo: It doesn't even give me their default message when I call in. [7:17pm] TimCarter: has someone tried re-dialing into TS? [7:18pm] nfusillo: I did. [7:18pm] nfusillo: Nothing. [7:18pm] TimCarter: answerd? [7:18pm] nfusillo: Answered. [7:18pm] RandalSchwartz: no audio [7:18pm] nfusillo: But no audio. [7:18pm] _ShrikE: I get the same. No audio at all. [7:18pm] nfusillo: SIP's passing okay (I see it on the IdeaSIP server logs) [7:18pm] RandalSchwartz: ahh now it's working [7:18pm] TimCarter: but no RTP? [7:18pm] RandalSchwartz: audio in talkshoe [7:18pm] imchandave: Randy wants us all on the wideband bridge [7:19pm] TimCarter: as if [7:19pm] mikel-us: you hear audio on talkshoe? i don't [7:19pm] RandalSchwartz: verizon guy impression - can you hear me now [7:19pm] dcdeadbeat: David's product always works. It always seems to be TalkShoe [7:19pm] RandalSchwartz: I hear audio on talkshoe web client [7:19pm] TimCarter: No TS audio here either [7:19pm] nfusillo: I see RTP being sent to Talkshoe, but nothing coming back. [7:19pm] RandalSchwartz: but not when I was called in [7:19pm] jtodd: I see no media coming back from talkshoe, either. [7:19pm] nfusillo: (That's from the IdeaSIP gateway) [7:19pm] ricko73: hang up and call back into talkshoe [7:19pm] RandalSchwartz: in the force... [7:19pm] RandalSchwartz: disturbance [7:20pm] RandalSchwartz: as if 1000 people went offline [7:20pm] jtodd: I'm sending to 66.212.134.192 , but nothing in the opposite direction from that or any other IP address for UDP media. [7:20pm] TimCarter: redialing... [7:20pm] DFrankel joined the chat room. [7:20pm] nfusillo: And were certainly silenced. [7:20pm] TimCarter: answer but nothing [7:20pm] _ShrikE: redialed... no go [7:20pm] mykhyggz: just a ring, silence... [7:20pm] jtodd: Help us, OutOfBand Kenobi - you're our only hope. [7:20pm] TimCarter: SIP workie, RTP not so much [7:20pm] nfusillo: The talshoe server answers with a SIP response, but does not respond with RTP. [7:20pm] TimCarter: @jtodd: G R O A N! [7:20pm] ricko73: who killed the wookie! [7:21pm] linuxninjas: TS via PSTN continued to work [7:21pm] aster1sk: I was on ideasip and lost the stream, moved to ZipDX and sounds great [7:21pm] RandalSchwartz: my sip into talkshoe went dead, switched to web, and it works [7:21pm] nfusillo: I'm pretty sure Talkshoe just hates us (IdeaSIP). [7:22pm] TimCarter: PSTN # for TS? [7:22pm] RandalSchwartz: 1 724 444-7444 show 22622 [7:22pm] nfusillo: Lately, we've been having nothing but issues with their SIP connection. [7:22pm] linuxninjas: I'm on talkshoe and can hear (using PSTN) [7:22pm] ricko73: WTW? (what the wookie?) [7:22pm] RandalSchwartz: web client working on talkshoe [7:22pm] RandalSchwartz: listen-only [7:23pm] imchandave: It's ideasip. [7:23pm] RandalSchwartz: haven't tried talkshoe shoephone [7:23pm] dcdeadbeat: stream works on TalkShoe [7:23pm] TimCarter: PSTN has audio [7:23pm] imchandave: Calling into talkshoe via the 724-444-7444 one works. [7:24pm] jtodd: ricko73: http://www.entertonement.com/clips/4444/Ralph-Wiggum/I-bent-my-wookie [7:24pm] RandalSchwartz: system audio in/out [7:24pm] imchandave: It's ideasip!! [7:24pm] RandalSchwartz: shoephone is lame [7:24pm] imchandave: [7:24pm] RandalSchwartz: no selection of audio [7:24pm] RandalSchwartz: just uses system in/out [7:24pm] RandalSchwartz: "dial 1" [7:24pm] ricko73: jtodd: ROFLMWO! [7:24pm] imchandave: the PSTN works. [7:24pm] imchandave: for talkshoe. [7:25pm] imchandave: but calls bounced off of ideasip is not working. [7:25pm] TimCarter: This is def. worth $0.005 per minute. [7:25pm] • RandalSchwartz looks at the list of other live shows to see where he'll end up [7:25pm] nfusillo: Yeah. For some reason, Talkshoe isn't sending us back RTP. [7:25pm] TimCarter: evil echo [7:25pm] RandalSchwartz: i hear you pstn [7:25pm] dcdeadbeat: big red button [7:25pm] RypPn left the chat room. ("It would be so easy, if I had the right horse!") [7:25pm] nfusillo: It just takes it and never gives back. So inconsiderate. [7:26pm] RandalSchwartz: control shift meta cokebottle [7:26pm] dcdeadbeat: don't forget the \ [7:26pm] jtodd: I'm envisioning something like: "I don't think this firewall change will effect anyone - let's do it now, in the middle of the day - no problem!" [7:26pm] TimCarter: yes [7:26pm] RandalSchwartz: talkshoe narrowband [7:26pm] ricko73: looks like sip to talkshoe is broked [7:27pm] nfusillo: I can assure you, no changes were made on the IdeaSIP side. I just beat our network guy in the hallway to find out. [7:27pm] RandalSchwartz: this is clearly the *future* of communication! [7:27pm] imchandave: I am [7:27pm] ricko73: the future of 100 year old communication [7:27pm] imchandave: I'm on the ideasip line as well. [7:27pm] imchandave: no audio on the ideasip proxy. [7:28pm] RandalSchwartz: talkshoe sip dialin is dead [7:28pm] imchandave: but you can't record the silence. [7:28pm] jtodd: OK, and with that.... I'm off to other things. [7:28pm] RandalSchwartz: not asking what call I want [7:28pm] TimCarter: If you record silence can you hear it later? [7:29pm] jtodd: But the few moments of silence have allowed me to surf the Simpsons archives, so I got something worthwhile out of the delay. [7:29pm] jtodd: http://www.entertonement.com/clips/50698/Willy-teaches-French [7:29pm] TimCarter: nice [7:29pm] imchandave: Cleveland is me. [7:29pm] imchandave: My US line. [7:29pm] DFrankel: jtodd when are we getting you converted to wideband? [7:30pm] nfusillo: Okay. I'm off to go eat something. Randy, shoot me an email if you need me to do anything on the IdeaSIP side. [7:30pm] Zeeek: nfnice 2 see ya [7:30pm] jtodd: Eh... I'm really interested in it, but I'm also kind of attached to my 7960. I've got an army of Polycoms in the basement, maybe I'll drag one up here some day. [7:31pm] nfusillo left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [7:31pm] Zeeek: I'm gonna write to talkshoe support [7:31pm] RandalSchwartz: yep... sip calls into talkshoe are geting answered, but nobody asking what show number. [7:31pm] jtodd: And anyway, until SIREN7 and SIREN14 are implemented for transcoding in Asterisk, I'm holding off. [7:31pm] DFrankel: As in Cisco 7960? Doesn't that do G.722? [7:31pm] RandalSchwartz: i'm wandering off... later guys... [7:32pm] TimCarter: I also -- clients are calling [7:32pm] TimCarter: ciao [7:32pm] RandalSchwartz: lemme try shoephone, one last try [7:32pm] jtodd: DFrankel: I don't think it does G.722, at least not in the version I'm running. [7:32pm] TabbertMJ: The 7965 does. [7:32pm] DFrankel: You may be right; too old. [7:32pm] RandalSchwartz: shoephone is trying [7:33pm] RandalSchwartz: nope. fail. [7:33pm] TimCarter left the chat room. [7:34pm] ricko73: http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/03/chimpanzee-riding-on-a-segway/ [7:35pm] jasonwert: Randal, when will there be a VoIP geek cruise? [7:35pm] RandalSchwartz: too much latency [7:36pm] RandalSchwartz: or is that latent-sea ? [7:37pm] Zeeek: back in 1 min [7:37pm] RandalSchwartz: another pee break? [7:38pm] RandalSchwartz: voice over. i pee. [7:38pm] ricko73: TMI [7:38pm] ricko73: har har [7:38pm] jasonwert: haha [7:39pm] sedwards50: I'm looking for a browser based VOIP client so my customers can click on a link and connect to my Asterisk server. They need to enter card details as well. Any suggestions? [7:40pm] linuxninjas left the chat room. (Remote closed the connection) [7:43pm] leifmadsen: sedwards50: www.zoiper.com -- they have created one recently [7:43pm] leifmadsen: http://www.zoiper.com/activex.php [7:44pm] slow__ left the chat room. (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [7:48pm] imchandave: Gizmo supports sending SMS from the client [7:51pm] sedwards50: Zoiper looks interesting. Anybody know where country code +32 is? [7:51pm] McPear left the chat room. (Remote closed the connection) [7:52pm] leifmadsen: Belgium I think [7:52pm] leifmadsen: pretty sure that's where Joachim lives [7:55pm] dcdeadbeat: let's wait till next week for the contest [7:56pm] dcdeadbeat: i keep forgeting to post my app [7:57pm] jasonwert: Does working for e4 eliminate me from consideration? [7:57pm] Zeeek: jasonwert: yes [7:57pm] jasonwert: haha, oh well [7:57pm] mikel-us: one-button fix-everything app... [7:58pm] ricko73: the "FIX IT NOW" button? Is that on a red phone? [7:58pm] aster1sk: Donate the Polycom to the Asteristickies project! [7:58pm] mikel-us: nuke now [7:58pm] dcdeadbeat: i could go for winning a [7:58pm] dcdeadbeat: SNOM 820 [7:59pm] mikel-us: sounds like the OZ flying monkeys [7:59pm] aster1sk: tt-monkeys !! [7:59pm] e4voip: I have a few other things I am looking to promote through giveaway... [8:00pm] dcdeadbeat: i will post my app this weekend [8:00pm] aster1sk: http://geekhut.org/asterisk-stickies/ [8:00pm] e4voip: I have been working over a few manfacts for freebies... [8:02pm] mikel-us: i'm accepting paypal donations ;o) [8:02pm] e4voip: that reminds me... I need to make some $$$ today- And I need to get the others here @e4 working - That means you JASON! LOL [8:02pm] ricko73: e4voip: our sushi is here [8:02pm] dcdeadbeat: you don't need a business model. the US gov will bail you out [8:02pm] e4voip: looking for a bailout [8:03pm] ricko73: dcdeadbeat <<-- lobbist? [8:03pm] mikel-us: bill the bankstas.... they got all my money. [8:03pm] dcdeadbeat: no way...i have a mortgage to pay and lobbyist clients don't have a good record of paying me these days [8:04pm] dcdeadbeat: i am for profit [8:05pm] imchandave: I would pay for a DID. [8:06pm] imchandave: I would not want to pay for inbound calls if they are being handed off to me via SIP/RTP. [8:06pm] imchandave: I would pay for outbound to PSTN. [8:06pm] imchandave: As a matter of fact, I do that right now. [8:09pm] dcdeadbeat: i would pay for ZipDX because their product is high quality but I would not pay for TalkShoe [8:09pm] aster1sk: I would prefer a reliable global e164 service. [8:10pm] dcdeadbeat: they subsidize it with 20 cent a minute text messages [8:11pm] Zeeek: Talkshoe SIP is baaaaaack [8:11pm] e4voip: not a fan of the IP 650 back light http://twitpic.com/2rsky [8:11pm] e4voip: its blue.... [8:12pm] e4voip: mmmm all you can eat [8:12pm] dcdeadbeat: the 450 is white [8:12pm] ricko73: my 650 isn't blue [8:12pm] e4voip: yes... meant to type 670 [8:12pm] ricko73: adjust your contrast down [8:12pm] e4voip: IP 670 [8:13pm] ricko73: ah, I can't speak for the 670. Don't have one [8:13pm] wolrah: yea, the 670's screen is a disappointment [8:13pm] e4voip: the color backlight is blue and at an angle it is rubbish [8:13pm] wolrah: I have one at home and hate it [8:14pm] wolrah: but it's the only way I can have gigabit passthrough and a sidecar slot for testing [8:14pm] wolrah: i like my 650 in the office more [8:14pm] imchandave: Switched back to talkshoe...free up the bandwidth I was using from zipdx. [8:14pm] wolrah: need a "660" that's the standard greyscale screen with gigabit [8:14pm] algorithmn joined the chat room. [8:15pm] dcdeadbeat: gotta go for today. that whole job thing is calling [8:16pm] Zeeek: k [8:17pm] aster1sk: pass the rum? [8:18pm] Zeeek: no rum yet [8:18pm] ricko73: vino? [8:18pm] Zeeek: no [8:18pm] e4voip: not me... just for the record [8:18pm] algorithmn: you guys kill me.. its 2pm here!! [8:19pm] ricko73: too many michaels [8:19pm] wolrah: so? [8:19pm] aster1sk: Here too. [8:19pm] Zeeek: 2pm is ok to drink [8:19pm] Zeeek: it's friday [8:19pm] aster1sk: If I didn't have to drive this afternoon I would have been into the juice. [8:19pm] algorithmn: not after last night [8:19pm] e4voip: you can drink anything after 2PM - [8:19pm] ricko73: I need more food in me before drinking [8:19pm] Zeeek: no driving! [8:19pm] imchandave: or 2am. [8:19pm] aster1sk: It's noon somewhere... [8:19pm] algorithmn: the only reasy why i didn't have a hangover is cause i was still drunk [8:19pm] wolrah: afternoon is my rule, only exception is if pizza is breakfast [8:19pm] Zeeek: hzhzh [8:19pm] wolrah: if pizza is breakfast, beer may be consumed immediately [8:20pm] Zeeek: heh [8:20pm] algorithmn: nice [8:20pm] wolrah: hard liquor still waits until afternoon [8:20pm] aster1sk: Beer is OK any time. [8:20pm] algorithmn: there are some times though * [8:20pm] algorithmn: just gotta put down the juice [8:20pm] e4voip: bloody mary- Breakfast [8:20pm] aster1sk: It is the nectar of the nitwit. [8:21pm] aster1sk: - Comic Book Guy [8:21pm] ricko73: bloody mary, sushi and wings [8:21pm] ricko73: what else is there? [8:21pm] dcdeadbeat left the chat room. [8:23pm] algorithmn: not much! [8:23pm] e4voip: Why does Randulo sound so much better than everyone else talking... [8:24pm] Zeeek: poly [8:24pm] ricko73: is he on wideband? [8:24pm] imchandave: He's on the wideband bridge. [8:24pm] Zeeek: e4voip: you're not on zipdx? [8:24pm] e4voip: I am [8:28pm] algorithmn: the exchange rate was not equal... i thought it was soros and not buffet [8:28pm] algorithmn: soros also hit malaysia with a similar trick [8:30pm] leifmadsen: I must admit the quality of this conference bridge has gone up significantly since the last time I listened in a few weeks ago. [8:30pm] leifmadsen: and by quality, I mean the quality of people I am listening to who are speaking. [8:36pm] algorithmn: let me know if anyone wants to discuss IAX DoS 0Days and how they are not getting fixed. [8:37pm] tmpor left the chat room. [8:41pm] algorithmn left the chat room. [8:44pm] J-MN: I hate to go. Is this part being recorded and made available later? [8:44pm] Zeeek: yes [8:45pm] J-MN: Thanks, bye. [8:45pm] J-MN left the chat room. [8:49pm] leifmadsen: I think the problem is if you can't roll a new service out across the board, then you tend to get the "haves" and "have-nots" [8:50pm] leifmadsen: and the "have-nots" then get further behind everyone else, just like the education of people who have no access to internet have a lower level of education [8:50pm] leifmadsen: potentially [8:52pm] e4voip: if anyone has a few mins to waste i'd like to take a few calls in HD on my server... PING [8:52pm] imchandave: Just lost audio again....on the talkshoe bridge. [8:53pm] leifmadsen: same [8:53pm] ricko73: e4voip: PONG [8:53pm] DFrankel: What does "take a few calls in HD on my server" mean? [8:53pm] e4voip: meant make a call to [8:54pm] JimD left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [8:54pm] sedwards50 left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [8:54pm] e4voip: not a product... dont worry - [8:54pm] Zeeek: great everyone, thanks [8:54pm] e4voip: Thanks!!!!! [8:54pm] DFrankel: I'm happy to help; just not sure precisely what you want to do. [8:54pm] e4voip: call via sip uri [8:55pm] e4voip: changing to something less offensive - one min [8:55pm] leifmadsen left the chat room. ("Peas out!") [8:56pm] jameswf: I should produce my new script compiled and see how much crap I get [8:56pm] e4voip: 987@e4voip.net [8:57pm] e4voip: PIN 11111 [8:58pm] DFrankel: I don't hear anything when I dial that URI. [8:58pm] DFrankel: Is it supposed to work through NAT? [8:59pm] e4voip: should be working... One other here [9:00pm] e4voip: Try again... [9:00pm] DFrankel: OK, it connected and I heard asterisk ask for my name. [9:01pm] DFrankel: I guess its trying to play music to me. [9:01pm] DFrankel: Now it hung up on me. [9:02pm] e4voip: i closed it accidentially and I have it set to hang when I leave.. Sorry - Pain [9:02pm] e4voip: try one last time.. [9:04pm] nfusillo joined the chat room. [9:04pm] imchandave left the chat room. ("Leaving.") [9:05pm] Zeeek: Night all!