[6:00pm] RypPn: stopped now the guy on the plantronics headset turned down
[6:00pm] MicroChip32: RypPn thats zeeek aka randy
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[6:00pm] unixdawg: hey kids
[6:00pm] AndyML: i'm here
[6:00pm] unixdawg: whats going on
[6:00pm] jameswf: shutup everyone richard is here
[6:00pm] ricko73: unixdawg yo yo yo
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[6:01pm] • unixdawg is in the hospital with a broken ankle
[6:01pm] unixdawg: at least I have wifi here
[6:01pm] MicroChip32: too much dancing ?
[6:01pm] ricko73: e4 voip is representing.  welcome jasonwert
[6:01pm] DaveM_in_CO: more news?
[6:01pm] jasonwert: Hello all!
[6:01pm] unixdawg: no I steped off the curb wrong my ankle folded
[6:01pm] MicroChip32: ugh, been there, done that ... survived better tho
[6:01pm] ricko73: unixdawg <-- epic fail
[6:02pm] unixdawg: I hope to go home monday
[6:02pm] unixdawg: I had a bloodclot they where worried about
[6:02pm] unixdawg: epic ?
[6:02pm] unixdawg: thanks
[6:02pm] ricko73: that's more serious than the piggy flu.  Hope it all works out for you
[6:03pm] jameswf: unixdawg: I did that a moth ago got off with a major sprain
[6:03pm] unixdawg: they got the clot but they have me on blood thiners and I coome off them tomorrow
[6:03pm] unixdawg: and then they want to see if it all is ok atleast they did not have to go in and bracket the ankle
[6:04pm] unixdawg: just a walking boot
[6:04pm] unixdawg: with a aircast built in
[6:04pm] ricko73: MicroChip32: you sound very scratchy
[6:04pm] RypPn: rich, call me on the fs extension, I should be able to transfer you over
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[6:05pm] unixdawg: i dont have y head set.
[6:05pm] RypPn: k
[6:05pm] unixdawg: II had a setback this am with the breakk it swelled up so I am sitting here
[6:05pm] unixdawg: they will keep me till monday it looks like
[6:06pm] unixdawg: I have the laptop but left the headset at the apt
[6:07pm] DFrankel: As a pilot and owner of a single-engine airplane, I can tell you there's nothing wrong with flying on one engine.
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[6:09pm] mjgraves: DFrankel except when your aircraft was designed to fly on two
[6:09pm] mjgraves: then you may find one wanting
[6:10pm] davevg: they are very proactive in telling you when they have problems too
[6:10pm] jasonwert: The website was down for me
[6:11pm] jameswf: quick domain trolls
[6:13pm] jameswf: the longest channel on freenode
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[6:13pm] Shidan_: hello
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[6:15pm] Zeeek: hi Shidan_
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[6:16pm] J-MN: doorbellfon.com is pretty cheap for two doors and can control electronics.
[6:17pm] DaveM_in_CO: waiting for gigaset seems to be a recurring theme.
[6:18pm] Zeeek: heh
[6:18pm] Zeeek: big company
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[6:20pm] Zeeek: solar powere, obviously!
[6:20pm] DaveM_in_CO: i used doorbellfon at my home.
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[6:20pm] TonyNoOne: Ditto, Dave. I also use a DoorFon...
[6:21pm] DaveM_in_CO: it only needs cat5
[6:21pm] TonyNoOne: I've also tied it into lighting control to blink some lights when someone is at the door.
[6:21pm] dlewis: have you guys looked into LinuxMCE
[6:21pm] dlewis:        http://www.linuxmce.org    
[6:21pm] dlewis: does a great job with asterisk and home automation integration.
[6:22pm] Zeeek: TonyNoOne: big welcome to the conference!
[6:22pm] Zeeek: Zigbee mentioned in Talkshoe?
[6:23pm] Zeeek: Anyone know Zigbee?
[6:23pm] dlewis: is there a PSTN for this conference?
[6:23pm] mjgraves: siemens Dect doorfone http://www.cordless-phones.uk.com/blog/ligo/info/siemens-gigaset-hc450-intercom.htm
[6:23pm] Zeeek: dlewis:
[6:24pm] Zeeek: 1 (801) 6620092
[6:24pm] dlewis: thanks
[6:24pm] DaveM_in_CO: there is some snow on the line
[6:24pm] ricko73: self-mute yourself if you're not talking
[6:24pm] ricko73: (either on your phone or by pressing *6)
[6:25pm] jameswf: Im on mute I have a voice made for scaring small children
[6:25pm] RypPn: lol
[6:25pm] mjgraves: heres the mfgrs link http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_134353_rArNrNrNrN,00.html
[6:25pm] ricko73: thank you!
[6:25pm] ricko73: (for the mutage)
[6:26pm] Zeeek: Someone is HUMming
[6:26pm] ricko73:        http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model_VIP-172L-VR.htm?pid=1000&utm_source=fgl&utm_medium=prodlist&utm_term=VIP-172L-VR    
[6:26pm] MicroChip32: james : should we hire you to make audio clips for halloween ?? 
[6:26pm] ricko73: I'm using the Valcom VIP 172L at a client for a door phone
[6:26pm] ricko73: SIP capable phone that is pretty easy to work with
[6:26pm] Zeeek: Tony typoe in your web site URL  or contact info for anyone who'd like to contact you
[6:27pm] dlewis: ricko73: I've heard good things about the Valcom stuff... Expensive though
[6:27pm] _3vian: yes - around $500 for the VIP 172 series
[6:28pm] dlewis: yup
[6:28pm] ricko73: dlewis: may be expensive, but the stuff works and is pretty solid
[6:29pm] dlewis: ricko73: can't argue that it works well...
[6:29pm] DaveM_in_CO: i recommend HAI - homeauto.com i sue it for lighting, tstats, security, and irrigation
[6:29pm] Zeeek: guest10 in Talkshoe says there are laws about having sensor & camera to protect children getting hurt from auto closing gates
[6:29pm] DaveM_in_CO: use it, not sue it.
[6:29pm] dlewis: Valcom has been the best i've seen for simple integration
[6:29pm] dlewis: DaveM_in_CO: yup, HAI or Elk are the two I would choose....
[6:29pm] ricko73: Leviton supports Z-wave
[6:30pm] dlewis: for you guys, if you haven't done so already, http://www.cocoontech.com is a great site for home automation
[6:30pm] MicroChip32: the base x10 protocols are wacky to start with
[6:30pm] Zeeek: We need to mention the web IRC interface: http://tr.im/vucirc
[6:31pm] TonyNoOne: tonynoone.blogspot.com/
[6:31pm] dlewis: the engineers and developers for HAI and Elk are all apart of http://www.cocoontech.com
[6:31pm] TonyNoOne: or zottianthony@gmail.com
[6:31pm] dlewis: and regularly post and provide support
[6:31pm] Zeeek: TonyNoOne: thanks
[6:31pm] TonyNoOne: No sweat...
[6:32pm] Zeeek: We will be publishing all thses links: http://delicious.com/voipusersconference
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[6:32pm] Zeeek: welcome Megafied
[6:33pm] dlewis: Zeeek: would be good to discuss or have a discussion on LinuxMCE ... The leader in open source home automation.
[6:33pm] Zeeek: any time!
[6:34pm] mjgraves:        http://www.electronichouse.com/article/review_mi_casa_verde_vera_z_wave_automation_system/    
[6:34pm] Zeeek: had to mute someone on TS sorry, noise
[6:35pm] MicroChip32: for those doing diy stuff and know some programming (or know someone who does) netburner and parallax (among others) have a variety of embeded modules with which you could connect just about anything to a network where it could be controlled via asterisk scripts
[6:35pm] Zeeek: brb in 1m
[6:35pm] dlewis: mjgraves: mi casa verde is a spin-off of linuxmce
[6:36pm] kfife: He should be able to see the kids are up, and then press a button to automatically begin blowig the sleeping gas into the kids' bedrooms
[6:36pm] TonyNoOne: MicroChip32 is correct. I have also been interfacing Arduino's extensively...
[6:36pm] MicroChip32: TonyNoOne : i wish i had the money to play with those modules, have lots of ideas, no money 
[6:37pm] mjgraves: kfife modified car nitrous kit?
[6:37pm] MicroChip32: TonyNoOne : yea i just heard about the arduino stuff a few days ago, havent looked at it much yet
[6:38pm] TonyNoOne: Try MaxSerial from Fundamental Logic.
[6:39pm] Zeeek: 12 g722, 16 g711, 3 anonymous streamers and 7 TS stream clients
[6:39pm] kfife: mjgraves:  that would arouse them even more 
[6:39pm] MicroChip32: i think i like the netburner processors, but i love the array of parallax add on modules
[6:39pm] kfife: mjgraves: What's that laughing in there!!
[6:39pm] mjgraves: kfife only modeification is the actual gas in question
[6:40pm] kfife: A buddy of mine in Alaska has a plane.  When his kids in the back are getting roudy, he climbs over 10000' and they all fall asleep.  True story.
[6:40pm] Megafied: I use my cell phone and gps system to open up my front gate via * and a geozone!
[6:40pm] Zeeek: Megafied: are you called in?
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[6:40pm] Megafied: can't on another call at the same time! 
[6:41pm] jameswf: mike figured out the use of mute/unmute 
[6:41pm] Zeeek: hahahaha
[6:41pm] dlewis: x10 is awful
[6:41pm] dlewis: hmm
[6:42pm] dlewis: i highly disagree
[6:42pm] jameswf: time for us to enter a new market... linux based home automation...
[6:42pm] jameswf: x10 made durring the dot net boom
[6:43pm] DaveM_in_CO: x10  is much older than that
[6:43pm] dlewis: before we talk about Linux-based...
[6:43pm] dlewis: please look at this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2176025602905109829&hl=en
[6:43pm] jameswf: I remember x10 spam everywhere you now see "free Ipod"
[6:43pm] dlewis: Zeeek: exactly... all linux stuff
[6:43pm] Zeeek: let's face it only Windows is reliable!
[6:43pm] jameswf: Zeeek: I use doors...
[6:43pm] Zeeek: The Doors?
[6:44pm] jameswf: Zeeek: Microsoft said it in a world without walls who needs windows.
[6:44pm] dlewis: this will show how reliable Linux is with Home Automation: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2176025602905109829&hl=en
[6:44pm] Zeeek: The Jim Morrison Interface™
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[6:45pm] Zeeek:        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DExTCMRJcdU    
[6:45pm] Zeeek: ^^^^^How to Install Asterisk.... NOT ^^^^^^
[6:45pm] DaveM_in_CO: avoid russound home audio
[6:45pm] J-MN: Zeek: Linked to Pere Lachaise in Paris?
[6:46pm] Zeeek: exactly
[6:46pm] DFrankel: Is Andy Aastra still around?
[6:47pm] Zeeek: dont see him
[6:47pm] Zeeek: DFrankel: you were skulking around in the back room?
[6:48pm] mjgraves: was that really an Aastra in wideband?
[6:48pm] DFrankel: Yes, it appears that we've had two Aastras connect in wideband.
[6:49pm] DFrankel: New firmware seems to support MANY codecs.
[6:49pm] DFrankel: Zeek, did you catch me in the secret subconference room?
[6:49pm] Zeeek: Yes, and I recorded it and sent it to the home department
[6:49pm] mjgraves: DFrankel I saw you drift off
[6:50pm] DFrankel: Did you see who I was with?
[6:50pm] Zeeek: one can't say
[6:50pm] mjgraves: no
[6:50pm] DFrankel: Thanks.
[6:50pm] dlewis: linuxmce uses UPnP
[6:51pm] MicroChip32: someone needs to create/design a fully open extensible HA protocol
[6:51pm] dlewis: extensively
[6:51pm] dlewis: MicroChip32: http://www.linuxmce.org
[6:51pm] dlewis:        http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2176025602905109829&hl=en    
[6:51pm] Zeeek: UPnP is "Universal Plung and Pray"?
[6:51pm] Zeeek: yes or no? 
[6:52pm] dlewis: lol
[6:52pm] dlewis: no
[6:52pm] MicroChip32: Zeeek : yes, "pray" 
[6:52pm] Zeeek: Pray is the key
[6:52pm] MicroChip32: credits to SG 
[6:52pm] TonyNoOne: UPnP is Universal Piss Me Off.
[6:53pm] MicroChip32: TonyNoOne : that too
[6:53pm] TonyNoOne: I know the acronym doesn't work but...
[6:53pm] mjgraves: DNLA
[6:53pm] Zeeek: Everyone here who has blogs or posts or whatever; please post them here. I'll put them in our bookmarks
[6:53pm] MicroChip32: universal pull no punches ?
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[6:53pm] Zeeek: Or, send them to us
[6:53pm] Zeeek: delicious.com/voipusersconference
[6:54pm] beek: This from the state that won't even let you pump your own gasoline...
[6:54pm] Zeeek: haha
[6:55pm] DaveM_in_CO: Cool HA App: My sprinklers water more when it gets really hot.
[6:55pm] kfife: in Chicago, the fu#@ing city won't let me put alligators in the moat around my house. Bastards!
[6:55pm] Zeeek: get Allison to describe the situation
[6:55pm] Megafied: NJ allows alligators, u should move!
[6:55pm] MicroChip32: kfife use pahrena (sp) instead
[6:55pm] DaveM_in_CO: Cool HA App: Running Hot Water Recirc based on motion
[6:55pm] kfife: good idea.
[6:56pm] kfife: Actually it IS the Jetson's age http://www.moller.com/
[6:56pm] dlewis: DaveM_in_CO: sprinkler example with LinuxMCE: http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=2566.0
[6:57pm] ricko73: 40 minute outage
[6:57pm] kfife: kill-a-watt
[6:57pm] ricko73: wattsup.com?
[6:57pm] MicroChip32: moller has been around for a couple decades, with a working flying car, yet someone else, last year i think, got official credit for first flying car
[6:57pm] dlewis: yes, there currently is energy monitors
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[6:58pm] dlewis: TED is one of the leaders...
[6:58pm] dlewis:        http://www.theenergydetective.com/index.html    
[6:58pm] ricko73:        https://www.wattsupmeters.com/secure/index.php    
[6:58pm] Zeeek: ate a fruit ?
[6:58pm] ricko73: whoops wrong link before
[6:59pm] Megafied: Geen is Mean!  the $$$ in the carbon exchange
[6:59pm] dlewis: TED is a leader in doing it yourself
[6:59pm] ricko73:        https://www.wattsupmeters.com/secure/products.php?pn=0&wai=399&comp=4    
[7:00pm] ricko73: One of my clients is a "green certified" engineering firm which has worked on projects as large as football stadiums
[7:00pm] dlewis: HAI is good for a HA thermostat as well
[7:00pm] DaveM_in_CO: Cool HA App: Turn Down all Tstats for x days or minutes.
[7:00pm] TonyNoOne: HAI makes, arguably, THE best communicating thermostat.
[7:01pm] ricko73: TonyNoOne: thanks for all of the information
[7:01pm] MicroChip32: use gps tracking to know that youre coming home before you get to the driveway, so have time to cool/warm the house
[7:02pm] dlewis: MicroChip32: easily done also with HAI and GPS integration... Also can be done with linuxmce
[7:02pm] DaveM_in_CO: what if you are just driving near by
[7:02pm] MicroChip32: dlewis : lots of ways to do gps tracking, and yea driving nearby could be an issue. would depend on where you live
[7:02pm] dlewis: DaveM_in_CO: make the proximity closer
[7:03pm] DaveM_in_CO: i had to explain to my son why I could not pause live tv when we were at a different tv. he thought i was joking.
[7:04pm] mjgraves: wow already burned the hour
[7:04pm] DaveM_in_CO: we consumed an hour - not burned. we are green today.
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[7:05pm] Megafied: get a better gps antenna to c more satellites
[7:06pm] ricko73: piggy hotline may need to be post-call
[7:06pm] MicroChip32: if youre in amateur radio, the easy gps solution is aprs. unfortunately only useable by amateur radio people
[7:06pm] Shidan_:        http://violet.net    
[7:10pm] Megafied: what about smart card technology?
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[7:14pm] ricko73: METED
[7:14pm] ricko73: ME-TED
[7:14pm] ricko73: MEAT HEAD?
[7:14pm] TonyNoOne: Thanks, All!
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[7:16pm] ricko73: Logitech "wife happy" remotes
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[7:23pm] Zeeek:        http://delicious.com/voipusersconference    
[7:23pm] Zeeek: for the links mentioned
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[7:25pm] Shidan_:        http://www.avaak.com/    
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[7:26pm] Zeeek: Shidan_:  got it
[7:26pm] JohnKiniston: Vocera looks cool but really expensive. I remember watching the videos they came out with years ago.
[7:27pm] Zeeek: where is vocera?
[7:28pm] mjgraves:        http://www.vocera.com/    
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[7:30pm] DaveM_in_CO: spinvox.com does computer and human speech recog
[7:32pm] DaveM_in_CO: kirk out
[7:33pm] Zeeek: kirk is now polycom 
[7:33pm] ricko73: "number 1, go take a number 2"
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[7:35pm] Zeeek: what wine with home automation?
[7:35pm] Zeeek: $20,000 ??????
[7:36pm] Zeeek: fagettabadit!
[7:36pm] Zeeek: what about the controllers model airplane/boat geeks use?
[7:37pm] Zeeek: Can't they control electricity?
[7:38pm] ricko73: jameswf: you still on the call?
[7:38pm] Shidan_: bye guys thanks for the interesting talk
[7:38pm] ricko73: bye Shidan_
[7:38pm] Zeeek: Shidan_:  thx
[7:38pm] ricko73: thanks for joining us
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[7:39pm] J-MN: Did TonyNoOne leave contact info?
[7:42pm] J-MN: Coordless Adanced Technology - Internet and Quality  CAT-iq
[7:43pm] J-MN: Have you EVER seen the wireing quality in France?  I'm amazed the whole country hasn't burned up/down.
[7:46pm] Zeeek: J-MN yes
[7:46pm] Zeeek:        zottianthony@gmail.com    
[7:47pm] Zeeek: I don't speak for everyone, but personally, I don't mind what the topic is, VOIP-related or not, as long as number of us are interested in it
[7:47pm] J-MN: Zeek- Thanks!
[7:48pm] Zeeek: I would assume the newer construcions use good wiring, but I've lived in places built 100's of years ago
[7:48pm] Zeeek: A lot of wacky stuff out there, that's for sure
[7:49pm] Zeeek: I'm listening in stereo via both Siemens and eyebeam. Almost no differenc ein lag
[7:49pm] Zeeek: probably less than 5ms
[7:49pm] Zeeek: difference
[7:49pm] Zeeek: oh! scandalised!
[7:49pm] Zeeek: hey
[7:50pm] Zeeek: this isan adult show
[7:50pm] DFrankel7: Dosn't Karl know kids could be present?
[7:50pm] J-MN: Go Karl Go!
[7:50pm] Zeeek: I can't imagine why, on the other hand 
[7:50pm] beek: It's part of the Karl Fife experience...
[7:51pm] Zeeek: anyone care if I shut off Talkshoe
[7:51pm] ricko73: I'm not on TS so I don't care
[7:53pm] beek: Is there anyone still on it?
[7:54pm] DFrankel7: Latency? In my bridge??
[7:55pm] Zeeek: ready for a demo?
[7:56pm] Zeeek: 7 callers on ts
[7:58pm] Zeeek: too geeky for me
[7:58pm] J-MN: http://tonynoone.blogspot.com for more info from Tony
[7:59pm] Zeeek: cool
[8:00pm] ricko73:        http://www.djhsolutions.com/images/karl.jpg    
[8:01pm] kfife: ricko73: perfect! 
[8:06pm] DFrankel7: I know all about Deutschland from Hogan's Heros.
[8:07pm] Zeeek: heh
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[8:08pm] ricko73:        http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9209    
[8:08pm] ricko73:        http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/21348    
[8:14pm] beek: Gotta run guys -- time to head to the Allentown PA Pinball show!
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[8:38pm] ricko73:        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0cgQkT4ScQ&feature=related    
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[8:46pm] ricko73:        http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate    
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[8:52pm] Zeeek: gotta run folks, thanks everyone