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[6:07pm] Ottone: advice of charge [6:07pm] Ottone: tells you how much your current phone call actually costs [6:07pm] imchandave: is someone making popcorn in the background? [6:07pm] Zeeek: not hearing it [6:07pm] imchandave: crackling earlier...gone now. [6:08pm] alrs: sounds good over zipdx here [6:08pm] Zeeek: AOC in France: Appelation Origine Controllée [6:08pm] Zeeek: Lars been a long time [6:08pm] alrs: yeah, a lot has happened [6:08pm] jtodd: AOC: Advice Of Charge [6:10pm] J-MN joined the chat room. [6:11pm] leifmadsen: Jim! [6:11pm] leifmadsen: no no [6:12pm] DaveM_in_CO joined the chat room. [6:12pm] leifmadsen: lol [6:12pm] jtodd: Leif gets excited. [6:12pm] _3vian joined the chat room. [6:12pm] leifmadsen: it'll happen [6:12pm] DaveM_in_CO: files are with the missing white house tapes [6:12pm] ricko73: way to go Zeeek [6:12pm] leifmadsen: Florell [6:12pm] jtodd: Matt Florell. Yes. [6:12pm] Ottone: Matt Florel [6:13pm] Ottone: ll [6:13pm] jtodd: You bought the wrong recorder. [6:13pm] Ottone: slow typer me [6:13pm] beek: The recorders use write-only memory. [6:13pm] DaveM_in_CO: no one else recorded it? [6:13pm] Jacke: Randy: use redundancy Run two recorders in parallel on all times [6:13pm] DaveM_in_CO: learn short hand. [6:13pm] imchandave: then you can stereo as well ... [6:14pm] Ottone: ASR is the solution to it all [6:14pm] leifmadsen: speaking of recordings, I have some video files I need to compress and edit on OSX [6:14pm] jtodd: SIP works for me. [6:14pm] DaveM_in_CO: how do i get a SIP URI for my phone? [6:14pm] jtodd: DaveM: What kind of phone? [6:15pm] DaveM_in_CO: poly/switchvox [6:15pm] Jacke: Randy: I was on Amoocon, the SS7 guy from poland, but my connection im on UMTS right now so my connection is a bit unstable [6:16pm] Zeeek: Jacke: hello and welcome [6:16pm] dcdeadbeat: your sip uri is usually extension@ipaddressofthebox [6:16pm] jtodd: As much as I am an advocate of VoIP and these calls for meeting people, the conferences are still really great. [6:16pm] jtodd: Echo craziness. [6:17pm] jtodd: Headset! [6:17pm] outtolunc joined the chat room. [6:17pm] skymarshal joined the chat room. [6:17pm] Jacke: yeah, UMTS as i said, sorry [6:17pm] DaveM_in_CO: yes, but SV does not support SIP URI -so can I map a URI directly to the phone? [6:17pm] skymarshal: [6:17pm] skymarshal: It'll take some more time. They'll be posted at http://www.amoocon.de [6:18pm] Ottone: tell it, tell it now [6:18pm] JohnKiniston joined the chat room. [6:19pm] Jacke: jtodd: It really is. It was really nice to see all the people you know from e-mail addresses [6:19pm] Jacke: Zeeek: It does, you just don't know it [6:19pm] skymarshal: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lenzgr/sets/72157617591055723/ [6:20pm] da__d00d joined the chat room. [6:20pm] Zeeek: skymarshal: is Stefan ! [6:20pm] skymarshal: yes! [6:21pm] carrar: I need 30 seconds [6:21pm] carrar: sorry [6:21pm] Zeeek: carrar: ? Why sorry? [6:21pm] carrar: I'm joking, sorry [6:21pm] ricko73: I could use a few days [6:22pm] dcdeadbeat: DaveM_inCO: have you tried extension@ip_address_of_SV, alternatively you can register with a proxy and then it is account_number@proxyserver [6:22pm] carrar: (in relation to the amazon load time) [6:22pm] Zeeek: Jacke: I'm sorry you are muted, your connection is noisy AND you have echo [6:22pm] Zeeek: carrar: ahhhh, now I get it [6:22pm] • carrar shuts up [6:22pm] Jacke: Zeeek: As i mentioned, i'm on fleaky UMTS, so i'll better stay in the read-only mode audiwise [6:23pm] Zeeek: ok [6:23pm] Zeeek: glad to see you here though Jacke [6:23pm] ariel_ left the chat room. [6:23pm] jtodd: http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls [6:24pm] Jacke: Zeeek: Glad to be here [6:24pm] DaveM_in_CO: what is the best way to measure the cost of electricty on servers? [6:24pm] dlewis: POTS? [6:25pm] Zeeek: (724) 444-7444 22622# #1 [6:25pm] Zeeek: oops [6:25pm] ricko73: whoops! [6:25pm] Zeeek: (724) 444-7444 22622# 1# [6:25pm] ricko73: Pushed the wrong button [6:25pm] Zeeek: pr0n-r-us@sex.com [6:25pm] Zeeek: no, that's wrong too [6:26pm] Zeeek: This part was discussed in Nir's presentation: you have no idea of "where" you are [6:26pm] Zeeek: well, you have an idea, but no guarantee to exactly where you are [6:27pm] Zeeek: I thgink the best example is when you need huge capacity suddenly and then can shut the entire thing down a few days (hours) later [6:28pm] DFrankel joined the chat room. [6:28pm] skymarshal: all: I have to leave. I'll use http://twitter.com/AMOOCON to keep you updated with the videos. I'll will take some more days. [6:28pm] skymarshal: Have a great weekend! [6:28pm] DFrankel: I agree...you can argue that performance (latency) will be better in a hosted environment. [6:29pm] DFrankel: No, it's not that long.... [6:29pm] JimCifarelli: I heard that Amazon's EC2 pricing is adding a lower cost for this running instances 24x7 [6:29pm] Ottone: as long as it is below 200 ... [6:29pm] JimCifarelli: below 200 what? [6:29pm] imchandave: thats nothing...I'm at 189ms right now... [6:29pm] DFrankel: Any "additional" latency is bad.... [6:29pm] JimCifarelli: oh ms. [6:30pm] DFrankel: Like he said, you really have to look at the specific situation. [6:30pm] imchandave: yup [6:30pm] Rolfe joined the chat room. [6:30pm] DFrankel: Oregon - CA is ROUND TRIP 30msec [6:31pm] skymarshal left the chat room. ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032608]") [6:31pm] jasonwert joined the chat room. [6:31pm] JimCifarelli: Is Amazon profit sharing with the authors of the instances? i.e. Digium can pick up 2 cents / hour if they offered an EC2 instance. [6:31pm] DFrankel: Definitely latency is evil.... [6:32pm] DFrankel: The worst contributor to latency in VoIP is packetization delay... [6:32pm] DFrankel: and I think Karl's point is that if you go back and forth (circuit <> packet) then you can really add up the delays [6:32pm] DFrankel: And they come in chunks (20 msec per transition) [6:33pm] DFrankel: John is quoting ROUND TRIP times, right? [6:33pm] Jacke: i'd guess so. [6:34pm] ricko73: didn't take us long to get side tracked this week [6:34pm] ricko73: hehe [6:34pm] Jacke: jtodd: You're basing your numbers on the ping output? [6:34pm] alrs: it's entirely possible that your VOIP termination provider specializes in sucking [6:34pm] Ottone: hm... some more amoocon info? [6:34pm] Zeeek: Ottone: what would you like to hear? [6:34pm] DFrankel: The delay isn't really on the PLAY OUT side...it is only on the IN side, where the packets have to be collected before transmission. [6:35pm] Ottone: Gossip of course [6:35pm] DFrankel: On the PLAY OUT side, you have a contribution from a jitter buffer, which can vary in size (delay). [6:35pm] Zeeek: Ottone: oh, you mean Diana? [6:35pm] Ottone: Keep going [6:35pm] Ottone: How about the US-Europe divide in terms of Asterisk? [6:36pm] Zeeek: Ottone: that is a good question for John Todd [6:37pm] imchandave: wasn't there a discussion about using RTCP info on the Asterisk Users list? [6:37pm] jtodd: Jacke: yes, on ICMP. [6:38pm] Zeeek: DFrankel: it's happening, we have as many on ZipDX now as on TS. [6:38pm] Rolfe left the chat room. (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [6:38pm] Jacke: jtodd: so you probably should slash it by half, als ping reports RTT? [6:38pm] jtodd: Dfrankel: yes, I'm quoting ICMP round trip, so I suppose I should have divided by 2. [6:38pm] Ottone: Then I also wonder what people think of these Siemens OpenStage things - I hardly read anyone using or testing them... [6:38pm] Zeeek: Ottone: I liked the new exec phone a lot [6:38pm] leifmadsen: lunch! [6:38pm] Zeeek: NOOOOOOOO [6:38pm] imchandave: Randy, you are skewing the data by being on twice on the wideband [6:38pm] Zeeek: yes [6:39pm] Zeeek: needed to say *almost* the same numùber [6:39pm] imchandave: I'm loving my siemen's phone [6:39pm] dcdeadbeat: DFrankel: your servers are in San Jose? The latency here from DC is really low for me traveling over a Level3 connection. [6:39pm] • ricko73 just fixed the hookset problem with my Aastra 480i! [6:39pm] Ottone: A German emporer clan "Otto I to III" [6:39pm] Rolfe joined the chat room. [6:40pm] Ottone: maybe too spacey design? [6:40pm] DFrankel: Today's call is hosted in San Jose. We also have servers in Miami. [6:40pm] imchandave: should have said HDSP [6:41pm] imchandave: probably didn't know the ITU name for their "market speak" [6:41pm] imchandave: sjc109.zipdx.com [6:42pm] DFrankel: We don't like to say that San Jose is normal and Miami isn't. [6:42pm] DFrankel: Both facilities run all the time. [6:42pm] Jacke: Zeeek: http://wiki.siemens-enterprise.com/index.php/OpenStage_SIP, thats the homepage for the SIemens phones showed on the flor. [6:42pm] DFrankel: But I have lower latency to San Jose! [6:42pm] imchandave: Thanks DFrankel...SJ is much closer to me than FL. [6:44pm] alrs: Polycom would have to screw up pretty badly at this point for my eye to wander [6:44pm] Ottone: OpenStage has g722 [6:44pm] maximCH: open bar??? [6:44pm] jtodd: Excellent. [6:44pm] Ottone: no, for sure not [6:44pm] Ottone: haha [6:44pm] Rolfe left the chat room. (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [6:44pm] DFrankel: I'm off to another meeting -- happy widebanding and have a nice weekend! [6:44pm] Ottone: no affiliation with Siemens at all - i wasn't at Amoocon [6:44pm] DFrankel left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [6:45pm] Ottone: just looked it up because I was curious [6:45pm] Ottone: Frankly, I'd be afraid to deploy these, they look too revolutionary, somehow [6:45pm] Jacke: yeah, there's one drawback to the siemens phones - they are HUGE, they take like half of your deskspace [6:45pm] wolrah: alrs: +1 to that, even with their quirks Polycom has my preference by a wide margin at the moment, though I still look elsewhere all the time to fill the gaps where PLCM lacks [6:46pm] Rolfe joined the chat room. [6:47pm] dcdeadbeat: Zeeek: are you talking about Avaya? [6:47pm] jtodd: Siemens. [6:47pm] securevoip joined the chat room. [6:47pm] Zeeek: Siemens Enterprise [6:47pm] Zeeek: hello securevoip [6:47pm] securevoip: can you post URL to phone picture again please? [6:47pm] Ottone: You need to ask OPEN questions [6:47pm] imchandave: that's why there's cordless phonesets [6:48pm] Zeeek: http://wiki.siemens-enterprise.com/index.php/OpenStage_SIP [6:48pm] Ottone: BT sucks, DECT is the only way for wirless headsets [6:48pm] Ottone: sure [6:48pm] Jacke: yeah [6:49pm] DaveM_in_CO: dect is the way to go for headsets and phones. [6:49pm] Jacke: siemens has them [6:49pm] Zeeek: again, siemens? [6:49pm] securevoip: GN9120 is an example of DECT headset. [6:49pm] Zeeek: They made out thermostat o,n the heater here, too! [6:49pm] Zeeek: retyping, [6:49pm] ricko73: http://www.amazon.com/AT-91083-Detangler-Corded-Telephone/dp/B00006HO48/ref=pd_sbs_op_2 [6:49pm] Zeeek: They made our thermostat on the heater here, too! [6:49pm] Ottone: dunno, jabra and GN have 'em [6:50pm] Jacke: Well, Siemens it says on my washingm achine, so go figure;-) [6:50pm] Jacke: machine of course My keyboard needs cleaning [6:50pm] Zeeek: I hated our regular Siemens DECT phones, the buttons wore out very fast [6:50pm] DaveM_in_CO: mitel phones have internal dect option for headset - no lifter needed. [6:50pm] Zeeek: wore out [6:51pm] Ottone: yeah, range and battery are much better [6:51pm] Ottone: So how about the strange Europeans (I am one of 'em) as seen from u US boys when it comes to Asterisk, ISDN and SIP? [6:52pm] DaveM_in_CO: what is this 'Europe' you speak of? [6:52pm] Zeeek: haha [6:53pm] Zeeek: he's gone [6:53pm] securevoip: anyone know if this phone is going to support BLF/presence? http://blog.voipsupply.com/iax-phone-contest [6:54pm] Ottone: I feel unpriviliged: Still there is no German (low-cost) ASR vendor that easily connects to Asterisk; they all focus on English & Spanish (the Americas) [6:55pm] Jacke: there are many [6:55pm] Ottone: that was sorted out about 4 years ago in say.c [6:56pm] jasonwert: Sherlock Holmes quote: "It is the German who is so discourtious to his verbs." [6:57pm] jtodd: say.c already has those patches. [6:57pm] ricko73: Zeeek: your wife answered the phone number you gave out [6:58pm] Zeeek: she's in 1004 at thez moment [6:59pm] DaveM_in_CO: any speech to text options for Asterisk? [6:59pm] jtodd: DaveM: depends on what you want. Free-form text, or syntax-driven responses of a limited grammar? [7:00pm] da__d00d: if fax is still around - there's no hope of getting rid of voicemail anytime soon [7:00pm] Zeeek: vax should have died with the last millenium [7:00pm] ricko73: da__d00d: good point [7:00pm] Zeeek: er fax [7:00pm] jtodd: vax did die in the last millenium. [7:00pm] Zeeek: I know! [7:00pm] Jacke: voicemail wasn't and isn't THAT popular in most of the europe as it ever was and still is in the US. [7:00pm] ricko73: fax is still required for certain industries [7:00pm] jtodd: So did DEC. [7:00pm] Zeeek: Too bad I'm pretty familiuar with VAX, VMS [7:00pm] ricko73: plus old people need to retire before fax will die [7:00pm] Zeeek: as well as RT-11 and RMS-11 [7:01pm] Zeeek: I'm trying to retire, damn it! [7:01pm] jtodd: Jacke: yes, I suspect that's why we don't see such significant work in modifying it for languages other than English and a few others. [7:01pm] Jacke: Zeeek: you should write in capslick all the time then [7:01pm] ricko73: Zeeek: I get tired again on a daily basis [7:01pm] Zeeek: lick or lock? [7:02pm] DaveM_in_CO: free form speech into an email on voice mail option. [7:02pm] Jacke: jtodd: That's aswell the reason that you don't have the 'callback' feature as popular in your ISDN network as it's in europe [7:02pm] Jacke: Zeeek: lock, once again, my keyboard tricked me into writing kinky stuff [7:02pm] imchandave: DaveM_in_CO: that's GoogleVoice. [7:02pm] alrs: teh 286 turbo button [7:02pm] dcdeadbeat: i prefer visual voicemail over voice prompts [7:03pm] ricko73: that headset sounded like CRAP [7:03pm] leifmadsen: speaking of headsets, what is a decent, cheap, headset for polycoms? [7:03pm] ricko73: totally night and day [7:03pm] ricko73: define cheap? [7:03pm] DaveM_in_CO: yes, is there a googlevoice vmail like option for asterisk? speech to text. Very nice feature. [7:03pm] leifmadsen: ummm... $50 or less [7:03pm] ricko73: leifmadsen: doesn't exist [7:04pm] leifmadsen: darn, I was hoping they had come down [7:04pm] leifmadsen: this would just be for personal use to get around having to use speaker phone [7:04pm] Zeeek: leifmadsen: in that case, tyou can get one for $15 [7:04pm] ricko73: the gn2020 isn't too bad, but closer to $70-80 when you have all thr right cords [7:05pm] Zeeek: Write me at HongKo,g@ebayfake.com [7:05pm] kd7oup joined the chat room. [7:08pm] securevoip left the chat room. [7:09pm] alrs: where is Rich? Last I talked to him in August he was heading to Florida [7:09pm] kd7oup left the chat room. (Client Quit) [7:09pm] DaveM_in_CO: i want a Wide band HD headset [7:09pm] ricko73: alrs: he's in MN, but last we heard in the hospital [7:09pm] kd7oup-Dave joined the chat room. [7:09pm] ricko73: he mess up something in his ankle or knee [7:09pm] securevoip joined the chat room. [7:10pm] mykhyggz joined the chat room. [7:11pm] ricko73: zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance? [7:11pm] beek: Superb book. [7:12pm] ricko73: interesting. I did not know that re: Xen [7:12pm] jasonwert: VoIP: After Hours [7:13pm] linuxninjas left the chat room. (Remote closed the connection) [7:17pm] kd7oup-Dave left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [7:23pm] jtodd: Bass sushi. [7:25pm] jtodd: hooray! [7:26pm] _3vian left the chat room. [7:26pm] dcdeadbeat left the chat room. [7:27pm] jtodd: That would be pretty nice. [7:28pm] Zeeek: a link to the lib stuff? [7:28pm] Ottone: BTW: Was Tzafir ever on this show? (am back, was on a phone call) [7:29pm] Zeeek: Ottone: yes he was on a few rtimes [7:29pm] Rolfe left the chat room. ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]") [7:29pm] securevoip left the chat room. [7:29pm] Ottone: ok, missed that [7:30pm] ricko73: I haven't seen Tzafir on this call [7:30pm] Zeeek: he has [7:30pm] ricko73: at least not in a while [7:30pm] ricko73: Zeeek: was it 6-9 month ago [7:30pm] Zeeek: ya [7:33pm] jsmith-away is now known as jsmith. [7:33pm] jtodd: can't hear the speaker. [7:38pm] mjgraves joined the chat room. [7:38pm] mjgraves: 'ola [7:39pm] mjgraves: H4 let you down? [7:40pm] mjgraves: ah [7:41pm] mykhyggz left the chat room. [7:42pm] ricko73: diskinternals.com [7:44pm] jtodd: Gotta run, y'all. [7:45pm] jtodd: Have fun with those forensics. [7:47pm] JimCifarelli: See you guys. Have a great week! [7:48pm] Jacke: jtodd: Have fun too, nice hearing to you [7:50pm] JimCifarelli left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [7:53pm] Ottone: Auerswald will sell a VoIP only PBX hardware for Askozia in Q3 2009 [7:53pm] Ottone: Too bad that will be missing the FXO port [7:55pm] maximCH: Open Source forensics: http://os.cqu.edu.au/cosd/?q=taxonomy/term/101 [7:55pm] maximCH: they mention F.I.R.E. on there but the link doesn't seem to work [7:56pm] maximCH: I haven't used it myself either but in one of the recent 'con's someone spoke about it [7:56pm] Ottone: m0n0wall philosophy [7:56pm] Ottone: He's with Fraunhofer [7:58pm] imchandave left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [7:59pm] jtodd left the chat room. ("Leaving") [8:00pm] Ottone: I read that - I think that was about Audi, no? [8:06pm] maximCH: I have the file on my home drive [8:06pm] maximCH: the fire-0.4a.iso that is [8:06pm] ricko73: Ottone: perhaps. He had a nice BMW but traded up to something else [8:06pm] maximCH: try this: http://livedistro.org/gnu/linux/fire-04a [8:07pm] JohnKiniston left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [8:07pm] Ottone: The trouble with YATE is the minimal documentation [8:07pm] ricko73: maximCH: thx that link has a link to the sf.net dl site [8:07pm] maximCH: yep .. that one seems to work [8:08pm] Ottone: Daniel Mierla [8:09pm] _ShrikE joined the chat room. [8:09pm] Jacke: diana is just a channel away (try #yate ;-)) [8:11pm] Jacke: yes [8:11pm] Jacke: l-fy [8:11pm] Jacke: she's l-fy@#yate [8:12pm] imchandave joined the chat room. [8:12pm] Jacke: yate does H.323<->SIP very efficiently [8:13pm] Jacke: something asterisk would have troubles to do with to that extent. [8:13pm] Jacke: version 7 [8:13pm] Jacke: [8:13pm] Jacke: H.323 version 7 [8:13pm] Jacke: it's still widly used. [8:14pm] Jacke: version 7 is still being finalized, but taking into account how long it takes ITU to do things, it's the last stage [8:14pm] Jacke: H.323 is like supereasy to carry DSS1 (ISDN) signaliing, which is essential for carriers. [8:15pm] Jacke: And the videocnferencing was always done in H.323, i mean, from the begining of time [8:15pm] Ottone: NetMeeting [8:15pm] Jacke: Much, much before that, but that's very good consumer example [8:16pm] Jacke: You're pronouncing it quite allright, i like it! [8:16pm] Ottone: Champagne thing?? [8:17pm] imchandave: wire cage. [8:18pm] outtolunc left the chat room. [8:18pm] bertramt_ joined the chat room. [8:19pm] Ottone: so u must be steve underwod [8:19pm] Ottone: [8:19pm] mjgraves left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [8:19pm] Ottone: hahaha [8:20pm] Ottone: Phoner is cool - that used to be tool to send free text message via ISDN D channel [8:20pm] bertramt__ joined the chat room. [8:22pm] Ottone: It's so funny that people are all excited about Gigaset wireless phones, while Siemens decided to sell that division [8:22pm] Zeeek: shhhhhhh! [8:25pm] leifmadsen left the chat room. ("Peas out!") [8:25pm] Ottone: woa! [8:31pm] Ottone: Interesting about OpenStage: "Any Java applications run on the phone will be run in the Java sandbox controlled by the Java service." [8:35pm] mjgraves joined the chat room. [8:36pm] bertramt left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [8:38pm] BertieC joined the chat room. [8:38pm] bertramt_ left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [8:39pm] beek: The new Star Trek movie is really worth seeing. [8:39pm] jsmith: beek: Don't spoil it for me... I'm going to see it tonight [8:40pm] Ottone: Critics here say: "The best pyjama party in space" [8:41pm] Ottone: Actually you can't know what a download contains until it is finished. [8:41pm] beek: jsmith: Are you going to see it in a iMax theatre or a regular one? [8:43pm] jsmith: beek: iMax, of course! [8:43pm] killall-9 joined the chat room. [8:43pm] Zeeek: hello killall-9 [8:43pm] beek: I wish there was an iMax theatre around here... the visuals were great on a regular screen. You're in for a treat on iMax. [8:43pm] killall-9: hi ppl [8:44pm] l-fy joined the chat room. [8:44pm] ricko73: welcome [8:44pm] mjgraves: hi [8:44pm] l-fy: hi [8:44pm] bertramt joined the chat room. [8:44pm] ricko73: I'm eating my taco [8:45pm] mjgraves left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [8:45pm] mjgraves joined the chat room. [8:46pm] wolrah: whoa.....for some reason I was convinced it was next week and I just realized it's the 8th, not the 15th... [8:46pm] mjgraves: always interested in other voip projects [8:46pm] mjgraves: carpe diem [8:47pm] ricko73: carpe felis [8:47pm] Ottone: wlan [8:47pm] mjgraves: no wmm on the wlan [8:48pm] Ottone: Most YATE implementations are commercial, right? [8:49pm] bertramt left the chat room. [8:49pm] Ottone: Based on a messaging system [8:49pm] Zeeek: someone please tweet out that Diana is live on the call if you like [8:49pm] Zeeek: Ottone: [8:53pm] Zeeek: thanks ricko73 [8:53pm] BertieC left the chat room. [8:54pm] Zeeek: http://yate.null.ro/pmwiki/ [8:58pm] Jacke: jingle is voip in xmpp (Jabber) [8:59pm] Ottone: My impression was that Jingle is also rather going down than increasing in usage [8:59pm] Jacke: mgcp is widly used in cable tv voip networks [8:59pm] Jacke: Ottone: depends how you look at it - every new gmail user is a potential jingle users [9:00pm] mjgraves: I fired up eyebeam in g722 to get into the zipdex bridge [9:00pm] mjgraves: much easier to hear Diane in G722 [9:01pm] Zeeek: indeed! [9:01pm] imchandave: mjgraves: your not showing up as wideband on the zipdx console. [9:01pm] Jacke: eyebeam for osx is somewhat left out [9:01pm] bertramt__ left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [9:01pm] Zeeek: unfortunately [9:01pm] Zeeek: because I am on OS X [9:01pm] mjgraves: was, but went to g711 on its own [9:02pm] Jacke: Zeeek: Using anything software-base on osx that provides 722? [9:02pm] Zeeek: nothing works [9:02pm] Zeeek: I am on Windows XP + eyebeam to ZipDX [9:02pm] Jacke: ok. next week i use the same combination [9:02pm] mjgraves: back in 722 [9:03pm] imchandave: I'll be playing around with phonelite in a VM on OS X later tonight... [9:04pm] imchandave: Welcome mjgraves in wideband [9:05pm] mjgraves: werezatcomingfrom? [9:05pm] beek: IT WASN'T ME! [9:05pm] ricko73: not me Zeeek [9:05pm] imchandave: not me either. [9:05pm] beek: That does sound nice in HiDef [9:05pm] Ottone: hahaha [9:05pm] mjgraves: no audio at all right now [9:05pm] Ottone: must be on g722 [9:06pm] mjgraves: I got bumped from zipdx [9:06pm] Zeeek: sorry! [9:07pm] mjgraves: sounds very cool [9:07pm] Zeeek: who is "device" ? [9:07pm] maximCH: me? [9:08pm] Zeeek: you had Digium MOH? [9:08pm] maximCH: no [9:08pm] maximCH: I heard it though [9:08pm] Zeeek: are you muted now? [9:08pm] maximCH: no [9:08pm] Zeeek: then you're not "device" [9:08pm] Zeeek: [9:08pm] maximCH: [9:08pm] Zeeek: WHO IS "device" ? [9:10pm] Zeeek: consulting ecosystem around yate? [9:11pm] da__d00d: how does yate compare to freeswitch? [9:12pm] Ottone: Freeswitch has MPL license [9:12pm] Ottone: You must contribute your changes [9:13pm] Ottone: hahaha [9:13pm] da__d00d: lol [9:14pm] l-fy: i got disconected [9:14pm] l-fy: can i answer here? [9:15pm] Ottone: Nokia cut her off [9:15pm] mjgraves: I keep getting dropped by my local wifi [9:15pm] mjgraves: this is typical of vowifi imho [9:16pm] alrs: mjgraves: I had a voip handset that would drop calls the moment the microwave in the building started its 2.4ghz blast [9:16pm] Ottone: To smash the atom was mankind's intent - how the atom may - at any time - return the compliment. [9:17pm] Ottone: Plz excuse that little off-topic peom, trying to fill in the gap [9:17pm] • l-fy trying to get alsa working [9:18pm] Jacke: yate client is the yate aswell, so the same licence apply [9:18pm] mjgraves: wonderful ad hoc call [9:18pm] Jacke: ie, gpl [9:18pm] Zeeek: thanks for your patience Diana and everyone [9:18pm] mjgraves: we need to do this up for real one Friday [9:18pm] l-fy: Zeeek: wait [9:18pm] l-fy: let me get my stuff fixed [9:19pm] Jacke: yate has nothing to fix, it just works ;p;-) [9:19pm] Ottone: Yate doesn't need batteries [9:20pm] Ottone: Nice show - yes, we can hear! [9:20pm] Ottone: yeah [9:20pm] maximCH: Zeeek: make sure the pot doesn't get wet [9:20pm] Ottone: Yate just works [9:20pm] l-fy: it will be better if the linux sound system will be decent [9:20pm] maximCH: you can't smoke it anymore then [9:21pm] maximCH: [9:21pm] mjgraves: back in via cell since the local wifi went to #@%$# [9:21pm] Jacke: l-fy: i told you, use BSD;-) [9:21pm] l-fy: mmm [9:21pm] Ottone: did you see these french prioson guards protest and fight the police? [9:21pm] imchandave: mjgraves: someone else is downloading HD "Nixon/Frost" [9:21pm] Ottone: VERY weird [9:21pm] mjgraves: he he [9:22pm] mjgraves: I'm in Charlotte...she's at home in Houston [9:22pm] Ottone: French prisons are heavily overloaded (is that the right term)? [9:22pm] Ottone: Now the guards are on strike and protest, and have street fights with the police [9:22pm] imchandave: I've got it here in my building as well [9:22pm] imchandave: not to me though. [9:23pm] mjgraves: on my 20 mb cable it took 25 min to d/l win7 iso [9:23pm] imchandave: 100Mbs is the residential ISP. [9:23pm] mjgraves: I heard that hulu was blocking proxies these days [9:23pm] mjgraves: just the past couple of days [9:23pm] imchandave: Was that Diana a second ago? [9:24pm] imchandave: I heard a woman's voice ... [9:24pm] imchandave: not anymore... [9:24pm] mjgraves: Comcast is to offer 50/10 in Houston by August [9:24pm] Jacke: it's raining here, in Poland, Wrocław... maybe you hear that? [9:24pm] Ottone: Rain on your windows - machine? :-)) [9:24pm] l-fy: mmmm, intresting [9:24pm] Zeeek: l-fy [9:25pm] ricko73: I had to bug out. [9:25pm] ricko73: have a good week [9:25pm] Ottone: From the fairy tale [9:25pm] killall-9: l-fy: try yate-qt4.conf [client] device=oss//dev/dsp [9:25pm] mjgraves: have another box from Wine Library ship today [9:25pm] l-fy: Zeeek: do you have a different entrance for the system? [9:25pm] imchandave: mail some... [9:25pm] l-fy: killall-9: thank you my friend but i got my alsa going [9:25pm] Zeeek: PSTN [9:26pm] l-fy: the problem is that the system there has a few problems and it returns a bad-uri [9:26pm] Zeeek: try this: [9:26pm] Zeeek: 200901@login.zipdx.com [9:26pm] J-MN left the chat room. [9:26pm] mjgraves: short wave = a haircut [9:26pm] l-fy: Zeeek: this doesn't answer at all [9:27pm] Jacke: yeah, you're on air. [9:27pm] Ottone: can u kick her? [9:27pm] Jacke: l-fy: use 22622@66.212.134.192, 22622# then, and then #22 [9:28pm] mjgraves: the short wave reference is most appropriate [9:28pm] Ottone: aaah [9:28pm] Jacke: oh, not #22 just #2 [9:28pm] Ottone: that's relieving [9:29pm] mjgraves: the cobblers kids have no shoes [9:31pm] killall-9: laptops are sometimes terrible at sound, especially if they try to multiplex several functions on a single connector [9:31pm] Ottone: laptops need USB sound devices [9:31pm] l-fy: killall-9 it's Paul [9:31pm] l-fy: him wrote the damn thing that i'm using [9:31pm] mjgraves: analog audio on laptops is usually poor [9:31pm] l-fy: killall-9 it's always the same [9:32pm] mjgraves: all geeks...only one Zeeek [9:32pm] l-fy: killall-9 also speaks german and french [9:32pm] l-fy: and of course english [9:32pm] killall-9: Ottone: most cheap usb cards work pretty good and don't need drivers, et least in linux [9:32pm] Ottone: indeed [9:32pm] l-fy: i speak sip [9:32pm] Jacke: And rumanian? [9:33pm] l-fy: i can read the ssrc sometimes [9:33pm] • killall-9 scratches head, tries to remember [9:33pm] l-fy: you guys should use a yate conference system [9:33pm] mjgraves: oooooooohhhhh! [9:33pm] l-fy: give me 3 minutes to configure the conference room [9:33pm] l-fy: but the bandwidth it's shitty [9:33pm] • Ottone remembers that Zeeek is a bachelor tonite [9:33pm] l-fy: nope [9:34pm] l-fy: g711 [9:34pm] Ottone: u sure that zipdx will love u to switch over? [9:34pm] l-fy: so i'm suppose to be a guy [9:34pm] mjgraves: what are we drinking? [9:34pm] l-fy: you are missing most of the fun [9:34pm] maximCH: beer here [9:34pm] imchandave: Stella here. [9:34pm] Ottone: getting dark here as well - I am 4 hours away from you, Zeek, to the east [9:34pm] mjgraves: where? [9:35pm] mjgraves: Ah, Stella is my wifes name [9:35pm] Jacke: he's drinkin you're wife? [9:35pm] imchandave: Sorry...meant the beer. [9:35pm] Ottone: Artois [9:35pm] Ottone: hehehe [9:35pm] mjgraves: he he [9:35pm] imchandave: yeah! [9:35pm] alrs: the Wife Beater [9:36pm] mjgraves: got upgrades on my flight home...red wine of some form on the way home [9:36pm] Jacke: You're making me use alcohol in excess...i drank coke, but now that you've mentioned it, let me have a look at my wine stand [9:36pm] l-fy: ok guys [9:36pm] mjgraves: and what is it about Michigan and phones!!!! [9:36pm] Ottone: Michael, I think FWD got away too nicely on your blog [9:36pm] mjgraves: probably right about that [9:37pm] mjgraves: no point in beating the up [9:37pm] Ottone: tru tho [9:37pm] mjgraves: their attention is elsewhere [9:38pm] Ottone: FWD had a really great potential, and they didn't manage to use it [9:38pm] Zeeek: l-fy ???? [9:38pm] l-fy: yes [9:39pm] l-fy: testing the conference room [9:39pm] Ottone: yate just works [9:40pm] Jacke: stop beating on her She's a nice girl ;_) [9:40pm] l-fy: Jacke: i got use to it [9:40pm] mjgraves: if yer dishing it out, ye need to be able to take it [9:40pm] Jacke: l-fy: Someone has to stand for you while you do the weightlifting [9:40pm] mjgraves: I believe so [9:41pm] l-fy: mjgraves: what makes you think that i should do that? [9:41pm] Ottone: did you know that misspelling the name of Nicolae Ceauşescu could easily get you into prison? [9:41pm] mjgraves: I admire anyone with the gumption to put together a new project [9:41pm] Ottone: One little mistake and you wrote "little " [9:41pm] l-fy: mjgraves: i'm not under the same impression but well, maybe i'm paranoid [9:41pm] Jacke: not former [9:42pm] Ottone: sorry: [9:42pm] killall-9: lol [9:42pm] Jacke: I've taken that report. Trashed it [9:42pm] l-fy: anyway i believe that mjgraves acts like that because it's the first time when it sees a girl [9:42pm] l-fy: [9:43pm] Jacke: It's blossoming, give her a room [9:43pm] mjgraves: several sisters and long time married [9:44pm] l-fy: mjgraves: that means a lot of females [9:44pm] Jacke: Ok, Zeeek, tell us about the wine that you have meanwhile. [9:49pm] Zeeek: Diana ? [9:49pm] l-fy: yes [9:50pm] l-fy: it's me [9:50pm] l-fy: you can't hear me? [9:50pm] l-fy: damn [9:51pm] l-fy: i know now why the conference doesn't work [9:51pm] l-fy: sip:100@diana.null.ro [9:51pm] Ottone: Zeeek, did people tell you that you actually have a very good moderator voice? [9:51pm] l-fy: it's a firewall problem with the nat i'm using [9:51pm] l-fy: yes you do have a great voice [9:52pm] achilles joined the chat room. [9:52pm] imchandave: that's why Randy was interviewing the Beatles.... [9:52pm] l-fy: nooo [9:52pm] l-fy: it's like in /dev/null [9:52pm] l-fy: and our company phase it's "we don't dereference null" [9:52pm] achilles: hello, I have an ordinary pbx connected via h323 gateway to my asterisks pbx, when users call, the phone rings, but no voice heard at each side, where/how start debugging ? what possiblites do you think it might be the reason ? [9:53pm] l-fy: achilles: try to use wireshark [9:53pm] l-fy: or do like everyone else [9:53pm] l-fy: use yate achilles [9:53pm] achilles: thank you very much [9:53pm] achilles: but even when I use wireshark [9:53pm] l-fy: achilles: welcome [9:53pm] achilles: I don't think I gonna know the reason [9:53pm] achilles: the packets will be showed but what next [9:54pm] jsmith: achilles: Did you try turning on RTP debugging on the Asterisk CLI? [9:54pm] l-fy: achilles: than again, use yate instead of asterisk and use it as a h323-sip gateway and than asterisk with sip [9:54pm] l-fy: Zeeek: killall-9 had the domain [9:54pm] achilles: it's the first time I hear about yate .. [9:55pm] l-fy: and we didn't had money to buy another domain so the company had to have the same name as a domain, so this is why Null Team [9:55pm] Ottone: "never too late to hear about yate" [9:55pm] Ottone: Diana, u wanna buy that marketing phrase from me? [9:55pm] l-fy: killall-9: that's Randy [9:56pm] achilles: okay, I maybe I forgot to say the connection made through some firewalls and such stuff [9:56pm] l-fy: killall-9: you can answer all the questions [9:56pm] l-fy: better than i can [9:57pm] l-fy: Zeeek: you will probably prefer killall-9 because him looks so incredible good [9:57pm] • l-fy enjoying a great venetian wine [9:57pm] Zeeek: oh? [9:57pm] Ottone: Q: Are there success stories of very small (embedded) yate implementations? [9:57pm] l-fy: Zeeek: you will prefer Paul for conference i mean [9:57pm] mjgraves: is the conf server wideband capable? [9:57pm] Zeeek: Diana, you look good too [9:58pm] l-fy: romania it's gmt+2 [9:58pm] Jacke: Zeeek: you're CEST? [9:58pm] l-fy: gmt+3 sorry [9:58pm] killall-9: EET DST [9:59pm] l-fy: wine [9:59pm] l-fy: girls, where ???? [10:00pm] l-fy: askozia it's a spam system [10:00pm] mjgraves: Did Siemens end up buying the enterprise stuff from Nortel? [10:00pm] Ottone: Did you go the baltic sea in Rostock? [10:00pm] l-fy: it's used as a dialer [10:00pm] Ottone: He's from SER [10:00pm] l-fy: yes [10:00pm] Ottone: Now OpenSIPS [10:01pm] l-fy: Bogdan gave you the system [10:01pm] l-fy: system = t-shirt [10:01pm] l-fy: sorry [10:01pm] Jacke: system t-shirt [10:01pm] l-fy: i'm getting confused, that's because Paul has such a great voice [10:01pm] Ottone: Randy has a better voice [10:01pm] Zeeek: randulo@ssl-mail.com [10:01pm] • l-fy left .ro for too long [10:01pm] Jacke: better then mr. Stallman? [10:01pm] l-fy: Ottone: maybe but killall-9 it's my room mate [10:02pm] Ottone: glad you didn't say bed-mate [10:02pm] Ottone: *scnr* [10:02pm] l-fy: Marian it's near me [10:02pm] l-fy: [10:03pm] l-fy: well, at least we get paid to continue to work on the software [10:04pm] mjgraves: gotta run [10:04pm] mjgraves: talk more next week [10:04pm] mjgraves left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:04pm] Ottone: bye, curious to see what's on your blog next [10:07pm] Zeeek: bye [10:07pm] l-fy: 4 Mb [10:07pm] l-fy: i took the ferry and the train to get in copenhagen yesterday [10:07pm] l-fy: but i can hear you guys [10:08pm] l-fy: and from denmark to romania [10:08pm] l-fy: and from romania to venice [10:08pm] l-fy: and next month in us [10:08pm] l-fy: no [10:08pm] l-fy: but i have you on chat [10:08pm] l-fy: in july actually [10:08pm] l-fy: where are you Randy located? [10:08pm] Ottone: ok, gotta go, I enjoyed it very much [10:08pm] l-fy: for how long? [10:08pm] Ottone left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:09pm] Zeeek: bye ott [10:09pm] l-fy: i've been in Bordeaux before [10:09pm] l-fy: i love the building of cour of order in Bordeaux [10:09pm] l-fy: court [10:10pm] l-fy: i'm hearing Randy and i hear you Paul from the conference bridge [10:10pm] l-fy: yes [10:10pm] l-fy: yes Paul [10:10pm] l-fy: bingo :))))) [10:11pm] l-fy: hi John [10:11pm] Jacke: i'm hear too, but in hear-only mode [10:11pm] l-fy: so do i [10:11pm] l-fy: maybe i'm muted [10:11pm] l-fy: Randy try to unmute me [10:12pm] l-fy: it's just my stupid nat [10:13pm] l-fy: Randy try www.voike.com [10:13pm] l-fy: it's a conference system that publish the coonference online [10:13pm] l-fy: and it's also an audio bloging system [10:14pm] imchandave: I could give them a sip account onto my asterisk in HK which will relay them to the talkshoe or zipdx bridge if they want. [10:14pm] l-fy: but the cool it's part that it links blogs between them [10:14pm] l-fy: so you can have a post answering to another post [10:15pm] l-fy: let's agree Randy that we will do it in 2 weeks [10:15pm] imchandave: Literally all over the world [10:15pm] l-fy: maybe by than i will be home [10:15pm] l-fy: i miss home already a lot [10:16pm] imchandave: So does that mean another burned pizza for you Randy? [10:16pm] l-fy: i miss my kayak and my badminton [10:16pm] imchandave: I mean toniht. [10:16pm] imchandave: tonight. [10:16pm] l-fy: Randy don't forget they make money by calling you in the middle of the night [10:16pm] l-fy: Randy i'm refering to askozia people [10:16pm] l-fy: yes they do [10:16pm] l-fy: they make outgoing call centers [10:17pm] l-fy: asterisk + predictive dialer [10:17pm] Jacke: i can call someone at night for money [10:17pm] l-fy: i hate predictive dialers [10:18pm] l-fy: i appologize [10:18pm] l-fy: askozia free is not a spam tool [10:18pm] l-fy: but they should use yate because it's great for embedded systems [10:18pm] l-fy: wow [10:19pm] l-fy: that's a great effect [10:19pm] maximCH: it's a really old bridge [10:19pm] Jacke: l-fy: But it doesn't have the predictive dialer, so no go [10:19pm] Jacke: yeah, like London's Tower Bridge [10:19pm] Jacke: at least the sound was similar [10:19pm] beek: Shouldn't that be "raise the bridge", thus making it impassible. [10:20pm] Jacke: or lowering the bridge just played backwards? [10:20pm] killall-9: "you have been disconnected by the host" [10:20pm] l-fy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orbn/1569307380/ [10:23pm] maximCH: good nite, all [10:23pm] maximCH: talk to you next week. [10:23pm] TDF: goodbye and thanks [10:23pm] TDF left the chat room. [10:25pm] Zeeek: Thanks everyone [10:26pm] Zeeek: Yate peopme get beack to me on the May 22 date please [10:26pm] Jacke: Tahnk you, Randy [10:26pm] Zeeek: people [10:26pm] beek: One thing I've noticed about using the HiDef bridge -- it's less fatiguing for these long sessions. [10:26pm] Zeeek: Thabnsk all, please come back I love the live calls [10:26pm] l-fy: Zeeek: please answer me in private [10:26pm] beek: Thanks Randy [10:26pm] Zeeek: beek: lucky you have the hardwared [10:26pm] da__d00d left the chat room. (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- It'll be on slashdot one day...") [10:26pm] • beek nods [10:26pm] Zeeek: I will be back for some editing in a moment after I get some food [10:27pm] imchandave left the chat room. [10:29pm] beek: You deserve the break. [10:36pm] dlewis left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [10:36pm] killall-9 left the chat room. ("cd ~ && Zzzz...") [10:38pm] Zeeek: eating duck [10:39pm] Jacke: donald duck? [10:41pm] Jacke: bon appetit, btw [10:43pm] dlewis joined the chat room. [10:45pm] Zeeek: ty [10:46pm] Zeeek: we're here all week in the buildup to the climactic VoIP Users COnference [11:04pm] Zeeek: editing to make a compressed version of yate and Diana [11:22pm] achilles left the chat room. ("Leaving") [11:43pm] Zeeek: Good nifght!