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[6:07pm] Zeeek: lets start a HD show then [6:07pm] jtodd: So apparently ulaw is "not acceptable here" at 123@ts.x2z.eu [6:07pm] ricko73: http://www.logmein.com [6:07pm] killall-9 joined the chat room. [6:07pm] Zeeek: try talkshoe@vuc.onsip.com [6:08pm] • NirS-Away-Sleepi just woke up, because he needs to go and prepare the spargel for dinner [6:08pm] NirS-Away-Sleepi is now known as NirS-cooking. [6:09pm] jasonwert joined the chat room. [6:10pm] killall-9: how do i get a pin? [6:10pm] imchandave joined the chat room. [6:11pm] l-fy joined the chat room. [6:11pm] l-fy: hey hey [6:11pm] ricko73: hello l-fy [6:11pm] l-fy: hi ricko73 [6:11pm] ricko73: are you dialed in? [6:11pm] Zeeek: pin use 1# [6:11pm] l-fy: how do i get there? [6:11pm] l-fy: one sec [6:11pm] Zeeek: l-fy: can u dial in? [6:11pm] jtodd left the chat room. ("This computer has gone to sleep") [6:12pm] thomas_austria_ joined the chat room. [6:12pm] mjgraves: we need to ensure that jtodd gets some wideband exposure, real soon now [6:12pm] ricko73: mjgraves: can't his company afford to buy him a phone? [6:12pm] mjgraves: apparently not [6:12pm] Zeeek: 7463#22622#1@proxy.ideasip.com [6:12pm] mjgraves: might have to hook him up [6:13pm] leifmadsen joined the chat room. [6:14pm] packetman: loving that bed music in the background...sounds very professional [6:15pm] packetman: I haven't been on in a while [6:15pm] jeff_netspk joined the chat room. [6:15pm] killall-9: what's this you are (un)muted while on music? [6:15pm] leifmadsen: w00t! did I make it just in time for the start? [6:15pm] ricko73: nasty! [6:15pm] killall-9: n/p [6:16pm] mib_5g63nr joined the chat room. [6:17pm] l-fy: back [6:17pm] l-fy: hey killall-9 [6:17pm] l-fy: killall-9: can you get me a bridge up to the Zeeek proxy [6:17pm] l-fy: ? [6:17pm] ricko73: l-fy: let Zeeek know when you're dialed in? [6:17pm] killall-9: l-fy: my microphone seems noisy [6:17pm] Zeeek: Can you call in? It would be eaiser to hear you [6:17pm] killall-9: l-fy: what kind? route for your wifi? [6:18pm] Zeeek: killall-9: the "signal" is more noise [6:21pm] _3vian: what that skype for sip? [6:21pm] _3vian: not SFA [6:21pm] Zeeek: Skype for Asterisk [6:21pm] Zeeek: SFA [6:21pm] • leifmadsen is working on the Asterisk issue tracker while listening in [6:22pm] _3vian: sorry - meant to say wasn't the email regarding skype for sip? I got an email for that... [6:22pm] Zeeek: leifmadsen: d'oh [6:22pm] Zeeek: be there for Jim Meggelen [6:22pm] leifmadsen: Zeeek: ya, I'm just idling here [6:22pm] leifmadsen: I don't have anything really interesting to mention today anyways [6:23pm] ricko73: CABLE GUY! [6:23pm] Zeeek: heh [6:24pm] brycec: I know how that goes... "When there's a compelling reason to do it, we'll do it[quickly]" [6:29pm] jervin joined the chat room. [6:29pm] _ShrikE joined the chat room. [6:30pm] wildfire joined the chat room. [6:33pm] mjgraves left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [6:34pm] jervin: Hello from Orlando [6:34pm] mjgraves joined the chat room. [6:36pm] Zeeek: hi jervin [6:37pm] michael-i: good listen so far...gotta go though [6:37pm] michael-i: enjoy your weekend everyone [6:37pm] michael-i left the chat room. [6:39pm] mjgraves: http://www.abptech.com/blog/hd-communications-the-turning-point-for-voip/ [6:40pm] wildfire2 left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [6:40pm] Zeeek: Working on Diana's connection to the bridge [6:42pm] brycec: Thanks Zeeek I'm looking forward to some Yate talk (Not that I object to the current conversation in the least) [6:42pm] Zeeek: She's on her way! [6:42pm] brycec: btw, feel free to mute me please in case I have to put the call on hold to take another [6:42pm] Zeeek: be comin' ropund the mountain when she comes [6:43pm] brycec: haha [6:43pm] killall-9: many existing radio interfaces support a single codec / rate with a very specific packing [6:43pm] mib_5g63nr left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [6:43pm] killall-9: how to persuade providers go for higher quality per same bandwidth instead of lower bandwidth per channel (more calls)? [6:44pm] Zeeek: Diana is (almost) here! [6:45pm] mjgraves left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [6:45pm] wildfire2 joined the chat room. [6:47pm] Zeeek: Speaking: David Burgess. Glad to have him with us again! (google is your friend if you don't know who he is) [6:47pm] brycec: Work came along, I'll re-join in a bit [6:49pm] killall-9: even on tdm networks it would be relatively easy to use a codec that packs 2 16khz samples in 1 octet - would preserve the bit rate [6:49pm] Zeeek: Diaaaaaanaaaaaaaa ? [6:49pm] killall-9: extra bonus if resists to robbed bits [6:51pm] Zeeek: OMG aren't you in the air yet, Michael? [6:51pm] Zeeek: are you doing an Andy? [6:52pm] dcdeadbeat: or is Michael breaking FAA regs and using his phone on a flight? [6:53pm] Zeeek: 30,000 feet! [6:53pm] Zeeek: do not tamper with the smoke alatms [6:54pm] Zeeek: Paul is that you I just unmuted? [6:54pm] killall-9: yes [6:54pm] killall-9: changed headset [6:54pm] marian_2 joined the chat room. [6:54pm] marian_2: hello [6:55pm] Zeeek: still noisy but if you were talking it would be ok I think [6:55pm] wildfire left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [6:56pm] l-fy left the chat room. (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [6:56pm] marian_2 is now known as l-fy. [6:57pm] Zeeek: hey l-fy [6:57pm] l-fy: hey Zeeek [6:57pm] l-fy: killall-9: around babe? [6:57pm] Zeeek: get a room! [6:58pm] l-fy: Zeeek: we have a house [6:58pm] Zeeek: ok [6:58pm] Zeeek: that'll do! [6:58pm] l-fy: we can use any rooms from that house [7:00pm] kfife joined the chat room. [7:02pm] kfife: dburgess00: Thanks David for answering my questions. I wanted to say thanks over the air but I had to mute myself because of some external noise. [7:02pm] dburgess00: no problem. glad to be in on the call. [7:02pm] Zeeek: http://yate.null.ro [7:03pm] Zeeek: dburgess00: great to see you again [7:03pm] dburgess00: thanks. [7:03pm] dburgess00: i've been wanting to follow as a regular habit. [7:03pm] kfife: dburgess00: It's always nice to have bona fide expertise to address these non-trivial questions! [7:05pm] • brycec back [7:06pm] thomas_austria_1 joined the chat room. [7:08pm] Zeeek: translation from H323 to SIP [7:08pm] Zeeek: brycec: you need to be unmuted? [7:08pm] brycec: Zeeek: leave me muted please [7:08pm] brycec: I'll let you know when I have something to say [7:09pm] Zeeek: If I unmuted myself when I had something to say, I'd never be unmuted [7:10pm] Zeeek: IRC #yate [7:11pm] thomas_austria_ left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [7:11pm] fred-tmft: huge lag [7:12pm] kfife: Very high latency: Wait-n-see [7:13pm] killall-9: can't figure out for myself [7:13pm] killall-9: sond card trouble [7:15pm] Zeeek: let me know if you want to speak and i'll unmute you [7:16pm] brycec: Sounds like FreeSwitch's goal? [7:16pm] l-fy: brycec: just that we have it now [7:17pm] kfife: Yate: shows its strengths best when used as a pstn-to-voip gateway? What kind of interface hardware? [7:17pm] l-fy: sangoma [7:17pm] l-fy: both windows and linux [7:17pm] brycec: Just that both aim to be routing/switching platforms. However they're used is up to another user/developer. [7:17pm] ricko73: until Windows crashes [7:18pm] kfife: What kind of call densities could you achieve when functioning as a layer 5 swithc? [7:18pm] kfife: switch? [7:19pm] kfife: ...using a modern x86 server and sangoma cards? [7:20pm] kfife: Oops-- I meant to say class 5 switch -- not layer 5. [7:20pm] Zeeek: kfife: ask away buddy! [7:20pm] kfife: [7:20pm] kfife: Over the 'air'? [7:20pm] Zeeek: yes, pls [7:21pm] killall-9: svn diff [7:21pm] killall-9: oops, sorry, wrong focus [7:21pm] Zeeek: call densities X86 typical system? [7:21pm] Zeeek: killall-9: LOL [7:21pm] Zeeek: su [7:21pm] Zeeek: mypasswd [7:21pm] Zeeek: ooopps! sorry [7:21pm] carrar: Password: [7:22pm] Zeeek: mypass [7:22pm] killall-9: 30B+1D [7:22pm] brycec: 30+2 [7:23pm] brycec: 32 timeslots, 30 B, 2 signaling [7:23pm] killall-9: 30B+1D+ 1 sync [7:23pm] brycec: (1 sig, 1 sync) [7:23pm] l-fy: 40*30 [7:23pm] brycec: 1200 [7:23pm] brycec: there needs to be a bot on the channel doing math [7:24pm] killall-9: depends on the capabilities of remote systems [7:24pm] killall-9: we can use 31B but some devices have dedicated hw on timeslot 16 [7:24pm] Zeeek: that math is pretty easy tho [7:24pm] Zeeek: LAZY!!! [7:24pm] carrar: remedial almost [7:25pm] brycec: Spread it over many boxes, if one fails, only a small subset is lost [7:25pm] Zeeek: 3x4 = 12 [7:25pm] JimCifarelli: Will the number of different codecs in use lower this call volume? [7:25pm] brycec: Zeeek: *10*10 [7:25pm] Zeeek: 100 [7:25pm] Zeeek: 1x1 = 1 [7:25pm] Zeeek: 1x2 = [7:25pm] Zeeek: 2x2 [7:25pm] Zeeek: 2x3 [7:25pm] Zeeek: etc [7:25pm] brycec: Zeeek: Now you're just #flood ing the channel [7:26pm] dcdeadbeat: 2+2=5 [7:26pm] brycec: 1200 @ aLaw.... [7:26pm] brycec: 600 @ aLaw, 600 @ uLaw [7:26pm] kfife: That's why I'm wearing these nifty high-water pants!! [7:26pm] kfife: ...Because Randy's flooding the channel [7:26pm] JimCifarelli: sure [7:26pm] JimCifarelli: no thanks. but thanks [7:27pm] killall-9: sometimes the bottleneck is in the ethernet side [7:27pm] Zeeek: FLOOD [7:27pm] brycec: Zeeek: But you're the host... [7:27pm] • brycec goes SCUBA [7:27pm] fred-tmft: gotta run off for a while... hopefully can come back Very interesting conf today! [7:28pm] kfife: Thanks Fred! [7:28pm] brycec: The word is "good" [7:28pm] fred-tmft left the chat room. [7:32pm] l-fy: http://www.freesentral.com/ [7:33pm] brycec: Thanks l-fy I was just about to ask for the URL [7:33pm] Zeeek: nice! [7:33pm] brycec: Perhaps explain difference between Yate-Client, Yate-Server, YateAdmin... [7:34pm] Zeeek: sip:7463#22622#1@proxy.ideasip.com [7:34pm] brycec: I think kfife originally believed that YateClient was an "admin" client of server [7:34pm] brycec: anks l-fy [7:34pm] Zeeek: anyone on IRC who wasn't sure how to call in to ask questions or comment ^^^^^^^^^ [7:34pm] kfife: brycec: You are exactly correct. [7:35pm] • NirS-cooking apologizes for not being on the call, dinner and guests have my hands full - will be online later [7:35pm] Zeeek: We need to coral you for EC2 talk! [7:35pm] killall-9: radius [7:35pm] Zeeek: http://amoocon.de for videos of most of the AMOOCON videos [7:36pm] Zeeek: errr [7:36pm] Zeeek: videos of the videos, yes, nice [7:36pm] jervin left the chat room. ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042523]") [7:38pm] SparFux joined the chat room. [7:38pm] mib_8v9sbz joined the chat room. [7:39pm] brycec: "How is YATE configured?" [7:39pm] brycec: (My interpretation of Zeeek ) [7:39pm] l-fy: brycec: easy [7:39pm] imchandave: "Applied Mikma's patch for MySQL options detection" in the CVS comments. [7:41pm] brycec: Zeeek: "Write your own, tie it in as a module" [7:42pm] imchandave: I-fy: Diana, Davy from HK again. I didn't see which QT license you are applying to the Yate system. Was it developed under the Prioprietary license or was it developed under the QT Open Source license? [7:42pm] l-fy: gpl [7:44pm] • brycec is proud of his knowledge of the Asterisk Language [7:44pm] killall-9: moved away from the sound card to a real phone [7:44pm] Zeeek: killall-9: are you dialed in? [7:44pm] brycec: lol [7:44pm] jasonwert left the chat room. (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [7:44pm] imchandave: GPL is your source. But TrollTech has stupid licensing about development of QT linked code. They have 2 licenses that the original developer MUST choose from during development: Prioprietary or Open Source. [7:44pm] kfife: Whitewater kayaking or flatwater? [7:45pm] l-fy: open source is gpl [7:45pm] l-fy: flatwather [7:45pm] l-fy: i'm just about to go in Venice for www.vogalonga.com [7:45pm] imchandave: ok. thanks. Just want to verify since it was not stated in your CVS. [7:45pm] kfife: From Romania, you're probably a sprinter? All the best flatwater sprinters here in Chicago are from romania. [7:46pm] l-fy: kfife: i've started a few months before [7:46pm] imchandave: No Question is every innocent, Randy. [7:46pm] imchandave: s/every/ever/ [7:46pm] Zeeek: all of mine are [7:46pm] l-fy: because i wanted to go at vogalonga, so i brough a kayak and start training [7:47pm] kfife: l-fy: Fantastic! Kayaking is such a wonderful sport! [7:47pm] brycec: Zeeek: I'm like that, hence why I'm looking at FreeSentral [7:48pm] brycec: Pre-packaged virtual machines, each configured with a different demo config. ? [7:48pm] Zeeek: yeah, good idea [7:49pm] Zeeek: or live CD? [7:49pm] • brycec nods enthusiastically, switching != pbx [7:51pm] • brycec is beginning to grasp that each module has its own .conf file, moving on to how they get tied together to actually complete a call [7:51pm] brycec: l-fy: You brought up an interesting idea. How is the conferencing of multiple (3+) channels handled? For example, configuring Yate as a conference bridge. [7:51pm] Zeeek: get on and ask! [7:52pm] • Zeeek puts spotlight on byr [7:52pm] Zeeek: brycec: [7:52pm] jasonwert joined the chat room. [7:52pm] • brycec was always behind the spotlight in school, A/V club, theatre tech, so much fun [7:52pm] ricko73: RhinoBot fetch brycec [7:52pm] ricko73: lol [7:52pm] brycec: ricko73: You know full well RhinoBot's not here [7:53pm] brycec: ricko73: and that I am [7:53pm] ricko73: I know but you are, so in essense the effect was the same [7:53pm] l-fy: 70 channels in a conference [7:55pm] ricko73: I've been in and out of the room with my phone. Did I hear correctly that a database is required to run YATE? [7:55pm] l-fy: ricko73: no [7:55pm] Zeeek: gentlement (and I give you a lot of credit there) ASK you questions! [7:55pm] l-fy: but it's a feature [7:55pm] l-fy: conf/room [7:55pm] kfife: Is there anything about the architecture of YATE that would prevent it from competing directly in the soft PBX space (like Asterisk) if someone were to add PBX/CDR features to the core of yate? In other words is each system's design optimal for its niche? [7:56pm] l-fy: ^555$=conf/diana [7:56pm] Zeeek: kfife: ask away with your HD Voice! [7:56pm] Zeeek: hahhaa [7:56pm] Zeeek: does YATE work with Rhino or only Sangoma? [7:57pm] l-fy: it should work with rihno [7:57pm] l-fy: rhino [7:57pm] Zeeek: that too! [7:57pm] l-fy: that's zaptel right? [7:57pm] brycec: Zeeek: There's Zaptel support, so maybe, but we've never tried it [7:57pm] brycec: l-fy: right [7:57pm] Zeeek: DAHDI's home [7:57pm] brycec: Zeeek: mute me? [7:58pm] brycec: Zeeek: please [7:58pm] • brycec forgot the magic word [7:59pm] ricko73: brycec: *6 ? [7:59pm] ricko73: I believe that's the mute/unmute command [7:59pm] brycec: killall-9 and l-fy What is your background? Where did you come from, what prior experience with telephony do you have? [8:00pm] brycec: ricko73: THANKS [8:00pm] brycec: Gotta step away for a customer call [8:00pm] ricko73: zomg customers! [8:00pm] brycec: ricko73: customer who picks up their phone and hears a strange repeating tone then clicking pattern [8:01pm] • brycec whoosh [8:01pm] imchandave: I-fy: Diana, I have a question about the clustering support of Yate when the discussion wanes.... [8:02pm] Zeeek: jump on in my man, you will have th floor [8:02pm] imchandave: Just waiting until Karl is done... [8:02pm] killall-9: i worked as an electric engineer, then as a programmer (these days microcontrollers are everywhere) and moved to almost exclusively programming [8:02pm] Zeeek: killall-9: you do microprogramming? I know several people who do that [8:03pm] killall-9: happened to program an IVR server for Dialogic cards at the time they offered only a license enforced NT service [8:03pm] Zeeek: interesting [8:04pm] killall-9: no other contacts with telephony until meeting Diana in 2001 [8:04pm] Zeeek: quite a history [8:04pm] l-fy: you meet me in 2000 [8:04pm] Zeeek: how quickly they forget [8:05pm] SparFux left the chat room. ("Leaving.") [8:05pm] killall-9: telephony is not difficult, it's just hardware and software [8:06pm] imchandave: Where are the Pics? [8:06pm] kfife: Diana at Asterisk Tag: http://www.asterisk-tag.org/wiki/Bild:Vortrag-Diana.jpg [8:07pm] brycec: kfife: danke [8:07pm] brycec: "tag" pronounced "tog" [8:07pm] kfife: deutsch [8:07pm] brycec: German [8:08pm] Zeeek: tog, tag... [8:09pm] imchandave: Karl the search wizard :0 [8:09pm] brycec: Did I miss Diana's background in telephony? [8:09pm] kfife: Speaking of boats: Karl about to go upside-down in his Kayak: http://kfife.com/download/yose0041.jpg [8:09pm] l-fy: ask Paul about when him flyed the mig [8:10pm] imchandave: Portable App!! Way to go! [8:11pm] brycec: Interesting results from Google Image search for "Diana Cionoiu", #2 pic, some chick (not Diana) in bondage, from asteriskvoipnews.com [8:11pm] l-fy: http://yate.null.ro/tarballs/yate2/yate2.tar.gz [8:11pm] kfife: Diana said she had other interests. [8:12pm] brycec: kfife: lol [8:12pm] imchandave: Those young'in... [8:12pm] imchandave: [8:12pm] l-fy: kfife: you look great [8:12pm] l-fy: i'm impressed [8:12pm] JimCifarelli: gotta go. Have a great week everyone! Thank you Diana for the intro to YATE [8:13pm] kfife: l-fy: 10ms later I looked like an upside-down boat. [8:13pm] imchandave: That's something you should include in the VUC website: IRC chat log. [8:13pm] l-fy: http://yate.null.ro/pmwiki/index.php?n=Main.Documentation [8:13pm] carrar: yum install asterisk? [8:13pm] carrar: heh [8:13pm] l-fy: carrar: we are talking about yate [8:13pm] carrar: oh [8:13pm] l-fy: carrar: http://yate.null.ro [8:14pm] mib_8v9sbz left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [8:14pm] l-fy: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/etel/2006/06/27/fast-prototyping-of-telephony-applications-with-yate.html [8:15pm] brycec: l-fy: very interesting [8:15pm] kfife: I suspect good documenters are non-existent nearly everywhere [8:15pm] brycec: kfife: Hey I resemble that [8:15pm] kfife: [8:16pm] brycec: I suggest "YateProto" [8:16pm] brycec: spelling? psh [8:16pm] Zeeek: http://tr.im/yateproto [8:17pm] dcdeadbeat: wideband support in yate? [8:17pm] brycec: Gotta run again. Thanks again killall-9 and l-fy ! My suggestion, more examples. [8:17pm] brycec: dcdeadbeat: Relevance, OMG! [8:18pm] l-fy: brycec: on what? [8:19pm] DFrankel: No patents on G.722. [8:19pm] DFrankel: No patents on Speex. [8:19pm] DFrankel: But no "indemnifaction" for Speex. [8:19pm] kfife: nor g.722.1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.722.1 [8:19pm] imchandave: Plenty for G.722. [8:20pm] beek: which speakerphone? [8:21pm] kfife: Perfect + speakerphone = average [8:21pm] imchandave: 1.4 has transformation tables. [8:21pm] imchandave: as does 1.6 [8:21pm] dcdeadbeat: wideband support would win me over [8:22pm] DFrankel: The handset speakerphone on my Gigaset. [8:22pm] Zeeek: ok [8:22pm] imchandave: transformation tables for slinear <-> G.722 for Asterisk 1.4 and 1.6. [8:23pm] DFrankel: There's no money in wideband (currently). [8:23pm] DFrankel: Everybody is amazed. [8:23pm] imchandave: Just differentials [8:24pm] DFrankel: It is indeed a great differentiator. [8:24pm] DFrankel: And people "appreciate it" when they hear it. [8:24pm] imchandave: True. I'm bringing converts with phonerlite + wbdemo@login.zipdx.com. [8:24pm] imchandave: Great demo DFrankel! [8:25pm] ricko73: guys, I gotta drop off. Great call. [8:25pm] l-fy: http://www.freesentral.com/ [8:25pm] Zeeek: ricko73: latuh [8:26pm] imchandave: Not True. [8:26pm] DFrankel: I BEG TO DISAGREE. [8:26pm] l-fy: i'm not a musician [8:26pm] imchandave: In a tonal language, it makes a BIG difference. [8:26pm] imchandave: tonal language = Chinese, Thai, Vietnese, etc. [8:27pm] imchandave: sorry...Beck's getting to me.... [8:27pm] dcdeadbeat: it also makes for better podcasts [8:27pm] imchandave: make sure you use a G.722 client!!! [8:28pm] l-fy: imchandave: my client is not g722 and it sounds good enough for me [8:28pm] imchandave: Press "#" to switch the codec... [8:28pm] l-fy: i can't, yate client doesn't support g722 [8:28pm] imchandave: Use Phonerlite. (http://www.phonerlite.de) [8:28pm] da__d00d: I called wbdemo@ with using both ulaw and g.722 (phonerlite) to compare them. I expected the wideband vs. narrowband audio recordings to sound exactly the same when using ulaw - but they still sound much better. Is recording on wideband, but playing back narrowband supposed to sound better? [8:28pm] l-fy: thanks but i like yateclient [8:29pm] imchandave: yesh. [8:29pm] imchandave: [8:29pm] DFrankel: The narrow-band recording is bandpass filtered to 300-3400 Hz. [8:29pm] imchandave: G.722 patents have expired, so it is freely available. [8:29pm] imchandave: We can wait... [8:29pm] brycec: ricko73: Have a great vacay [8:30pm] dcdeadbeat: she's trying to say that is for paying clients not deadbeats like me? [8:30pm] imchandave: Siemens, polycoms, Cisco... [8:30pm] da__d00d: sure, but shouldn't the bandpass filtering for the playback negate the wider range for the recording? [8:30pm] imchandave: asstra [8:31pm] imchandave: damn...beer getting to me... [8:31pm] _3vian: and snom? [8:31pm] l-fy: dcdeadbeat: it's not only about money, it's about our time (time is the only thing that doesn't gets back no matter what), so tend to consider my time important and i try to not spend it fullishly [8:31pm] DFrankel: Aastra, Shoretel, Avaya [8:31pm] imchandave: yeah! [8:31pm] imchandave: and #hdcomm! [8:31pm] Zeeek: XMPP ? [8:31pm] DFrankel: snom, Grandstream, AudioCodes, AlcaLu [8:32pm] imchandave: Yeah!!! [8:33pm] imchandave: Ohio! [8:33pm] DFrankel: Born in the water? [8:33pm] dcdeadbeat: l-fy: my ex-girlfriend said the same thing about spending time foolishly with me [8:33pm] J-MN: Still here. I'm in MN Get it j-MN [8:33pm] l-fy: dcdeadbeat: well, maybe she had a good reason [8:33pm] J-MN: exactly [8:33pm] brycec: l-fy: Examples for people like Zeeek and myself who, in order to learn something new, take an example configuration (set of files) that perform some function, ilke a basic/simple PBX, and modify to meet our needs. Ideas: Simple call switch with routing from MySQL, Conference bridge, voicemail server, etc. Post it on your website, ask others what they'd like to see? Just my two cents. [8:34pm] imchandave: Yea!!!! [8:34pm] imchandave: Rock Hall of Fame! [8:34pm] imchandave: Indians! [8:37pm] thomas_austria_1 left the chat room. ("Leaving.") [8:40pm] imchandave: codec support is under http://voip.null.ro/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/yate/modules/, right? [8:40pm] l-fy: yes [8:40pm] kfife: Will it run on my commodore vic-20? [8:40pm] kfife: [8:41pm] l-fy: no it won't [8:41pm] kfife: My bad: I upgraded to a Commodore-64 [8:41pm] l-fy: but you can try [8:41pm] kfife: "Upgraded" [8:41pm] imchandave: My Friend Bammi got GNU Emacs running on an ATARI 400... I should ask him... [8:41pm] killall-9: http://yate.null.ro/websvn/listing.php?repname=yate&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fmodules%2F#path_trunk_modules_ [8:42pm] kfife: [8:42pm] kfife: Brilliant girls [8:42pm] imchandave: Are you going to Burn your own Pizza again, Randy? [8:42pm] l-fy: chicks power [8:43pm] imchandave: here, here! [8:43pm] TDF: here here [8:43pm] _3vian: here! here! [8:43pm] l-fy: here here [8:43pm] Zeeek: STAND BY [8:43pm] kfife: there there [8:43pm] killall-9: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=yate [8:43pm] Zeeek: We're not going anywhere [8:44pm] Zeeek: stay with us [8:44pm] kfife: Correct me if I'm wrong, is it not spelled "Hear! Hear!" [8:44pm] imchandave: Yeah! ZipDX!!! [8:44pm] l-fy: you should use yate conference [8:44pm] imchandave: I luuuve that Talkshoe survey!!! [8:45pm] brycec: "This one time, at bandcamp..." [8:47pm] Zeeek: if you were in a band it wouldn't just be one time [8:47pm] kfife: http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Gillespie2005/Highlights/SoCalMig21.jpg [8:49pm] J-MN: Band Joke: What do you call a drummer with no girl friend? [8:49pm] Zeeek: what? [8:49pm] J-MN: Homeless. [8:49pm] imchandave: Can we setup a bounty for Paul to include G.722 in Yate? [8:50pm] imchandave: Can we setup a Bounty for Yate developers to include G.722 in Yate? [8:50pm] l-fy: imchandave: please do so [8:51pm] Zeeek: J-MN: great joke [8:52pm] imchandave: Randy wants Danish Women...I'm telling your wife! [8:52pm] thomas_austria_ joined the chat room. [8:53pm] imchandave: Seriously, we should setup a bounty for G.722 for Yate.... How much would it take to peak interest? [8:53pm] imchandave: I'm looking at the AMRNBcodec right now, and unfortuntately, my C++ is not as good as it use to be... [8:55pm] _3vian: bank clearing is still sepearte [8:55pm] killall-9: imchandave: amr was horrible because of the bit (re)packing [8:55pm] dcdeadbeat left the chat room. [8:56pm] _3vian: 30,000 [8:56pm] imchandave: so, what would be a good reference? I'm looking at ilbccodec.cpp or speexcodec.cpp. [9:03pm] beek: Same here... [9:03pm] _3vian: lol [9:04pm] _3vian: a little competition is always good [9:07pm] CharlesR joined the chat room. [9:09pm] CharlesR: where can i find podcast/episode/? #157? i see #156 [9:10pm] CharlesR: on http://www.voipusersconference.org/2009/05/ [9:13pm] jeff_netspk left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [9:19pm] jameswf joined the chat room. [9:23pm] Zeeek: see if you wzere onZipDX you could be in a private room [9:23pm] Zeeek: careful, I'm listening! [9:23pm] Zeeek: great dinner [9:24pm] CharlesR: where can i find podcast/episode/? #157? i see #156 [9:24pm] Zeeek: stuffed zuchini, [9:24pm] CharlesR: on http://www.voipusersconference.org/2009/05/ [9:24pm] Zeeek: It will be posted when we close this channel [9:24pm] Zeeek: no worries [9:24pm] CharlesR: ok then i was misinformed. thanks [9:25pm] Zeeek: Talkshoe doesn't post the audio until we end [9:25pm] jasonwert left the chat room. ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]") [9:25pm] Zeeek: then I also put a link o,n http://voipusersconference.org [9:25pm] beek: Zeeek: What wine goes with stuffed zuchini? [9:25pm] Zeeek: A white cassis [9:25pm] Zeeek: surprising [9:25pm] packetman left the chat room. [9:25pm] beek: Hmmmm [9:25pm] kfife: yum install stuffed zuchini [9:26pm] Zeeek: it was good [9:26pm] Zeeek: now chocolate [9:26pm] kfife: install fail: unsatisfied dependency upon wine(red). [9:26pm] CharlesR: i was looking for one that mentions collectors using asteriak to tie together very old phone equipment at 38 min into the program. maybe 157 is the wrong number [9:27pm] Zeeek: indeed [9:28pm] Zeeek: I don't remember that one [9:28pm] CharlesR: ok [9:28pm] Zeeek: anyone recall such a topic? [9:28pm] TDF: was it last week ? someone mentioned a man with very old gear ... [9:29pm] • Zeeek looks at the web site [9:29pm] TDF: cant remember the details but vaguely remember something like that [9:29pm] CharlesR: it is likely i know the man they were talking about [9:29pm] Zeeek: Part two is marked #157 [9:29pm] CharlesR: oh ok thanks [9:29pm] Zeeek: it is on http://talkshoe.com [9:30pm] Zeeek: did you look there or http://voipusersconference.org ? [9:30pm] CharlesR: the latter [9:30pm] Zeeek: should be there [9:30pm] CharlesR: ok [9:31pm] Zeeek: under "Askozia PBX" [9:31pm] Zeeek: part 2 was about other stuff [9:31pm] CharlesR: ionly got the first part [9:31pm] CharlesR: going now to get the second [9:33pm] J-MN: j-mn is using it [9:34pm] J-MN: I'm using the phonerlite [9:35pm] imchandave: are you going through an asterisk box or straight SIP to zipdx? [9:35pm] J-MN: straight sip to zipdx [9:35pm] CharlesR: found what i was looking for , thanks [9:35pm] J-MN: I'm muted. [9:35pm] J-MN: self muted [9:36pm] J-MN: my microphone sucks. [9:36pm] l-fy: Randy - private [9:36pm] J-MN: I'm also having drop out issues with my conneciton. [9:36pm] J-MN: Is there a web interface with zipdx to see who is all on the conference? [9:41pm] imchandave: You just need to get a free account with zipdx to get access to the conference interface. [9:42pm] J-MN: Then what do you do? [9:42pm] imchandave: Login to the account. [9:42pm] imchandave: Then the system will tell you the list of conference you have acess to (....) [9:44pm] Zeeek: the ZipDX bridge has a lot of features like private sub rooms, etc [9:44pm] Zeeek: great web interface [9:44pm] J-MN: figured it out. [9:46pm] J-MN: nice web interface. Now I can put a name to the voice! [9:46pm] l-fy: http://yate.null.ro/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=yate&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fshare%2Fscripts%2Fvoicemail.php [9:49pm] J-MN: I'm getting crazy echo issues with this phonerlite so I'm going to disconnect. Have a great weekend! [9:50pm] davevg-btwtech: voiceXML? [9:51pm] J-MN left the chat room. [9:51pm] kfife: like Homer Simpson's "baby translator" [9:53pm] killall-9 left the chat room. ("cd ~") [9:54pm] DaveM_in_CO joined the chat room. [9:54pm] DFrankel: http://www.spinvox.com/ -- they send to India [9:54pm] _3vian left the chat room. [9:57pm] Daviey: http://voxforge.org/ <----- [9:58pm] jtodd joined the chat room. [9:59pm] Zeeek: jtodd: is here to argue for the Indian solution [9:59pm] jtodd: I'm just here to observe your planet, Earthling, not to intervene. [9:59pm] Zeeek: heh [10:00pm] Zeeek: DFrankel: you mean Google sends to India or spinvox send to indeia? [10:02pm] l-fy: http://www.vogalonga.com/ArchivioFoto_vogalonga.asp?FOTO=2006_DSC04715_resize.JPG&ANNO=2006 [10:05pm] jeff_netspk joined the chat room. [10:19pm] leifmadsen left the chat room. ("outtie!") [10:23pm] Zeeek: if I want to see my 30th anniversary, I need to leave now. [10:23pm] kfife: Zeeek: [10:24pm] Zeeek: I think if I leave,n Karl, you could stop the bridge [10:24pm] Zeeek: unfortunately;, I need to stop Talkshoe [10:24pm] Zeeek: and also to learn modern punctuation [10:24pm] kfife: Who's still on TalkShoe? [10:24pm] Zeeek: Daviey [10:25pm] Zeeek: and a few otherds [10:25pm] kfife: Hmm. [10:25pm] kfife: What about Diana? [10:25pm] Zeeek: also on Talkshoe [10:25pm] kfife: Sounds like things would come to a screeching halt. [10:25pm] Zeeek: Well if I leave that up, it will die when ZipDX goes down [10:25pm] kfife: I see. [10:25pm] Zeeek: no I think not [10:26pm] Zeeek: let me see [10:26pm] kfife: I would think not. [10:26pm] DaveM_in_CO: just end the show, and keep the conversation [10:27pm] Zeeek: show's been over for hours! [10:27pm] imchandave: It's all down to tuning for the environment.... [10:28pm] Zeeek: i just hung up so all is well [10:29pm] kfife: Go figure. [10:29pm] Zeeek: dialed in on polycom [10:29pm] Zeeek: because it is zipdx that is dialed in to TS [10:29pm] kfife: I was goign to suggest a scheduled shutdown event AT.... [10:30pm] kfife: So I can end the conf using the admin console for zipdx? [10:31pm] • Daviey toddles off.. same time next week o/ [10:33pm] kfife: ...One service pack update per child. [10:34pm] kfife: I'm calling from antarctica! [10:35pm] beek: Who is heading to Astricon this year? [10:36pm] l-fy: who cares? [10:36pm] l-fy: oscon is the real deal [10:36pm] kfife: Yate-i-con? [10:36pm] beek: I'm heading there as well. [10:36pm] l-fy: oscon [10:36pm] beek: Yes [10:36pm] l-fy: we are a part of the open source community so oscon [10:36pm] kfife: Where's oscon this year? [10:37pm] beek: I think San Diego [10:37pm] kfife: I suggest Chicago for Oscon [10:37pm] l-fy: san jose [10:37pm] kfife: Bot. [10:38pm] kfife: a bot [10:38pm] l-fy: xmpp summit [10:40pm] da__d00d left the chat room. (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D") [10:41pm] l-fy left the chat room. ("Leaving") [10:43pm] beek: Do you want this log? [10:51pm] DFrankel left the chat room. (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [10:53pm] dburgess00 left the chat room.