[6:00pm] jtodd: Tiara?  Crown?  This is all crazy talk.
[6:00pm] jtodd: Whose birthday?
[6:00pm] fred-tmft: Michael White's
[6:00pm] DaveM_in_CO: and he burnt his own cake.
[6:00pm] fred-tmft:                          
[6:00pm] jtodd: Ah.  According to Facebook,it's also Allison's birthday.
[6:00pm] NirS: yes it is
[6:00pm] kfife: His tooth is getting a new Tiara.
[6:00pm] jtodd: And Jared Smith.
[6:01pm] JimCifarelli joined the chat room.
[6:01pm] kfife: Wow!  It's voipirtdhay
[6:01pm] Zeeek: And that's LIFE
[6:01pm] DFrankel: Randy, the reason ZipDX didn't call you is because you were already in the conferece.
[6:01pm] brycec joined the chat room.
[6:01pm] bertramt_ joined the chat room.
[6:02pm] Linuturk: has the conference started?
[6:02pm] NirS: yes
[6:02pm] DaveM_in_CO: conference is still going from last week.
[6:02pm] Linuturk: hmmm
[6:02pm] dcdeadbeat: i don't think it ever really ends
[6:02pm] Linuturk: fred-tmft: no audio on my end using your exten
[6:02pm] Linuturk: weird
[6:03pm] fred-tmft: odd... you have anything in sip.conf blocking/preventing?
[6:04pm] jameswf joined the chat room.
[6:04pm] jameswf: welcome to the largest room name on IRC
[6:04pm] markwaters joined the chat room.
[6:04pm] Linuturk: g.711 is ulaw, right?
[6:05pm] freckle: yep
[6:05pm] dlewis left the chat room.
[6:05pm] Daviey: Zeeek: linky?
[6:05pm] Linuturk: dtmfmode=rfc2833
[6:05pm] freckle: ok
[6:05pm] NirS: for some reason, when ever I dialin, I'm in one way audio
[6:05pm] freckle: how youi dialling in?
[6:05pm] Zeeek: NirS: damn voip doesn't work
[6:06pm] kfife:        http://coretel.ca/jb/    
[6:06pm] Linuturk: hmmm. I don't have to define talkshow in sip.conf, right fred-tmft ?
[6:06pm] NirS: I've got Zoiper on my PC, then Asterisk dials directly into the conference via SIP
[6:06pm] Zeeek: what URI are you calling?
[6:06pm] freckle: Linuturk: no need to have sip.conf entry
[6:07pm] Zeeek: try talkshoe@vuc.onsip.com and enter the numbers there
[6:07pm] jervin: Nirs, Could be a router port forwarding problem?
[6:07pm] Linuturk: exten => *10,1,NoOp(VoIP Users Conference Fridays at 12pm EST. Replace YOURPIN with your talkshoe pin)
[6:07pm] NirS: naaa, all my normal traffic works just fine
[6:07pm] Linuturk: exten => *10,n,SIPAddHeader(Subject: <passcode>22622</passcode><pin>nnnnnnnnnn2</pin>)
[6:07pm] Linuturk: exten => *10,n,Dial(SIP/talkshoe@vuc.onsip.com)
[6:08pm] freckle: port forwarding uck!!!use a decent provider and you dont need it
[6:08pm] Linuturk: there's my exten
[6:08pm] DaveM_in_CO: what was that blog URL?
[6:08pm] DaveM_in_CO: nevermind
[6:08pm] kfife: ...A lot of help
[6:08pm] freckle: Linuturk: this is what I have exten => _**8,1,Dial(SIP/123@66.212.134.192,120,tr)
[6:09pm] ricko73: and there he was ...gone
[6:09pm] ricko73: I can here you
[6:09pm] ricko73: hear too
[6:09pm] ricko73: JimVanM: we can't hear you
[6:09pm] kfife: Quizzing, Quizzing, 1,2,3
[6:09pm] Daviey: shout louder
[6:09pm] fred-tmft: linuturk... just tested that again... it's working for me on another box
[6:09pm] Daviey: NAT \o/
[6:09pm] • Linuturk sighs
[6:09pm] jameswf: Hazard of using Asterisk.... COUGH
[6:10pm] fred-tmft: does the console display any messages for you?
[6:10pm] Daviey: jameswf: Using Asterisk here 
[6:10pm] Linuturk: fred-tmft: yes
[6:10pm] JimVanM: I just got cut off
[6:11pm] Linuturk: http://pastebin.com/m66a5be58 fred-tmft
[6:11pm] J-MN joined the chat room.
[6:11pm] jervin: In my experiencing, teleconferencing in general is always like this.
[6:11pm] jervin: sorry for any echo.
[6:11pm] NirS: Linu, that didn't work for me
[6:11pm] NirS:                          
[6:12pm] Zeeek: NirS:  try now
[6:12pm] kfife: How do your clients know where to register?
[6:13pm] NirS: let's try again
[6:13pm] kfife: Are you doing something like CARP?
[6:13pm] ricko73: grrr!  speaking of failing internet.  I'll be back in about 30 minutes.
[6:13pm] kfife: 89.9999% uptime
[6:13pm] Zeeek: http://amoocon.de  for the videos and slides
[6:13pm] kfife: We promise nine fives!
[6:13pm] mjgraves: Disaster planning is critical
[6:14pm] JimVanM:        www.amoocon.de    
[6:14pm] mjgraves: so the new aspect is failover...using appliances?
[6:15pm] Zeeek:        http://www.amoocon.de/users/25    
[6:15pm] kfife: Nortel MICS/CICS
[6:15pm] Zeeek:        http://www.coretel.ca/jb/    
[6:16pm] Zeeek: and TFOT: http://tr.im/mO85
[6:16pm] Linuturk: "SIP/7463#22622#nnnnnnnnnn@proxy.ideasip.com" << doesn't work either
[6:16pm] • jsmith is late bug here
[6:16pm] Zeeek: Jared Smith on the call
[6:16pm] jsmith: s/bug/but/
[6:16pm] jsmith: Yeah, I'm here
[6:16pm] jameswf: Failover and HA seems to be back in fashion I imagine IT folks are starting to regain their budgets. We have gotten several request for Failovers over the last week...
[6:17pm] Zeeek: you muted yourself?
[6:17pm] • Linuturk waves at jsmith
[6:17pm] kfife:        http://www.mini-itx.com/    
[6:17pm] jsmith: Zeeek: Aye... loud hum on my analog phone
[6:17pm] jsmith: Zeeek: Silly telcos...
[6:17pm] Zeeek: ooooooo noooooooo
[6:17pm] NirS: For some silly reason, I can't seem to talk
[6:17pm] MicroChip32 joined the chat room.
[6:17pm] mjgraves: the netbook wave meets telephony
[6:17pm] Zeeek: NirS: did I just unmute you
[6:17pm] Zeeek: ?
[6:17pm] kfife: 2.5" Hard drive MTBF about half of a 3.5"
[6:18pm] mjgraves: HD = bad
[6:18pm] jameswf: Google wave + Asterisk... coming soon....
[6:18pm] MicroChip32: is that the fitpc that he was referencing ?
[6:18pm] mjgraves: Flash = Good
[6:18pm] mjgraves: FitPC2 looks VERY interesting
[6:18pm] MicroChip32: mjgraves : very very
[6:18pm] mjgraves: are they shipping?
[6:18pm] ricko73: back
[6:19pm] mjgraves: might need one to play with
[6:19pm] kfife: NO
[6:19pm] bertramt left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[6:19pm] MicroChip32: put this with the fitpc2 ... http://www.microvision.com/showwx/index.html
[6:20pm] brycec: Zeeek: Talkshoe keeps insisting I'm on the call, but I'm not, am long hung-up. Anything you can do to "kick me" so I can listen to the streaming web?
[6:20pm] Zeeek: brycec:  no nothing I can do to kick calls
[6:20pm] jameswf:        http://fit-pc2.com    
[6:20pm] Zeeek: you may need to kill the java client
[6:20pm] brycec: Zeeek: thanks anyways
[6:20pm] ricko73: sip registrations fail when the internet goes down for extended periods of time (even with local dns caching)
[6:20pm] brycec: Zeeek: I have
[6:20pm] brycec: Zeeek: quit the browser and all
[6:21pm] MicroChip32: the fitpc is supposed to be compatable with all common os stuff
[6:21pm] brycec: Zeeek: Hey there we go!
[6:21pm] Zeeek: Ah. Well that's Talkshoe. Call in with #1 or another PIN
[6:21pm] MicroChip32: key word being supposed-to
[6:21pm] Zeeek: oh, long timeout
[6:21pm] kfife: Fanless ATOM mini ITX plus enclosure; http://www.logicsupply.com/products/lf_gs_l05
[6:21pm] mjgraves: snom 820 just locked on me
[6:22pm] brycec: Zeeek: very. Now I can listen on my computer, turn the volume up to 150% so I can actually hear Jim
[6:22pm] dcdeadbeat: mjgraves:  when did you get a 820?
[6:22pm] nabeelj: geode was the first option for x86 solutions... atom is the next "gen" of that type of solution
[6:22pm] mjgraves: on loan from e4
[6:22pm] kfife: LogicSupply from my home town!
[6:22pm] mjgraves: was giving them trouble too
[6:22pm] kfife: That's because its fanless
[6:23pm] kfife: $400 computer 10¢ fan incompatible encoding
[6:23pm] kfife: broken fan = offline
[6:24pm] Zeeek: anyone need to be UNmuted?
[6:24pm] nabeelj: mjgraves: we've had issues with the 820 as well
[6:24pm] kfife: embedded becomes a funny line these days.
[6:24pm] dicodread joined the chat room.
[6:24pm] mjgraves: back on the call now
[6:25pm] outtolunc joined the chat room.
[6:25pm] • NirS NirS-away-Dinner
[6:25pm] Zeeek: k
[6:26pm] kfife: What about solid state drives?  2.5" drives have DOUBLE the failure rate of a 3.5" drive
[6:26pm] mjgraves: noise & heat output!
[6:26pm] ricko73: compact flash with ASTLinux
[6:26pm] jasonwert: The life of SSD is much shorter
[6:27pm] brycec: Trusty ol' CF
[6:27pm] Zeeek: I feel like standing in line at the Calif DMV is 1.5 million hours
[6:27pm] • outtolunc refills his coffee waiting for shoephone to stop buffering <G>
[6:28pm] • brycec has had both drives in a RAID1 fail simultaneously, very annoying
[6:28pm] jameswf: debate: Hardware vs Software raid
[6:28pm] brycec: jameswf: Hard
[6:28pm] • Daviey wonders why people think Hardware RAID is better 
[6:28pm] Zeeek: Talkshoe 19, ZipDX 14 callers, 2 streamers = 35 human units
[6:28pm] jameswf: not lately
[6:28pm] Daviey: for RAID-1 at least
[6:28pm] mjgraves: hardware, always
[6:28pm] MicroChip32: also less cooling applied to laptop drives typically
[6:29pm] Daviey: High IO, with more than 2 disks i use hardware RAID
[6:29pm] brycec: I like moving the RAID overhead (striping, etc) outside the OS, leave it to the controller
[6:29pm] Daviey: for anything else i use software raid
[6:29pm] mjgraves: CF is the major reason I went into AstLinux
[6:29pm] Zeeek: I prefer Roach Motel to RAID
[6:29pm] Daviey: in my situations software raid is BETTER
[6:29pm] fred-tmft: solid state is so nice for heat reduction
[6:29pm] brycec: Software RAID is nice because you can take the drives "anywhere" and use 'em
[6:29pm] bertramt joined the chat room.
[6:29pm] Daviey: brycec: RAID-1 doesn't use striping, and i fail to see why an average PBX needs anything other than RAID-1
[6:30pm] ricko73: laptop drives are not intended for continual operation either
[6:30pm] dcdeadbeat: yes but traditional hard drives are cheaper to recover data from than solid stated drives
[6:30pm] jameswf: ricko73: built a whole solution around flash...
[6:30pm] ricko73: there are 2.5" drives that do have continual operation ratings, but not very cheap
[6:30pm] brycec: Daviey: I was speaking generally, and I agree RAID1 is really all that should be needed, though I might argue that having a hot or cold standby instead of a RAID1
[6:31pm] ricko73: jameswf: thanks for the AstLinux plug
[6:31pm] Daviey: brycec: RAID-1 with 2 disks, and a spare?
[6:31pm] brycec: Speaking as a manufacturer... we can't really even get smaller than 160 anymore, not cheaply
[6:31pm] voipsupply joined the chat room.
[6:31pm] brycec: Daviey: I meant phone system, not drive
[6:32pm] Zeeek: voipsupply: hello
[6:32pm] brycec: Daviey: Two systems with one drive each, perhaps some drbd in between
[6:32pm] voipsupply: hi there
[6:32pm] Zeeek: Karl's voice sounds so good in g722. Yay Karl!
[6:32pm] jameswf: considering alot of these places like "Fry's electronics" hire some pretty thick folks for minimum wage my guess is you cant walk in and ask for much of anything inteligent..
[6:32pm] mjgraves: software raid on windows blows!
[6:33pm] mjgraves: I've had huge problems with Quicktime killing Server2003, and killing RAID1 boot volumes
[6:33pm] brycec: If the host HW fails, whether you're running RAID1 or not doesn't matter anymore, you're still down
[6:33pm] fred-tmft: I just hate software raid 100%
[6:33pm] dcdeadbeat: i actually wrote an NTFS driver for DR-DOS
[6:34pm] Zeeek: anyone need to be unmuted?
[6:34pm] brycec: kfife: No issues either way.
[6:34pm] Zeeek: anyone need to call g722 bridge?
[6:34pm] jsmith: Actually, many of the HW raid systems are more prone to problems than Linux software RAID
[6:34pm] jameswf: linux doesn't have a BSOD
[6:34pm] kfife: brycec: so you can lose either drive but still boot?
[6:34pm] NirS: Randy, I just logged into ZipDX
[6:34pm] nabeelj: we're so off-topic!
[6:34pm] Zeeek: damn these guys sound like they know what they're talking about when they use g722
[6:35pm] nabeelj:                          
[6:35pm] Zeeek: NirS: and can we hear you?
[6:35pm] brycec: Windows' software RAID is typically is written by the vendor. Linux software RAID is the same stack for all systems
[6:35pm] ricko73: anyone else hear that bird in the background?
[6:35pm] NirS: I don't know
[6:35pm] Zeeek: what bird?
[6:35pm] jameswf: my new Citel does g722 but its at home...
[6:35pm] NirS: hadn't talked yet
[6:35pm] brycec: ricko73: Thought it was here... 
[6:35pm] NirS: I'll cough and tell me if you hear it
[6:35pm] Zeeek: NirS: hold you ... and hahahahhaa
[6:35pm] Zeeek: yes
[6:35pm] NirS: subtle, no ?
[6:35pm] Zeeek: very
[6:36pm] jameswf: I heard smoker cough
[6:36pm] NirS: so, ZipDX works for me
[6:36pm] nabeelj: any info on performance limitations on atom platforms?
[6:36pm] jameswf: is that swine flu
[6:36pm] dicodread: is there a free g722 client for ubuntu I could try.. I want to experience this difference you guys keep talking about
[6:36pm] NirS: the problem is, I don't smoke !
[6:36pm] Zeeek: NirS: buit are you in g722?
[6:36pm] NirS: no, it's called: Season's changing in Israel
[6:36pm] NirS: yes
[6:36pm] Zeeek: Great!
[6:36pm] NirS: well, not entirely
[6:36pm] NirS: the phone isn't, but Asterisk is
[6:36pm] NirS: so I'm transcoding
[6:36pm] Zeeek: who is typing away?
[6:36pm] mib_cj61iz joined the chat room.
[6:36pm] NirS: looks like my Asterisk DEV box can do g722 well
[6:36pm] NirS: me
[6:36pm] jameswf: A birdie tells me we are about to do some big things in Isreal
[6:37pm] kfife: ...and if they're small and cheap like these quasi-embeddes systems, two machines are no problem!
[6:37pm] jameswf: *israel
[6:37pm] Zeeek: What is real and what is not?
[6:37pm] NirS: James, please elaborate
[6:37pm] kfife: $400 computer $2 power supply
[6:37pm] Zeeek: ZipDX: 17 TS: 19 Stream: 1
[6:37pm] brycec: Take Google for instance... no redundancy inside the machine, just lots of redundant machines
[6:37pm] jameswf: NirS: not sure I can.... don't know what is "leakable"
[6:37pm] Zeeek: Google has had a bad week
[6:38pm] brycec: Zeeek: Hm? In terms of services? I have no outages or anything of the like
[6:38pm] Zeeek: TS:17 ZipDX:17 !!!
[6:38pm] fred-tmft: been there
[6:38pm] • brycec wonders if Zeeek is a bot
[6:38pm] ricko73: Zeeek: you sound like an auctioneer
[6:39pm] fred-tmft: that's why I fell inlove with heartbeet
[6:39pm] Zeeek: no Google has had major outages
[6:39pm] fred-tmft: *beat
[6:39pm] kfife: Zeek: Is that a record?
[6:39pm] Zeeek: not that affected me, but it's been said
[6:39pm] outtolunc: ts:18
[6:39pm] Zeeek: Quick someone call ZipDX
[6:39pm] jameswf: google released Wave so all is forgiven... wait nm
[6:40pm] nabeelj: that's the key thing - this is a sol'n for small businesses...
[6:40pm] • ricko73 starts the wave
[6:40pm] Zeeek: ZipDX:19 Talkshoe:17 !
[6:41pm] imchandave joined the chat room.
[6:41pm] nabeelj left the chat room. ("Java user signed off")
[6:41pm] Zeeek: imchandave: hey now
[6:41pm] Zeeek: ZipDX:20 TS: 16 !!!! Go ZipDX!
[6:42pm] kfife: Zeeek: wow!
[6:43pm] imchandave: Howdy all...just got my son to sleep.
[6:43pm] Zeeek: Ewwwww hardware
[6:43pm] DFrankel: There are a few people on ZipDX that are not wideband.
[6:43pm] kfife: JIM: Can you speak to the method you use to have the client endpoints know to register with the alternate server?  Is that endpoint specific?
[6:43pm] Zeeek: that's cheating!
[6:43pm] DFrankel: And of course you're counting Talkshoe-ZipDX connection on each bridge.
[6:43pm] Zeeek: true!
[6:44pm] Zeeek: and I'm dialed in twice on ZipDX
[6:44pm] Zeeek: what's the record though? More than 20?
[6:44pm] brycec: I'd like to be on WB... my Asterisk doesn't have support for G722 though (and the phones here are behind an unrouteable VLAN)
[6:44pm] DFrankel: Eli Yitzhaki is not wideband, "Extension 1001" is not wideband.
[6:44pm] Zeeek: Eli should be NirS
[6:44pm] NirS: that is correct
[6:44pm] Zeeek: he said he was
[6:44pm] DFrankel: Well, he's mistaken.
[6:44pm] NirS: I'm changing that
[6:45pm] • brycec remembers those FXO days, and turning them around single-handedly 
[6:45pm] NirS: let's do something
[6:45pm] Zeeek: NirS: we are sending 220vac down the line so you'd better
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[6:45pm] Zeeek: NirS: wait til part 2 for the tests, in 15 mln or so.
[6:45pm] Zeeek: NirS: btw, did you  get the crib?
[6:46pm] NirS: yes
[6:46pm] NirS: it arrived today
[6:46pm] kfife: And you can use a Rhino SFP or something like it to get your analog loops to fail over to the redundant box
[6:46pm] Zeeek: congrats!
[6:46pm] DFrankel: Zeeek, you know the little loudspeaker in the ZipDX dashboard indicates wideband.
[6:46pm] brycec: thanks kfife
[6:46pm] Zeeek: I probably did in my youth 
[6:46pm] kfife: None necessary.  It's a great device
[6:46pm] Daviey: not uncommon
[6:47pm] Zeeek: Reminder, Jim's presentation at AMOOCON: http://www.amoocon.de/users/25
[6:47pm] Daviey: remember that COTS servers, are cheaper to make than PRI cards that sell in much lower volume
[6:47pm] fred-tmft: great idea
[6:47pm] imchandave: DFrankel: is there any way to subscribe to the VUC conference? I keep on having to input the conference number everytime I dial in with my account.
[6:47pm] brycec: Zeeek: Link?
[6:47pm] Zeeek:        http://www.coretel.ca/    
[6:48pm] brycec: I meant about that Montr?al deal
[6:48pm] kfife: ubermini blade server
[6:48pm] Zeeek: imchandave: contact me
[6:48pm] Daviey: A Russian cracking company runs a cracking app on the graphics card, to try and break pgp
[6:48pm] DFrankel: Sure, you can subscribe. It's $50/month.
[6:48pm] Daviey: that's nuts 
[6:48pm] imchandave: Zeeek: OK. Thanks.
[6:48pm] brycec: brb
[6:48pm] kfife: Sorry: übermini incompatible encoding
[6:48pm] mjgraves: so very S100 like
[6:49pm] kfife: welcome darth
[6:49pm] DFrankel: Hey, Zeeek, you just cost me $50....
[6:49pm] markwaters:        http://www.bigfootnetworks.com/killer-nic-k1/    
[6:49pm] Zeeek: Gotta love the inside humor
[6:50pm] mib_cj61iz left the chat room. ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
[6:50pm] mjgraves:        http://www.prlog.org/10242259-positron-releases-asterisk-based-embedded-pbx-pci-adapter.html    
[6:50pm] jervin: I almost never talk
[6:50pm] mjgraves: the embedded Asterisk PCI card
[6:50pm] Zeeek: jervin: you'll need to be unmuted if you ever want to 
[6:50pm] jameswf: the PBX on a card was from positron and they don't seem to be for sale anywhere...
[6:51pm] mjgraves:        http://www.positrontelecom.com/en/prod_details.php?id=prod1229540276&c=125&s=131    
[6:51pm] bertramt_ joined the chat room.
[6:51pm] Zeeek: ZipDX: 17 Talkshoe: 15 NOT counting the bridged channel
[6:52pm] Zeeek: astDB
[6:52pm] jameswf: I was mildly ammused by positron, there distributors and resellers don't claim to sell any of their stuff. I am thinking it is vaporware
[6:52pm] Zeeek: positron? Isn't that from Asimov ?
[6:52pm] Zeeek: The robot's positronic brain?
[6:53pm] jameswf: ACME?
[6:53pm] NirS: Ok, now I'm wideband
[6:53pm] jasonwert: US Robotics
[6:53pm] NirS is now known as NirS-Dinner-Away.
[6:53pm] DFrankel: Yes, so you are!
[6:53pm] _ShrikE joined the chat room.
[6:54pm] jameswf: I would so my a Rumba if I had carpet,
[6:54pm] jameswf: wood floors much better for animals
[6:54pm] jervin: U.S. Robots and Mechanical Men Ltd.
[6:54pm] jameswf: Jared is such a newb
[6:54pm] dicodread: for the embedded system how do you deal with g729
[6:54pm] kfife: Are you kidding?  Jared has the ANSWERS, not the questions!!
[6:54pm] jameswf: 1.6 book?
[6:54pm] fred-tmft:        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Robots_and_Mechanical_Men    
[6:55pm] jsmith: Me?  Answers?
[6:55pm] jsmith: Are you kidding?
[6:55pm] Zeeek: 42
[6:55pm] kfife: jsmith: 
[6:55pm] jameswf: I love astlinux cause every time someone says it I hear ASS-Linux...
[6:55pm] • jsmith likes AstLinux\
[6:56pm] Zeeek: Astlinux is a major sponsor of the VUC
[6:56pm] Zeeek: In fact, check is in the mail from them
[6:56pm] Zeeek: as it has been for the last two years
[6:56pm] jameswf: Zeeek: International mail gone horribly wrong
[6:56pm] ricko73: Zeeek: we're waiting for your check
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[6:57pm] mib_e1g5b5: thoughts on freeswitch vs asterisk?
[6:57pm] jameswf: Zeeek: ricko73 I have some friends in the netherlands who will send you a "cashiers check"
[6:57pm] jsmith: Zeeek: You said you had another question on the book?
[6:57pm] jameswf: did someone say Astlinux
[6:57pm] mjgraves: or Yate!
[6:57pm] Zeeek: it was about the Cookbook?
[6:58pm] Zeeek: Is there such a thing?
[6:58pm] Zeeek: I heard there was
[6:58pm] jsmith: Zeeek: There's still a cookbook in the works, but nobody is doing any active writing for it
[6:58pm] • brycec likes booting and running straight from ramdisk
[6:58pm] ricko73: jameswf: Ok.  When I cash the one from Nigeria, I'll get you your change
[6:58pm] Zeeek: I swore I saw an Asterisk Cookbook on Amazon!
[6:58pm] DaveM_in_CO: anyone interested in asterphone.com domain - it could be yours.
[6:58pm] jsmith: Zeeek: I rounded up 10 or 15 recipes from Digium folk, but nobody else seems to be putting any other effort in it
[6:58pm] jameswf: Can I request inclusion of Bacon based recipes in the cook book
[6:58pm] Zeeek: which confused me totally
[6:58pm] ricko73: backup backup backup
[6:58pm] jsmith: DaveM_in_CO: I'll take it, if it's cheap
[6:59pm] DFrankel: Who is that talking?
[6:59pm] jsmith: jameswf: Everything is better with bacon... if you like bacon.
[6:59pm] ricko73: "Bring out yer dead"!
[6:59pm] ricko73: hmmm bacon
[6:59pm] Zeeek: HAHAHHAA
[6:59pm] jameswf: I'm not dead yet
[6:59pm] kfife: S.M.A.R.T systems S.U.C.K.
[6:59pm] ricko73: or "Bring out your dead, eh?"
[6:59pm] kfife: S.M.A.R.T has NEVER accurately predicted a HDD failure for us.
[6:59pm] Zeeek: true
[6:59pm] brycec: My boss would love to hear that "we're going to have a failure" 
[6:59pm] Zeeek: but it looks good
[6:59pm] ricko73: kfife: I've seen it happen twice
[7:00pm] kfife: You've seen it predict?
[7:00pm] brycec: SMART helped ONCE
[7:00pm] ricko73: yes twice in 10+ years
[7:00pm] Zeeek: SMART: "Oh God... Oh God... Oh Goooooooooooooood!" (silence)
[7:00pm] Daviey: most people don't enabled smart monitoring on servers, in my experience
[7:00pm] brycec: Even so, I ignored the message and let the drive run itself into the ground
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[7:00pm] Zeeek: heh
[7:00pm] jameswf: Funny I usualy know a drive has gone when I hear a grinding noise!
[7:00pm] kfife: I've seen it predict, but I'm ALWAYS running hardware RAID, and they NEVER seem to fail.  Yet the ones that DO fail never give warning.
[7:01pm] Zeeek: more a shearing noise like a bandsaw
[7:01pm] Daviey: good luck with that jameswf, in a datacentre 
[7:01pm] jameswf: there are 10 types of people in this world, those who back up and those who have never had to
[7:01pm] brycec: jameswf: shortly before it impacts the ground?
[7:01pm] brycec: Daviey: What??? CAn you speak up, it's very noisy in here 
[7:01pm] kfife: ...in other words, I'll let a SMART drive keep running despite warning in a mirrored volume.  I've got one that's been 'pending failure' for over a year.
[7:02pm] alrs:        http://www.baarf.com/    
[7:02pm] Zeeek: ZDX: 18, TS:14
[7:02pm] Daviey: brycec: 
[7:03pm] jameswf: No one wants to be the Maytag man
[7:03pm] kfife: alrs: LOL!!! http://www.baarf.com/
[7:03pm] mjgraves: hey!
[7:03pm] jameswf: Cough trixbox Cough
[7:03pm] Zeeek: but we all are Maytag men
[7:03pm] mjgraves: I WAS a Maytag man!
[7:03pm] brycec: Daviey: also, my thick parka hood muffles a lot of sound
[7:03pm] mib_e1g5b5: interesting take on your customers
[7:03pm] mjgraves: as a teenager
[7:03pm] Zeeek: I woked at Chicken Delight
[7:04pm] ricko73: jameswf: trix are for kids
[7:04pm] alrs: trixbox paid my wage in '07
[7:05pm] Daviey: lowering the barrier makes our job harder to sell it 
[7:05pm] kfife: BAARF - We've had bad luck with raid 10.  Maybe it should be BAARFT, with the T standing for raid TEN
[7:05pm] jameswf: people often ask me which Asterisk Distro I use... I chuckle a little and say no
[7:06pm] • jameswf has found .conf files faster than a gui.
[7:06pm] jameswf: Druid is sexy though...
[7:07pm] jsmith: My analog phone list is the exception to the rule... it fails all the time, and is pretty much awful right now
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[7:07pm] brycec: I saw a cordless phone with that in mind, small lead-acid battery backup
[7:07pm] brycec: POE + UPS
[7:08pm] jameswf: I have no pstn in my house, power goes out I am screwed... have to power phone + server + modem + router...
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[7:08pm] DaveM_in_CO: I use a diesel generator for power backup on my smoke signal comm system
[7:08pm] Daviey: you'd need juicy UPS to keep a site going.. 
[7:09pm] _ShrikE: mjgraves: Like this? http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-poe/dt-poe-01.html
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[7:09pm] DFrankel: mgraves: or this http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WAPPOE12
[7:10pm] brycec: Or E.M.P. from some other source
[7:10pm] brycec: or solar flares
[7:10pm] kfife: APC =  A Piece of Crap
[7:10pm] kfife: We had 3 power outage events in the last decade, all of which CAUSED by our UPS.
[7:11pm] kfife: our APC ups
[7:11pm] kfife: We now only use Eaton/Powerware
[7:13pm] jameswf: quit complaining canada you have free healthcare
[7:13pm] DFrankel: But everything in Canada is in Canadian dollars...so its the same as free.
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[7:13pm] da__d00d: not free.    paid for via taxes,  and you pay dearly with your time if you want anything
[7:13pm] jameswf: canada has no internet money
[7:13pm] DaveM_in_CO: no, POE splitter needs to pull power off POE so you can connect to LV in of non POE device.
[7:14pm] kfife: It's free now, but I've heard it'
[7:14pm] kfife: is going to double.
[7:14pm] kfife:                          
[7:14pm] jameswf: da__d00d: I don't buy it people want it so bad in the US it and they hate taxes sooo.. that doesn't add up
[7:14pm] jsmith: Well, you *can* send your Caller*ID name on a PRI here in the US, the telco just *almost always* overwrites it, and the telco on the far end typically rewrites it again (after doing a database dip)
[7:16pm] jameswf: sms in asterisk
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[7:16pm] jsmith: jameswf: Well, the biggest problem with SMS is getting connected to the closed network
[7:17pm] _3vian: visual voicemail?
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[7:17pm] brycec: jsmith: Whether the far-end does that lookup usually depends on how far. International: always. Inter-state: almost always. Intra-state: pretty rare.
[7:17pm] fred-tmft: i think they don't have attention span for communication > 140 characters
[7:18pm] jameswf: yay twitter
[7:18pm] Zeeek: TFOT
[7:18pm] ricko73: man that's a bad connection
[7:18pm] jsmith: ricko73: It is... which is why I keep muting myself
[7:18pm] ricko73: sucks when the guests are on a bad connections
[7:18pm] jervin: Yeah, Text messaging support by asterisk would be cool.
[7:19pm] ricko73: jsmith: what are you using?
[7:19pm] brycec: jervin: I hear it's possible with Asterisk + BT (british telecom)
[7:19pm] ricko73: Asterisk, the future of telepathy
[7:19pm] brycec: ricko73: lol
[7:19pm] jameswf: outbound SMS could be done easily via AGI. Most networks allow email.
[7:20pm] jervin: Some sort of Bluetooth like interface that you carry around with you.
[7:20pm] jsmith: ricko73: analog line, 26926 feet from the CO... with no grounding on the line, and three weeks worth of harassing the phone company
[7:20pm] ricko73: jsmith: egads!
[7:20pm] jsmith: jameswf: Right, but that doesn't allow for responses, etc.
[7:20pm] brycec: I know that bt has an out-of-band method of doing SMS to the home, and I think Asterisk's original SMS capabilities were built around that
[7:21pm] jsmith: brycec: Correct
[7:21pm] brycec: Zeeek: And YouMail
[7:22pm] _3vian: young folks...  i consider myself young and i don't text!  just email me i have it on all devices and my voicemail goes to email, so close to visual voicemail...
[7:22pm] jameswf: you could do bidirectional potential with chan_mobile and tracking the responses like nat based on src dest address tracking...
[7:22pm] jsmith: How many people get sick and tired of going to leave a voicemail for someone, and having to listen to the instructions on how to leave a message?
[7:22pm] jervin is now known as jervin-away.
[7:22pm] jsmith: You think we'd know how to leave a voicemail by now.
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[7:22pm] ricko73: jsmith: or someone calling, leaving a message that says "call me" with no further details
[7:22pm] kfife: jsmith: amen brother
[7:22pm] brycec: jsmith: That's why I always try and press # to skip
[7:22pm] kfife: message after the what??
[7:23pm] imchandave: talkshoe chat doesn't interface with the IRC channel.
[7:23pm] jsmith: kfife: You really want me to leave my name, the time, and a message?
[7:23pm] imchandave: You are missing a lot of the messages...
[7:23pm] imchandave: Sorry, wrong window....
[7:24pm] jervin-away: Now I can talk now that I'm not being recorded?
[7:24pm] jameswf: should have the voice mail app capture the caller ID and say yeah we know who you are hang up and we will call you back..
[7:24pm] brycec: And that's a wrap!
[7:24pm] • jsmith has to drop off and get back to work as well
[7:24pm] jervin-away is now known as jervin.
[7:24pm] brycec: jameswf: That was the idea behind "press 5 to page them"
[7:24pm] _3vian: beautiful!
[7:24pm] worldmikel: somebody has a life? :O)
[7:24pm] jsmith: Zeeek: I didn't know that wine came in a can like that...
[7:24pm] • jsmith taunts Zeeek
[7:25pm] kfife: yeah, leave the TIME because my VM doesn't provied it 
[7:25pm] jameswf: I once saw Water in a can
[7:25pm] • jsmith re-mutes
[7:25pm] jsmith: (noisy line)
[7:25pm] brycec: jameswf: me too
[7:25pm] brycec: on airplanes
[7:26pm] jameswf: I like dehydrated water, Just add water..
[7:26pm] jervin: I don't see a use for switched voice if the internet is available
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[7:27pm] Zeeek: I had to go finally recharge my S675IP
[7:27pm] jervin: Kind of like the death of Cobol
[7:27pm] Zeeek: no COBOL is really dea
[7:27pm] jameswf: Copper is only last mile anymore
[7:28pm] jameswf: With Fiber to the curb copper is not even last mile anymore
[7:28pm] jervin: dea, is that 3/4ths dead
[7:28pm] _3vian: isn't already packet???
[7:29pm] Zeeek: D
[7:29pm] Zeeek: like my phone battery
[7:29pm] jervin: reminds me to plug my phone into the charger
[7:30pm] jameswf: U.S. Tech is going to be govt conteolled we now have a cyber czar
[7:30pm] dicodread: am i mute?
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[7:31pm] jervin: They keep saying Cellular will take away all of the home connections
[7:31pm] brycec: LMAO
[7:31pm] brycec: T-Mobile has a nifty "add home phone service for $10/mo" deal, I think via a cellular ATA
[7:31pm] brycec: DARTH!!!
[7:31pm] _3vian: lol
[7:31pm] jameswf: people are more likely to drop their home line than cell or broadband
[7:31pm] jsmith: jameswf: Correct
[7:32pm] jameswf: I have not had a traditional telco line in 3 years...
[7:32pm] brycec: jameswf: If only I could convince the ONE user of cable TV in my house..
[7:32pm] jervin: I've used a PDA for years and I still take notes on paper.
[7:33pm] _3vian: the QoS for pure VoIP might not be there?  How about 2 packet networks?
[7:33pm] jameswf: I do everything on my computer but I still can't manage to do E-Books have to have a hard copy..
[7:33pm] brycec: jervin: Obviously the PDA designer failed then, they haven't created somethign as easy and convenient
[7:33pm] jameswf: email should deffinately eliminate FAX
[7:33pm] jervin: I can write a LOT faster with a pencil than with my stylus (well there's a pen in my stylus).
[7:34pm] brycec: jervin: I type faster than I write, and more legibly
[7:34pm] alrs: the defense of FAX is that you *know* the other side received what you sent
[7:34pm] jervin: I love reading ebooks on my Palm T/X
[7:34pm] jameswf: 4G is 1 better than 3G
[7:34pm] jervin: how about 4H
[7:34pm] jsmith: jameswf: And 0.5 better than 3.5G?
[7:34pm] brycec: alrs: I'd say that P2P file transfer, like with AIM is a better analogue to faxing in the digital world
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[7:35pm] jameswf: I hate E books but if someone wants to give me a Kindle I would happily take it
[7:35pm] brycec: jameswf: Tried Wattpad?
[7:35pm] jervin: I've read hundreds of ebooks
[7:36pm] fred-tmft: from heroes and crooks
[7:36pm] jameswf: Pirates....
[7:36pm] jervin: fictionwise.com usually
[7:37pm] • ricko73 still waiting for EVDO
[7:37pm] ricko73: it's within months...
[7:37pm] fred-tmft: steping away for just a few
[7:37pm] jameswf: I can handle anything my Blackberry surfs on EDGE
[7:37pm] brycec: UMA?
[7:38pm] brycec: TDMoE
[7:38pm] ricko73: I'm surprised how well Pandora works on EDGE
[7:39pm] _3vian: spectrum = bandwidth
[7:39pm] jameswf: Pandora does do well caching
[7:39pm] brycec: ricko73: Likewise, but they're using a pretty good codec and average 56-96kbit, plus cache
[7:39pm] jervin: 56K for my USrobotics
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[7:39pm] ricko73: true
[7:40pm] brycec: 53
[7:40pm] ricko73: what's your vector Victor?
[7:40pm] brycec: FCC regulation limited to 53 "legally"
[7:40pm] jameswf: and quit calling me shirley
[7:40pm] jervin: 110
[7:41pm] jameswf: voip over dialup.. sillyness
[7:41pm] Zeeek: we did it
[7:41pm] Zeeek: Dialpad.com
[7:41pm] brycec: jameswf: Easy with something like g729, g726, or speex
[7:41pm] _3vian: thats spectrum
[7:42pm] brycec: jameswf: Those use, on average, about 4kb/s
[7:42pm] jameswf: I can transfer oil from the fields to tankers 500M away through straws from jack in the box but WHY! just because you can doesn't mean you should
[7:43pm] brycec: jameswf: I want a milkshake now...
[7:43pm] _3vian: there is only one airspace
[7:44pm] jameswf: Define::Technology Abuse: holding a conversation with someone 4 feet away via IRC
[7:45pm] _3vian: but aren't the many points fixed?
[7:45pm] Zeeek: damn, these olives are good!
[7:46pm] Zeeek: good thing we have two handsets. My wife's is fully charged
[7:49pm] RypPn left the chat room. ("No sense being pessimistic. It wouldnt work anyway.")
[7:50pm] jervin: TCPIP Illustrated?
[7:50pm] jameswf: I like the tcp/ip animation
[7:50pm] imchandave: I think it was that....title...I can look it up.
[7:52pm] jameswf: lmao tcp/ip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn6A0Y5aroc
[7:52pm] jameswf: "warriors of the internet"
[7:53pm] ricko73: zen and the art of packet design?
[7:53pm] Zeeek: The Kama Sutra of TCP/IP ?
[7:53pm] Zeeek: Mpls, MN = Minneapolis
[7:54pm] ricko73: "it's all ball bearings these days"
[7:54pm] jameswf: http://books.google.com/books?id=ESM3CWY5xRYC <<TCP/IP Illustrated
[7:55pm] jameswf: XXX on Kindle?
[7:55pm] jervin: Wow, that TCPIP Illustrated book(s) isn't cheap
[7:56pm] jameswf: Its on my amazon wish list
[7:58pm] jsmith is now known as jsmith-lunch.
[7:59pm] JimCifarelli: Am I muted?
[7:59pm] Zeeek: JimCifarelli: nope!
[8:00pm] JimCifarelli: k
[8:00pm] Zeeek: No One is Muted on Talkshoe
[8:00pm] jervin: If you have a W-Fi capable device, you can to to fictionwise.com or ereader.com buy and download books.
[8:00pm] Zeeek: including someone called: '.'
[8:02pm] imchandave:        http://www.amazon.com/Newspapers-Kindle/b?ie=UTF8&node=165389011    
[8:02pm] imchandave: Newspapers on the Kindle.
[8:04pm] JimCifarelli: Gotta run.  Have fun.
[8:04pm] Zeeek: k
[8:04pm] Zeeek: bye JimCifarelli
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[8:15pm] jervin: I think I must go and get some stuff done. bye...
[8:15pm] Zeeek: ok
[8:15pm] Zeeek: bye
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[8:16pm] Zeeek: by the way, I tried Adobe's speech to text function to try to produce a transcript
[8:16pm] ricko73: Zeeek: how'd that work?
[8:16pm] Zeeek: It's pretty bad, but I will try it again for this Part 2 call. I'll need to let it run all night probably
[8:16pm] ricko73: running on your TRS-80?
[8:16pm] Zeeek: what it is supposed to dio is allow mùe to search a video for words
[8:17pm] Zeeek: well these calls are LOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGG
[8:17pm] ricko73: it probably reads lips
[8:17pm] ricko73:                          
[8:17pm] Zeeek: possible
[8:18pm] Zeeek: nefariously wins the contest this week!
[8:19pm] Zeeek:        http://library.creativecow.net/articles/weiss_roth_david/speech_search.php    
[8:19pm] Zeeek: Adobe Speech Search has been referred to as “transcription in a box,” but that doesn’t really do it, or Adobe, the justice they deserve. As you’ll see, Speech Search is much more than that. With Speech Search, Adobe has figured out exciting new ways to make use of the information contained within the dialogue tracks of recorded audio and video files.
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[8:21pm] imchandave:        im_chandave@hotmail.com    
[8:25pm] ricko73:        http://www.lake-express.com/    
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[8:31pm] ricko73: toab?
[8:31pm] Zeeek:        http://www.the-asterisk-book.com/unstable/    
[8:31pm] fred-tmft: hdef.me
[8:32pm] fred-tmft:        fred@hdef.me    
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[8:32pm] ricko73: Zeeek@bite.me ?
[8:33pm] jameswf: $1 papa johns mmmmm
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[8:34pm] ricko73: jameswf: you delivering?
[8:34pm] imchandave: Jameswf: I'll take a pie if you are delivering!
[8:35pm] jameswf: It seems to be AZ only 
[8:35pm] ricko73:        http://imhungrydelivery.com/    
[8:35pm] ricko73: they rock!
[8:35pm] jameswf: I was in costco last week and 5 sample stations revolved around goat cheese
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[8:37pm] Zeeek: see ya next week!
[8:37pm] fred-tmft:                          
[8:38pm] imchandave: "Call has ended"