[6:06pm] JimCifarelli: where is the list of area codes? can't find it at sipgate.com
[6:07pm] jtodd: This is a discussion that happens a lot - it makes me wonder why the INFO method for DTMF isn't the standard - no media required for key capture.
[6:07pm] viperdude: SDP decides the codec
[6:07pm] mjgraves: that's a matter of codec prefernce on the phones
[6:08pm] mjgraves: Nufone falls silent
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[6:08pm] JimCifarelli: Anyone have a url for the area codes sipgate provides in the USA?
[6:08pm] fred-tmft: it made a noise when it fell, but we couldn't negotiate the codec
[6:08pm] jtodd: Google voice is not particularly ground-breaking if you look at other services over the years.
[6:09pm] jtodd: Yeah, what Thilo said.  
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[6:09pm] Zeeek: jtodd:  yeah we know!!!!
[6:09pm] viperdude: i have had white/black list, ACR etc for 3 years on my pltform
[6:09pm] viperdude: yep time of day routing also
[6:10pm] jtodd: I had a "drunk filter" time filter that would ask the caller to do basic math before letting the call through at weird hours of the night.  Prevented drunks from prank calls at 3:00 AM.
[6:10pm] ricko73: jtodd: nice!
[6:10pm] jtodd: Of course, the downside is that the drunks couldn't call me for a ride, but I wasn't the person they typically called for rides.
[6:10pm] ricko73: what if they were math impared to begin with?
[6:10pm] ricko73: impaired*
[6:10pm] Daviey: Zeeek: Ask sipgate why pick them over other providers
[6:10pm] fred-tmft: How old were you on your 22nd Birthday? usually fail by drunk people
[6:10pm] jtodd: ricko73: then I didn't want to talk to them anyway.  
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[6:11pm] ricko73: elitest?
[6:11pm] Daviey: thanks 
[6:11pm] JimCifarelli: Can both phones be in use at the same time? i.e. more than one sip channel?
[6:11pm] jtodd: ricko73: If someone can't enter the date in backwards, or add three numbers, they're either a bot or raging drunk.  Nobody I know can't do those things while sober.
[6:11pm] BoxDog: Over here one of the mobile carriers (Virgin, I think) had a feature where you could request basic math test on outgoing calls in the middle of the night, too.. again, perfect for calling your ex-partner at 3am drunk 
[6:11pm] e4voip: Ello!
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[6:13pm] viperdude: GSM codes to manage voicemail
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[6:13pm] Daviey: most people use the "press # when you answer" to show you aren't a voicemail
[6:13pm] viperdude: existed for years
[6:13pm] JimCifarelli: wow.  that's great
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[6:14pm] JimCifarelli: unification?
[6:14pm] Bananaskin_: yeah I have a few sipgate UK accts
[6:14pm] Daviey: Zeeek: So 3 concurrent calls, either outbound or inbound.. And "unlimited" extensions connected to their service?
[6:14pm] JimCifarelli: Will they be adding "transcription service" ?
[6:15pm] Daviey: handsets*
[6:16pm] viperdude: UA is more accurate then extension
[6:16pm] viperdude: you register UA's not extensions
[6:16pm] leifmadsen: and I like to abstract the thought of a device from an extension
[6:16pm] leifmadsen: and abstract the user from the extension
[6:16pm] BoxDog: Zeeek: Have Sipgate had international interest outside UK/US? What are deployment plans for phone numbers for places like say, Australia?
[6:17pm] JimCifarelli: "unification?" was my sudo answer to why someone would choose sipgate over another service.  Tie in all you phone lines (cell, fax, sip, .etc)
[6:17pm] Zeeek: i like that
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[6:19pm] Daviey: QUESTION: One thing i quite like about sipgate is the simple API that allows you to send faxes..  However, the fax appears to come from "SIPGATE (UK)" (iirc).. Is there a reason this can't be configurable?!
[6:19pm] JimCifarelli: transcription?
[6:19pm] ricko73: gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[6:20pm] ricko73: Cisco IAD's suck
[6:20pm] imchandave: Are people required to subscribe to the 911/E911 service or can we opt out of it?
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[6:20pm] viperdude: does anyone know of a toll free US number supplier... i have a customer who needs some
[6:20pm] imchandave: HK
[6:21pm] imchandave: same here....
[6:21pm] dicodread: I found a delay when the call was forwarded
[6:21pm] ricko73: viperdude: there are several.  I forget the one I used originally
[6:21pm] viperdude: any suggestions to a good one?
[6:21pm] ricko73: I ported that 800 number to Teliax back in 2004
[6:21pm] Zeeek: viperdude: junction or onsip.com
[6:21pm] Bananaskin_: Zeeek:  Hong Kong 
[6:21pm] dicodread: I havent setup a sip client as yet but that original forward test was a turn off
[6:21pm] viperdude: ok thanks
[6:22pm] dicodread: where are your sip gateways in the US or the uk?
[6:22pm] leifmadsen: ricko73: now I know what you look like! 
[6:22pm] mjgraves: just getting a Siemens A580 registered with SIPgate right now
[6:22pm] ricko73: leifmadsen: you didn't know from fb?
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[6:22pm] Ottone: So the answer was: 911 subscription is required
[6:22pm] e4voip: I signed up as a Baron on sipgate
[6:22pm] leifmadsen: ricko73: ahhh... perhaps 
[6:23pm] Zeeek: mjgraves: how do we call each other on sipgate?
[6:23pm] mjgraves: working on it
[6:23pm] fred-tmft: e4voip: I chose Mother as my title
[6:23pm] Bananaskin_: the registration string is the number you dial
[6:23pm] DFrankel: Michael, you can call me on my A580 registered w/ sipgate 650 456 3332
[6:23pm] GigasetMan: Sipgate SIP settings are available in the drop-down menu on the A580IP
[6:23pm] Ottone: Does sipgate also support g722 from sipgate.de or .uk to .us?
[6:24pm] e4voip: welcome Karl...
[6:24pm] Ottone: Within sipgate I mean
[6:24pm] Ottone: hehe
[6:24pm] Bananaskin_: Zeeek you can also dial the short account number within UK at least
[6:24pm] JimCifarelli: QUESTION: Any transcription service available?
[6:24pm] JimCifarelli: or planned?
[6:25pm] Rolfe: Is there an issue with the Takshoe web site?
[6:25pm] dcdeadbeat: any chance of DC or Virginia numbers in the future?
[6:25pm] Zeeek: Rolfe: empty cache and cookies
[6:25pm] JimCifarelli: ahhh.  No prob.
[6:25pm] JimCifarelli: thanks
[6:26pm] Rolfe: OK
[6:26pm] kfife: Forgive me if this came upalredy, but is SipGate headquartered in the US or in Germany?  Düsseldorf? incompatible encoding
[6:26pm] mjgraves: DFrankel can do once the registration is sucessfull
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[6:28pm] Rolfe: Thanks Zeeek, got it now.
[6:28pm] _3vian: can you call free from sipgate.com to .de or .uk?
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[6:29pm] leifmadsen: iPhone? pffft 
[6:29pm] leifmadsen: get a Nokia, haha
[6:29pm] kfife: Tell us about the PRE 
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[6:29pm] BoxDog: Alright! its bedtime for me! Goodnight all and thanks for an interesting intro to the Sipgate service.
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[6:30pm] mjgraves: had some trouble with the A580
[6:30pm] mjgraves: tried Eyebeam instead...and it works fine
[6:30pm] kfife: Excellent question!
[6:30pm] GigasetMan: did you try the drop down sipgate settings in the GUI setup of the A580IP?
[6:30pm] dcdeadbeat: mjgraves:  are u still have problems with your SNOM 820?
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[6:31pm] Daviey: TCP shouldn't be used for voip 
[6:31pm] Zeeek: Rolfe: did you get in to talkshoe?
[6:31pm] jtodd: TCP isn't used for VoIP -it's used for signaling.  
[6:31pm] mjgraves: GigasetMan yes, but the rest of the credentials were a little vague vs the admin gui
[6:31pm] GigasetMan: ahhhh
[6:31pm] mjgraves: GigasetMan just got it working a second ago
[6:31pm] GigasetMan: sweet!
[6:31pm] e4voip: gigasetman - T.S?
[6:32pm] GigasetMan: indeed
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[6:32pm] DFrankel: I can hear you Michael
[6:32pm] jtodd: Swing the mute axe, please.
[6:32pm] Rolfe: Zeeek, yes thanks for the help.
[6:33pm] kfife: I have a sipgate question when there's a pause
[6:33pm] ricko73: Zeeek: kfife wants to talk
[6:33pm] mjgraves: DFrankel try me at (415) 727-8497
[6:33pm] RypPn: Zeeek I have a question also 
[6:34pm] Zeeek: Speaking to Thilo Salmon of Sipage.com
[6:34pm] Zeeek: RypPn: go ahead as soon as there's room, please
[6:34pm] RypPn: k 
[6:34pm] Bananaskin_: lol
[6:34pm] Bananaskin_: take a number then take a seat 
[6:35pm] Zeeek: "Thilo Salmon has gained a strong math and computer science background studying at Heinrich-Heine-University in Düsseldorf, Germany, and UC Davis, CA. Involved in the telecom industry since 1998, Mr. Salmon has been steering a number of web publications and IP-based telecom services through the difficult times of the new economy hype. Since 2003, he has been a driving force behind "sipgate" a free pan-european VoIP service. As such he is actively involved in various national and EU policy-making processes. Mr. Salmon's latest activity centers around delivering on the cost-saving promise through community-based, settlement-free PSTN-bypass over the public internet for voice service providers (e164.info). "
[6:36pm] kfife: I believe in the US you must just demonstrate a need
[6:36pm] Zeeek: ^^^^^^that quote from VON 2005 ^^^^^
[6:37pm] da__d00d: sipgate publish SIP URIs on any public e.164 databases?
[6:38pm] Zeeek: RypPn: robert?
[6:38pm] dicodread: can i change my number after i get assigned one?
[6:39pm] kfife: DTMF problems??  No way!!
[6:39pm] Daviey: I'm pretty sure DTMF on my sipgate works
[6:39pm] Zeeek: dicodread: can you ask it? I'm sick of the of my own voice!
[6:39pm] ricko73: it's easier to just complain
[6:39pm] Bananaskin_: can be hit and miss
[6:40pm] Bananaskin_: RypPn: ???
[6:40pm] kfife: ...but it's such an awesome voice.
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[6:41pm] JimCifarelli: question
[6:41pm] kfife: Welcome Dave!
[6:41pm] Rolfe: I've been using Sipgate, also from Scotland, for ~6 months. Tech support has been great and the service has been very good.
[6:41pm] Bananaskin_: ahhh a fellow celt 
[6:41pm] RypPn: lol. lost audio
[6:42pm] Rolfe: Bananskin=John?
[6:42pm] Bananaskin_: would appear, hope u aint using that FS POS 
[6:42pm] Zeeek:        http://www.sipgate.com/numbers    
[6:42pm] Bananaskin_: RypPn: = John
[6:42pm] Bananaskin_: Bananaskin = Mike
[6:42pm] Bananaskin_:                          
[6:42pm] Rolfe: Greets.
[6:42pm] Zeeek: "John in Scotland" ?
[6:42pm] RypPn: I lost audio 
[6:42pm] RypPn: I didnt hear the answer
[6:42pm] RypPn: hehehe
[6:43pm] Bananaskin_: He said you screwed your config and go back to BT 
[6:43pm] Rolfe: English actually but love Scotland and have been living and working here for 10 years
[6:43pm] Rolfe: Rolfe has audio.
[6:43pm] e4voip: Did I see someone reference that there is a way to register a device?
[6:43pm] Zeeek: Rolfe: can I buy some?
[6:43pm] kfife: question
[6:43pm] Zeeek: go
[6:43pm] kfife: thansk randy
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[6:44pm] jtodd: ooooh - good question, Karl.  I missed that one.
[6:44pm] Rolfe: Zeeek, buy some?
[6:44pm] Zeeek: audio
[6:45pm] Zeeek: Freenum?
[6:45pm] imchandave: Did anyone ask about fees or can I ask it?
[6:45pm] Rolfe: Ah.
[6:45pm] kfife: thanks 
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[6:45pm] Zeeek: imchandave: are you dialed in?
[6:45pm] imchandave: Had a hiccup earlier...just dialed back in....
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[6:45pm] Zeeek: then, no you can't
[6:45pm] imchandave: I missed about 10 minutes...
[6:45pm] Zeeek: ok, you can
[6:45pm] Ottone: Oops, did I blast the conf with MoH?
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[6:45pm] Zeeek: "that's why we record it"™
[6:45pm] ricko73: Ottone: didn't hear it
[6:46pm] Zeeek: Ottone: no no music
[6:46pm] Ottone: ok, good
[6:46pm] • Ottone relieved
[6:46pm] Zeeek: we did excessive farting noises though
[6:46pm] Ottone: ooooooh
[6:46pm] ricko73: (hear)?
[6:46pm] Ottone: I'll look it up on the rec
[6:47pm] Zeeek: fortunately the olfactory plugin is buggy
[6:47pm] ricko73: Zeeek: again dropping the verb
[6:47pm] ricko73: those pesky things
[6:47pm] Rolfe: Bananaskin, where in Scotland are you? I'm in Alyth just north of Dundee
[6:47pm] mjgraves: I have an uncompressed recording going for those who need the sounds effects
[6:48pm] Zeeek: ZipDX 16: TS 11 not counting me or bridge
[6:48pm] mjgraves: do they support dial by sip uri?
[6:49pm] Zeeek: mjgraves: ask to give a new vocie please
[6:50pm] RypPn: Rolfe he's in ireland, I'm in scotland
[6:50pm] Zeeek: trying video again
[6:50pm] jtodd: I'd disagree with that.  Skype proves the point.
[6:50pm] ricko73: Zeeek: looking OK
[6:50pm] Zeeek: http://vuc.me/video  password 5060
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[6:51pm] RypPn: Rolfe polmont
[6:51pm] Zeeek: darth_dundi ?
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[6:52pm] kfife: jtodd: Sorry John, can you go into detail about Skype's point. Very curious to hear your thoughs.
[6:53pm] jtodd: At this point, I'm uncertain it would do more for the conversation.  I don't want to beat on Thilo.  
[6:53pm] Rolfe: RyPn, greetings and thanks.
[6:54pm] Rolfe: RypPn, polymont?
[6:55pm] mjgraves: consider IdeaSIP
[6:56pm] DFrankel: Zeek, your audio now sounds like your losing a few packets.
[6:56pm] imchandave: Zeeek: Your kind of breaking up in your audio...
[6:57pm] Zeeek: thx dave
[6:57pm] Zeeek: was it better?
[6:57pm] Zeeek: I really need two connections for video
[6:57pm] DFrankel: Yes
[6:58pm] kfife: Quick question, do you support LNP?  Can I bring my AT&T e.164 number to sipgate?
[6:58pm] DFrankel: His site says not yet for number portability.
[6:58pm] kfife: Thanks Dave
[6:59pm] kfife:                          
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[7:01pm] mjgraves: is QoS ever a problem in transit vs at the edge?
[7:01pm] Zeeek: The person speaking is Thilo from Sipgate.com
[7:02pm] Zeeek: for those of you joining IRC late. Shame you on you!
[7:02pm] imchandave: 18/19 people using G.722 on the wideband bridge.
[7:03pm] Zeeek: Talkshoe 12: ZipDX 16 not inlcuding me, TS bridge
[7:03pm] leifmadsen: I don't have G.722 
[7:03pm] Zeeek: git off!
[7:03pm] kfife: RCN Cable in Chicago suddenly became unusable for SIP (not Skype) as soon as they launched their residential voice product.  When I called to cancel my service, they blamed "VONAGE" (not my provider) and suggested I switch to their phone service.
[7:04pm] Zeeek: wow
[7:04pm] Zeeek: Is Tony Stankus here on IRC?
[7:04pm] leifmadsen: lol
[7:04pm] kfife: I hate to suggest sabbotage, but I suggest they have no incentive to make their netowrk "suitable for any particular purpose"
[7:04pm] Zeeek: seriously
[7:05pm] dcdeadbeat: i have had mixed luck with the cable companies.  Comcast is great here in DC but some of the local cable companies are not so good with regards to QoS
[7:05pm] GigasetMan: yes he is... Iam
[7:05pm] ricko73: it's Comcrapstic
[7:06pm] imchandave: Who is sipgate using as their VOIP carrier?
[7:06pm] imchandave: in the US?
[7:06pm] DFrankel: Tony, look for the private IM I sent you (the red button at the bottom of your screen if you are using freenode)
[7:06pm] kfife: I've had incredibly robust VOIP with AT&T residential dsl, as well with Comcast Business Cable.
[7:06pm] leifmadsen: ok, off to write up a release announcement for Asterisk!
[7:07pm] Zeeek: leifmadsen: see ya later