[6:11pm] jtodd: This sounds like something that would work well with a freenum.org linkin!
[6:12pm] Zeeek: ask, ask 
[6:12pm] Zeeek: prod prod
[6:13pm] ricko73: plug plug
[6:13pm] Zeeek: kerchuck $$$
[6:15pm] Zeeek: there is a blog/site?
[6:16pm] Zeeek: http://gigaset-blog.com/
[6:18pm] jameswf: gigaset does iax?
[6:18pm] Zeeek: no
[6:18pm] jameswf:
[6:18pm] jameswf: plans for iax?
[6:18pm] Daviey: I A X
[6:19pm] Reubwen: we did a customer deployment for 6 sites x 2 HD gigaset hand sets. Customer very happy.
[6:19pm] jameswf: <-- hates nat
[6:19pm] AndyML: Daviey: Mark Spencer decided to pronounce it eeks. fyi
[6:19pm] Daviey: AndyML: Well he is a plum then 
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[6:20pm] jameswf: I like  I AXE
[6:20pm] AndyML: Daviey: i can neither confirm nor deny that comment 
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[6:21pm] Ottone: Feature request: 1. Outbound rules dialplan (to pick a specific line based on dialed number), and 2. Disallow manually selecting a line using the #x postfix for specific handsets
[6:21pm] Zeeek: otto there is now
[6:22pm] Ottone: huray!
[6:22pm] kfife: distinct ring per line/registration?\
[6:22pm] Ottone: add a r
[6:22pm] Ottone: an r
[6:22pm] Ottone: works with POSTfixes
[6:23pm] Zeeek: kfife: ask!
[6:23pm] ricko73: postfix is a great mail server
[6:23pm] Daviey: One thing that has always bugged me.. not limited to Siemens phones, but most.  When a user has 2 phones (DECT and Deskphone).. And the user anwsers one of them, the other will mark it as a missed call..
[6:23pm] Daviey: ^^ per hate
[6:23pm] Daviey: pet*
[6:23pm] Ottone: Won't happen, I think this now supports the synonym of "488 answered elsewhere"
[6:23pm] Zeeek: Daviey I *think* they fixede that
[6:24pm] Zeeek: Anyone in Talkshoe need to be unmuted?
[6:24pm] fred-tmft: or even better via sip header or something
[6:24pm] Daviey: Zeeek: Would love to know how..  Seems too specific to put it in the VUC.. but a pet hate nonetheless 
[6:25pm] Zeeek: what the missed call? I think that's history
[6:26pm] Zeeek: We have Gigaset DECT users called in from 3 continents right now
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[6:28pm] beek: How difficult are they to upgrade?
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[6:28pm] Daviey: beek: Ask!
[6:28pm] J-MN: Does the Gigaset support VLANs?
[6:28pm] beek: Already answered.
[6:28pm] dcdeadbeat: I am going to retire my Snom M3 for a Gigaset.  I can't stand how small the M3 is.
[6:28pm] kfife: post-purchase updates to functionality!! Like windows!! Free bloat--just add time 
[6:28pm] J-MN: beek - missed it.
[6:29pm] RappidDev: I just cURL a pause / display request to my XBMC
[6:29pm] fred-tmft: dcdeadbeat: me too. replacing the snom m3.
[6:29pm] dcdeadbeat: Zeeek:  does it support sip uri dialing?
[6:29pm] Daviey: C460IP is reaaaaalllly old (and ugly).. have one infront of me 
[6:29pm] Zeeek: dcdeadbeat: not yet
[6:29pm] Zeeek: but I will remind Tony!
[6:29pm] dcdeadbeat: virtual protest until it supports sip uri
[6:30pm] jtodd: freenum!  freenum!
[6:30pm] jtodd: Whoops.  That just slipped out.
[6:30pm] fred-tmft:
[6:30pm] Zeeek: heh
[6:30pm] KrzyKat: What's the difference between Freenum and Enumplus ?
[6:30pm] RappidDev: Asteristickies supports web click to call
[6:30pm] dcdeadbeat: so why does my phone have letters on the keys if I am not suppposed to use them
[6:30pm] kfife: I think it's important to be able to do one-off sip uri dialing
[6:31pm] RappidDev: Probably a nice XML menu system like the Cisco 79XX
[6:31pm] ricko73: Interesting!  The Valcom VIP 172L (IP door phone) uses uClinux
[6:31pm] kfife: Not all calls can be premeditated
[6:31pm] Zeeek: murders either
[6:31pm] Zeeek: but we must try
[6:31pm] KrzyKat: You mention Freenum, what's it difference to Enumplus ?
[6:32pm] jtodd: KrzyKat: enumplus is based on phone numbers, which are a controlled resource by a central authority (and has the impossible complexity associated with it) but freenum.org looks more like an email address (1234*256 for instance)
[6:32pm] kfife: Zeeek: funny
[6:32pm] RappidDev: Is it not just a DNS NAPTR resource?
[6:33pm] kfife: how many freenum itads have been allocated to date?
[6:33pm] jtodd: It is just a NAPTR, yes.  Uses exactly the same stuff as regular ENUM, but has different politics and pointer format.
[6:33pm] kfife: jtodd: how many freenum itads have been allocated to date?
[6:33pm] jtodd: I think we're at roughly 1000 ITADs.
[6:33pm] RappidDev: Ahh OK - I will `dig`  and replicate
[6:34pm] jtodd: RappidDev: Try:  dig NAPTR 4.3.2.1.256.freenum.org.
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[6:34pm] jtodd: Zeeek: you were thinking about phonegnome, right?
[6:37pm] Zeeek: jtodd: no? don't know what that is even
[6:37pm] RappidDev: jtodd: Doesn't e164.org already do that?
[6:38pm] RappidDev: Genereate a ten digit unused false DID that points to uri?
[6:38pm] RappidDev: Maybe I am missing the point.
[6:38pm] jtodd: RappidDev: No.  They list for E.164 numbers - phone numbers.  You get phone numbers from telephone companies.  Freenum.org is based on ITADs which are not allocated by telephone companies.  Think of it as an alternate phone numbering system that looks more like an email address.
[6:38pm] jtodd: False DIDs Do Not Scale.
[6:38pm] Zeeek: without that pesky @ 
[6:39pm] dicodread: the spec says 3 concurrent calls.. could these all be conferenced?
[6:39pm] Zeeek: 2 SIP + 1 PSTN
[6:39pm] RappidDev: I see more value in routing routable DID's to URI's - I will sign up anyway and see what it is all about.
[6:40pm] Zeeek: dicodread: you'd need a conf bridge for that
[6:40pm] dicodread: ok. big selling feature inmy office
[6:40pm] jtodd: RappidDev: OK.  There are lots of reasons that E.164 numbers are non-compatible with Internet-based services.
[6:41pm] RappidDev: I am not saying it is a bad idea - just taking a while to see the benefits.. Let me sign up and see how it goes.
[6:42pm] jameswf: HD to pstn == FAIL
[6:42pm] Zeeek: RappidDev: can't beat the price 
[6:42pm] RappidDev: Heh, hear that.
[6:43pm] KrzyKat: do they have BLF ?
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[6:44pm] RappidDev: Good question.
[6:44pm] kfife: Buttons, Buttons.  It's all about the buttons 
[6:44pm] KrzyKat: Buttons and LED's
[6:44pm] J-MN: WAF = Wife Acceptance Factor
[6:45pm] kfife: WAF must be >8/10
[6:45pm] RappidDev: Mine prefers the Cisco 7940 - There is an Aastra 9143i two inches away - she checks voicemail on the Cisco
[6:46pm] RappidDev: Is this XHTML browser on the higher end models based on Gecko / webkit?  Or is it propreitary?
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[6:47pm] Zeeek: RappidDev: can you ask that?
[6:47pm] Zeeek: DFrankel: morning!
[6:47pm] RappidDev: Verbally?
[6:48pm] fred-tmft: proprietary = anti-christ to open source
[6:49pm] kfife: I have a quesion about DECT, but want to make sure nobody else has a question first.  I've had my turn 
[6:49pm] Zeeek: k
[6:49pm] AndyML: so - where can we go to buy these devices?
[6:50pm] fred-tmft: 8774e4voip.com
[6:50pm] KrzyKat: Never heard ... did anyone ask about BLF ?
[6:50pm] mjgraves: Here my review http://www.mgraves.org/voip/2009/07/review-the-gigaset-a580ip-sipdect-cordless-phone-system/
[6:51pm] RappidDev: What is the presence model?  Is there any type of busy lamp field?
[6:51pm] mjgraves: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2008/04/27/siemens-gigaset-685ip-phones/
[6:52pm] Reubwen: in Norway you have buildt in White Pages lookup into the Gigaset phones - very handy.
[6:52pm] RappidDev: A phone is a phone... no reason to try to replace your desktop.
[6:52pm] jameswf: EF ARE EE EE that spells FREE
[6:52pm] kfife: Can you talk about tne mechanics of data over dect?
[6:52pm] RappidDev: But it is nice to have customizable info on the panel - I check my server status from the UI
[6:53pm] • Daviey knows Alan Lord pretty well.
[6:54pm] Zeeek: Alan does a nice job on OS
[6:54pm] Zeeek: blog
[6:54pm] AndyML: how many handsets can you have on a single base?
[6:55pm] Zeeek: 6 IIRC
[6:55pm] AndyML: tnx
[6:55pm] Zeeek: for the 580: http://tr.im/a580ip
[6:55pm] Zeeek: anad agin, on the 675/685= http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2008/04/27/siemens-gigaset-685ip-phones/
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[6:56pm] AndyML: the base supports g729 then too - slick.
[6:57pm] • Daviey has to depart for now.. o/
[6:57pm] jameswf: I should win the Gigaset cause I am fat and lonely  if I have it perhaps Ill get more friends...
[6:57pm] Zeeek: bye
[6:57pm] RappidDev: I am looking at rolling out a law firm but BLF is required - I would consider these devices if I knew this was possible.
[6:57pm] Zeeek: jameswf: stay on the call! You might
[6:57pm] Daviey: Oh hang on.. if i stay, can i still win the prize? 
[6:58pm] Zeeek: yes, if you leave you can't but thren it's ONLY North America
[6:58pm] jameswf: co-worker had a google voice invite too dont know if he got rid of it yet...
[6:58pm] dcdeadbeat: I should win the phone since I have had to struggle with a M3
[6:58pm] Zeeek: Google voice is so 2009
[6:58pm] jameswf: ummm
[6:58pm] Daviey: Zeeek: I have a friend in North US that could bring it back for me \o/
[6:58pm] ricko73: brycec <--pimp
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[7:00pm] kfife: Question: is wideband audio over bluetooth device technically possible, even if there are no devices to date that support it (for obvious reasons)?
[7:00pm] Zeeek: bluetooth is so 2006
[7:01pm] jameswf: kfife: there are hd bt headsets..
[7:01pm] dcdeadbeat: repeaters are needed with the row houses we have in DC
[7:01pm] ricko73: Zeeek <-- so 1920's
[7:01pm] RappidDev: POE on these odes?
[7:01pm] RappidDev: nodes*
[7:01pm] kfife: jameswf: thanks! Nice to know
[7:01pm] Daviey: RappidDev: Good Feature request!
[7:01pm] • ricko73 made Zeeek laugh
[7:02pm] RappidDev: Thats a big manufacturing cost - would be a nice feature though - I agree.
[7:02pm] KrzyKat: Does the bluetooth work from the handset or the headset ?
[7:02pm] jameswf: Zeeek: a horse walks in to a bar.... OUCH
[7:02pm] RappidDev: heh
[7:02pm] RappidDev: POE?
[7:03pm] kfife: jameswf: are any of them wideband (as opposed to "wideband").  By that I mean many wideband that live up to the capability?
[7:03pm] Daviey: ** POE **

CONTEST! AT 13:15 EDT I played an excerpt from the movie: 
[7:15pm] Ottone: cool, a DECT spinal tap
[7:15pm] dcdeadbeat: the answer is Paris Hilton
[7:15pm] MicroChip32: the answer is 42, doh
[7:15pm] ricko73: The answer is 42!
[7:16pm] RappidDev: ughh I created a monster.
[7:16pm] jtodd: Kate Bush!
[7:16pm] jameswf: oh snap
[7:16pm] Ottone: I will spoil it ...
[7:16pm] jtodd: drat.
[7:16pm] RappidDev: im ready
[7:16pm] jameswf: ready
[7:16pm] Daviey: Ready
[7:16pm] Ottone: they r ready
[7:16pm] dcdeadbeat: i am ready
[7:16pm] fred-tmft: ready
[7:16pm] ricko73: ready
[7:16pm] jervin: ready
[7:16pm] Ottone: James
[7:17pm] dcdeadbeat: james bond film?
[7:17pm] RappidDev: The Birds?
[7:17pm] jameswf: moulon rouge
[7:17pm] imchandave: Only you
[7:17pm] jameswf: mooooolon
[7:17pm] RappidDev: Sleepless in Seattle?
[7:17pm] Gigaset_Man: blue velvet
[7:17pm] Daviey: play it again
[7:17pm] dcdeadbeat: chocolate
[7:17pm] Ottone: Yellow Submarine!!
[7:17pm] kfife: badhdad caffe
[7:17pm] AndyML: Badhdad Cafe

AndyML Just missed!

Thanks to Tony from Gigaset North America for a great call and fro providing that prize