[6:10pm] Zeeek: speaking: Dan York, Director of Conversations at Voxeo [6:10pm] maximCH: instead of Quarterpounder [6:11pm] Ottone joined the chat room. [6:11pm] leifmadsen: Vox-Ay-oh [6:11pm] leifmadsen: or... Vox-ae-oh? [6:13pm] pmhaddad-lappy joined the chat room. [6:15pm] Zeeek: Allegro Non Tropo is a very entertaining movie by the way, you should look it up [6:15pm] Zeeek: Tropo mean "too much"! [6:16pm] fred-tmft: much to my wife's hapiness [6:16pm] leifmadsen: wow that's annoying [6:16pm] maximCH: this happens every conference lately [6:16pm] leifmadsen: people suck [6:16pm] fred-tmft: we can set our clocks by that [6:16pm] leifmadsen: not kidding [6:16pm] leifmadsen: lol [6:17pm] zdennis: are we going to intermission? [6:17pm] leifmadsen: does that mean lunch time? [6:17pm] Reubwen: at least it makes everyone shut up. [6:17pm] fred-tmft: we should do a remix on that [6:17pm] maximCH: and mute yourself on the bridge... not on the phone [6:17pm] dcdeadbeat: it is our new theme song [6:17pm] DFrankel: Guilty of playing music into bridge: Andrew Dixon [6:18pm] maximCH: yeah ... mob justice [6:18pm] leifmadsen: btw: what is the mute DTMF code? [6:18pm] DFrankel: *6 [6:18pm] leifmadsen: thx! good to know [6:18pm] DFrankel: *6 on DTMF [6:19pm] DFrankel: *6 on ZipDX, I mean. [6:19pm] leifmadsen: heh [6:19pm] Zeeek: same on Talkshoe IIRC [6:19pm] jervin joined the chat room. [6:21pm] dcdeadbeat: I prefer the big red button on the Polycom. [6:21pm] leifmadsen: dcdeadbeat: that's useful until you answer a 2nd incoming call [6:22pm] leifmadsen: should just setup the MoH when calling the conference to a MoH class that just plays silence/10 or something [6:22pm] maximCH: hello? [6:22pm] leifmadsen: drop outs... nice [6:22pm] maximCH: is that just me? [6:22pm] maximCH: ah [6:22pm] dcdeadbeat: I don't answer 2nd calls. That's what voicemail was designed for. [6:22pm] ricko73: crickets... [6:22pm] dcdeadbeat: where did everyone go? [6:23pm] fred-tmft: It's ZipDX? [6:23pm] maximCH: dead here [6:23pm] fred-tmft: talkshoe is fine [6:23pm] Reubwen: dead. [6:23pm] Daviey: Are we busted?! [6:23pm] fred-tmft: same problem I was having before [6:23pm] fred-tmft: talkshoe direct is up and running with good 2 way [6:23pm] Daviey: The bridge has fallen down [6:24pm] ricko73: London Bridge? [6:24pm] Daviey: build it up with Zeeek's and SIP [6:25pm] Reubwen: I can hear you and I'm on zipdx [6:25pm] ricko73: I hear nothing on zipdx [6:25pm] fred-tmft: Will adhearsion be supporting 1.6? [6:25pm] ricko73: on ts now [6:25pm] maximCH: anyone on Talkshoe can hear ZipDX? [6:25pm] Daviey: Zeeek is bringing it back [6:25pm] maximCH: Zeeek will be dialing talkshoe back in [6:26pm] ricko73: I was on Zipdx and couldn't hear zipdx [6:26pm] • leifmadsen waits patiently [6:26pm] imchandave: that was weird. I was cut off too, and I"m on zipdx. [6:26pm] maximCH: please remain seated and keep your seatbelts on. [6:26pm] Daviey: i think those with NO sound on zipdx need to hangup and dial back in [6:26pm] maximCH: we experience a bit of turbulence [6:26pm] dcdeadbeat: ahh modern technology [6:26pm] DFrankel: ...investigating... [6:27pm] Reubwen: this only show that VoIP is dead.... [6:27pm] dcdeadbeat: actually the internet is dead. didn't you get the memo? [6:27pm] maximCH: nah ... VoIP isn't dead... but maybe we should rethink having like 20 different ways of calling in and tying together 2 conference bridges. [6:27pm] • Daviey reboots the internet [6:27pm] danyork: [6:28pm] leifmadsen: woh, I have audio again! [6:29pm] • leifmadsen is now joining the call [6:29pm] leifmadsen: with MoH! [6:29pm] Zeeek: jay sounds good now [6:30pm] dcdeadbeat: he sounds good for PSTN quality. [6:30pm] leifmadsen: [6:31pm] Zeeek: that was the worst ever [6:31pm] Zeeek: anyone need to be unmuted? [6:32pm] dcdeadbeat: is that Ward Mundy asking the question? [6:32pm] Zeeek: dunno [6:32pm] Zeeek: does he have a IRC pseudo? [6:33pm] Zeeek: anyone need to be UNmuted? [6:33pm] fred-tmft: ? [6:34pm] zdennis: er...did we lose em? [6:34pm] Zeeek: I love when they talk like this [6:34pm] zdennis: or did i lose em [6:34pm] maximCH: I'm still on [6:34pm] Zeeek: I'm hearing them on ZipDX [6:34pm] fred-tmft: I did... went back to talkshoe [6:34pm] Zeeek: WTF? [6:35pm] zdennis: sound is back [6:35pm] zdennis: ooh i have a question, can I type it, or do i have to speak it? [6:36pm] Zeeek: type or speak [6:36pm] maximCH: Fortran [6:36pm] zdennis: Is if conference support in Tropo's roadmap, if so, any ideas with regard to when it will be available for testing? [6:37pm] danyork: https://scripting.dev.java.net/ - JSR 223 [6:40pm] fred-tmft: please don't bad mouth perl [6:40pm] imchandave: Where's Randal? [6:40pm] Zeeek: i asked him to come by [6:41pm] Zeeek: zdennis: getting to your question [6:42pm] imchandave: Erlang! Love it! [6:43pm] Reubwen: Erlang have a very high learning curve. [6:43pm] zdennis: Zeeek: cool, another question if I can ask two: when Jay, Dan, and Jason say that Adhearsion will support Tropo, what does that mean?! [6:43pm] Zeeek: zdennis: can you talk? [6:43pm] Zeeek: are you dialed in? [6:43pm] zdennis: sure [6:44pm] Zeeek: you may as well ask and discuss [6:44pm] zdennis: oh no i'm dialed in [6:45pm] zdennis: you can't hear me... shucks [6:45pm] imchandave: he's on talkshoe [6:45pm] zdennis: i'm speaking [6:45pm] zdennis: i'm on xlite [6:45pm] zdennis: not muted [6:45pm] zdennis: bah [6:45pm] zdennis: input volue all the weay up [6:46pm] Zeeek: sorry, there was no sound [6:46pm] Zeeek: Anyone else on questions? [6:47pm] zdennis: it answered it, thank you [6:48pm] Zeeek: np [6:48pm] Zeeek: welcome to ask more [6:49pm] danyork: http://www.voxeo.com/prophecy -> direct download of Prophecy [6:49pm] jervin left the chat room. ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.12/2009070811]") [6:49pm] danyork: http://labs.voxeo.com/ [6:50pm] danyork: You want Prophecy 9 [6:50pm] jsgoecke joined the chat room. [6:50pm] jsgoecke: Hello all [6:50pm] Zeeek: aha! [6:50pm] Zeeek: anyone need to be unmuted? [6:51pm] kfife joined the chat room. [6:51pm] droemel left the chat room. [6:51pm] Zeeek: hey kfife [6:51pm] kfife: Zeeek: Hi [6:52pm] zdennis: okay i just dialed in on my phone, xlite kept flaking out [6:53pm] Zeeek: can you hear ok? YOu'reunmuted [6:53pm] kfife: Small guys: fortune "my house" [6:54pm] Zeeek: that's Jay with the noise btw [6:57pm] Reubwen: for smaller languages you will have to use humans [6:58pm] mjgraves joined the chat room. [6:58pm] imchandave: [6:58pm] imchandave: HI Michael, off the plane? [6:58pm] mjgraves: waiting for the plane [6:58pm] • ricko73 waves to mjgraves, temporary Canuck [6:58pm] mjgraves: he [6:59pm] mjgraves: lifelong Canuck [6:59pm] mjgraves: US resident [6:59pm] imchandave: Michael's on the zipdx bridge [6:59pm] UnixDawg_: sorry missed the conf I have to listen to it when you post it [6:59pm] Zeeek: UnixDawg_: ok [7:00pm] UnixDawg_: wasat dr office [7:00pm] Zeeek: sorry I can't play your theme! [7:00pm] UnixDawg_: thanks [7:00pm] Zeeek: kfife: gerat question [7:00pm] kfife: thansk Randy [7:00pm] Zeeek: I was just about to ask it [7:00pm] Zeeek: but I wanted to leave space for others [7:01pm] • Zeeek ducks [7:02pm] Zeeek: questions from the TS text chat: [7:02pm] Zeeek: Outbound T.38 fax ? [7:02pm] mjgraves: ZIPDX seems ratty today [7:03pm] mjgraves: I missed the first 15 minutes [7:03pm] Zeeek: Data security, support VPN connections? [7:03pm] Zeeek: mjgraves: yeah we got kicked [7:03pm] mjgraves: How about TLS/SRTP? [7:03pm] kenwiesner joined the chat room. [7:04pm] Zeeek: Does tropo have all the functionality of VoiceXML? [7:04pm] Zeeek: voice biometrics engine for recognition? [7:04pm] mjgraves: I seem TV stations sending voice notifications of foul weather warnings [7:04pm] mjgraves: goo app for this? [7:04pm] mjgraves: good app for this? [7:05pm] Zeeek: mjgraves: are you able to speak? [7:05pm] kenwiesner: Question: "You mentioned outbound apps, does voxeo / tropo support T.38 fax? [7:05pm] mjgraves: maybe [7:05pm] mjgraves: got headset on [7:05pm] Zeeek: when is takeoff? [7:05pm] mjgraves: 45 minutes [7:05pm] Jeff_Hopper joined the chat room. [7:05pm] televoip joined the chat room. [7:05pm] Zeeek: should I call you or ask a question from IRC? [7:05pm] Zeeek: ah here thety all come [7:06pm] mjgraves: as you like [7:06pm] Zeeek: I'll ask the T38 fax one [7:06pm] Zeeek: then you can see if you can talk? [7:06pm] Jeff_Hopper: Speaking of data security, will Tropo support VPN connections to help keep interaction with an in-house application more secure? Or what other methods do you have to secure traffic to/from Tropo? [7:06pm] mjgraves: can you see any sound from me on the zip dx console? [7:06pm] Zeeek: Jeff_Hopper: can't you phone in [7:06pm] Zeeek: ? [7:06pm] imchandave: Was that you, Michael, clearing your voice? [7:07pm] Zeeek: If not I'll ask your qsuestions [7:07pm] Jeff_Hopper: sorry I'm not where I can [7:08pm] Zeeek: Jeff_Hopper: ok I'll ask it in a bit [7:08pm] Zeeek: first T.38 fax, then michael [7:08pm] dcdeadbeat left the chat room. [7:08pm] mjgraves: mature [7:08pm] mjgraves: it's a good word [7:09pm] mjgraves: maxinch: what's the work on the N97? [7:09pm] jsgoecke: For Tropo, go to http://tropo.com [7:09pm] mjgraves: sorry maximch: [7:09pm] Zeeek: sandbox! Don't get me started [7:09pm] jsgoecke: Developer sign-ups are freely available [7:09pm] Zeeek: for pr0n, go to http://pr0n.xxx [7:10pm] mjgraves: prawns? [7:12pm] Zeeek: the first presentation I saw of Jay, he made the point clearly that the learning curve of asterisk was steep and I agreed, but you forget about it once you've learned it [7:13pm] zdennis: Zeeek: i'm dialed in on phone, the next time you guys open up questions, will i be heard, or do I need to request to be unmuted on your end? [7:14pm] Zeeek: I can unmute you now [7:14pm] zdennis: thx [7:14pm] televoip: Zeeek: Thanks for asking my questions. sorry, I couldn't make it earlier [7:14pm] Zeeek: televoip: np kevin [7:14pm] mjgraves: Ruby is supposed to "make programmers happy" or so I've read. [7:14pm] UnixDawg_: have they looked at intergrating with Freeswitch ? [7:14pm] UnixDawg_: or are they asterisk only ? [7:14pm] Zeeek: UnixDawg_: Adhearsion? [7:15pm] UnixDawg_: yes and tropo [7:15pm] Reubwen: UnixDawg_: Both Asterisk and Freeswitch is underlying technologies - these should not matter to the programmers. [7:16pm] mjgraves: you buy the book, but they might take it back.... [7:17pm] Zeeek: not if it's free [7:17pm] mjgraves: seee, I self mute [7:18pm] mjgraves: can someone tells my wife, please? [7:19pm] kenwiesner: ha [7:19pm] ricko73: mjgraves: sure, she says... [7:19pm] Reubwen: T.38 is evil. [7:19pm] mjgraves: FAX is evil [7:19pm] kenwiesner: 6,000 - 10,000 port requirement, email me ken.wiesner@openfax.com [7:19pm] kfife: P.38 lightning [7:20pm] kfife: Fax is what you present to your customers for THEIR benefit [7:20pm] ricko73: kfife: grease lightning or white lightning? [7:21pm] kfife: ricko73: http://bit.ly/AsJxY [7:22pm] kfife: ricko73: gray [7:22pm] leifmadsen: kfife: !!! [7:22pm] leifmadsen: fax is terrorism [7:22pm] kfife: leifmadsen: hey there [7:22pm] leifmadsen: kfife: how goes sir? [7:23pm] kfife: Use a fax, and the terrorists win. [7:23pm] jsgoecke: I wish faxes would go away... [7:23pm] kenwiesner: LOL Michael Arrogant... [7:23pm] kfife: We all do, but you gotta keep one as long as people send them to you. [7:23pm] leifmadsen: I hear ya! [7:23pm] Zeeek: We hear you ™ [7:23pm] leifmadsen: I don't have a physical fax machine [7:24pm] leifmadsen: those are useless since we have email now [7:24pm] leifmadsen: fax to email, ftw! [7:24pm] Zeeek: please don't use the F word here [7:24pm] Bananaskin left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [7:24pm] kenwiesner: leif, you'd be surprised [7:24pm] leifmadsen: Zeeek: fax you! [7:24pm] Zeeek: fax you! [7:24pm] UnixDawg_: fax this [7:24pm] pmhaddad-lappy: fax your mom [7:24pm] da__d00d: fax it [7:24pm] pmhaddad-lappy: OHHH [7:24pm] kenwiesner: we work with many govt agencies and Fortune 500s that will not abandon fax [7:24pm] kfife: I'm going to FAX you all a printed copy of an Evite I got [7:24pm] UnixDawg_: fax off [7:25pm] imchandave: Wow! Long recording... [7:25pm] pmhaddad-lappy: leifmadsen, speaking of faxing.... [7:25pm] pmhaddad-lappy: any progress on that email i sent you? [7:25pm] leifmadsen: pmhaddad-lappy: oh snap [7:25pm] mjgraves: going to have to go soon [7:25pm] leifmadsen: pmhaddad-lappy: oh geez... I don't even remember the email [7:25pm] pmhaddad-lappy: leifmadsen, jerk [7:25pm] mjgraves: bye all [7:25pm] leifmadsen: mjgraves: lates! [7:25pm] imchandave: have a safe flight, Michael [7:25pm] Zeeek: bye [7:25pm] danyork: mjgraves: bye! Safe travels! [7:25pm] leifmadsen: pmhaddad-lappy: I faxed your mom! [7:26pm] kfife: leifmadsen: I think most Americans would do well to compare and contrast Detroit and Windsor. [7:26pm] pmhaddad-lappy: leifmadsen, i did get it working fine, but not through the * dialplan [7:26pm] mjgraves left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [7:26pm] leifmadsen: kfife: amen [7:26pm] pmhaddad-lappy: we just used a fax switch [7:26pm] leifmadsen: ah gotcha [7:26pm] Traveler2 joined the chat room. [7:26pm] zdennis: Zeeek: i've got a question on integrated end to end testing of voice applications, and tools that tropo and/or adhearsion will support. [7:26pm] pmhaddad-lappy: cause i couldn't figure out how to match on Congestion [7:26pm] zdennis: next time you get to user questions [7:27pm] fred-tmft: leifmadsen: just had to drive through some REALLY bad areas of Detroit yesterday. Ugh. [7:27pm] ricko73: fred-tmft: worse than Flint? [7:27pm] leifmadsen: fred-tmft: oh jeez... I've done that. It's scary. [7:27pm] Zeeek: fred-tmft: what you had an appointment at GM ? [7:27pm] • leifmadsen used to drive to Flint every day [7:28pm] pmhaddad-lappy: leifmadsen, oh oh! i grew up an hour north of there [7:28pm] Zeeek: did Michael Moore brick your car or something? [7:28pm] pmhaddad-lappy: you know where midland MI is? [7:28pm] jsgoecke: Zdennis wrote this book: http://www.pragprog.com/titles/achbd/the-rspec-book [7:28pm] fred-tmft: rick73: Way worse than Flint [7:28pm] fred-tmft: Zeeek: INS. Even scarier. [7:28pm] leifmadsen: back in a few -- gonna release some new asterisk-addons releases [7:29pm] fred-tmft: ricko73: Way worse than Flint [7:29pm] Zeeek: ok [7:29pm] kfife: Recently release third edition of the ruby book: http://www.pragprog.com/titles/rails3/agile-web-development-with-rails-third-edition [7:29pm] kfife: rails book I mean. [7:31pm] Jeff_Hopper: You could stub out the receiving phone numbers as an application on a cloud platform [7:32pm] zdennis: bah stupid at&T [7:32pm] zdennis: dropped, dialed back in [7:32pm] kenwiesner: More bars in less places [7:32pm] leifmadsen: zdennis: I've been seeing a lot of unhappy AT&T companies lately [7:32pm] leifmadsen: s/companies/customers/ [7:32pm] kenwiesner: more like "Less bars in more places" [7:32pm] Traveler joined the chat room. [7:33pm] zdennis: yes, can you hear me [7:33pm] kenwiesner left the chat room. [7:34pm] Zeeek: jsgoecke: how much time does everyone have? [7:34pm] Zeeek: Are they hanging questions that have not been addressed? [7:34pm] Zeeek: Jeff_Hopper: did the security question clear up what you wanted to know? [7:34pm] Zeeek: if not I'll ask it [7:35pm] Zeeek: end of Part One in 10-15 minutes [7:36pm] imchandave: the eclipse! [7:36pm] jsgoecke: Cucumber: http://cukes.info/ [7:36pm] jsgoecke: And blogpost on Cucumber-Nagios for Adhearsion testing: http://jsgoecke.wordpress.com/2009/06/10/behavior-driven-systems-monitoring-for-telephony/ [7:38pm] leifmadsen: Zeeek is not very good about predicting the future [7:38pm] zdennis: day job, what's that? [7:39pm] zdennis: thank you guys for doing this call, it's been extremely informative to someone who is very new to the voice application world [7:39pm] jsgoecke: This conference call is a great avenue for learning all about voice [7:39pm] jsgoecke: I recommend following it and the blog [7:39pm] kfife: göcke incompatible encoding [7:40pm] jsgoecke: jsgoecke@voxeo.com [7:40pm] jsgoecke: jay@voxeo.com [7:40pm] jsgoecke: dan.york@voxeo.com [7:40pm] jsgoecke: http://www.cluecon.com/ [7:40pm] danyork: http://twitter.com/voxeo [7:41pm] jsgoecke: http://twitter.com/adhearsion [7:41pm] kfife: Thanks guys! [7:41pm] leifmadsen: sweet [7:41pm] Reubwen: Link to BBC article regarding the Spinvox mess-up - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8163511.stm [7:41pm] leifmadsen: PG-13 at best [7:41pm] danyork: http://twitter.com/danyork - http://twitter.com/jsgoecke - http://twitter.com/jicksta [7:41pm] DFrankel: APOLOGIES TO ALL FROM ZIPDX FOR THE EARLIER INTERRUPTION.... [7:41pm] Traveler left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [7:41pm] DFrankel: PROBLEM IDENTIFIED AND CORRECTED... [7:42pm] jsgoecke: Thanks for having us today Zeeek! [7:42pm] Jeff_Hopper left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [7:42pm] fred-tmft: DFrankel: same to the issue I had earlier? [7:42pm] DFrankel: No, completely different. [7:43pm] DFrankel: I had asked a colleague to tweak something, and there were "unintended consequences". [7:43pm] DFrankel: Fred, I think your problem is just you! [7:43pm] fred-tmft: [7:44pm] kfife: Who's goign to cluecon? [7:44pm] danyork: I will be there [7:44pm] danyork: As will Jay [7:44pm] jsgoecke: Jay will be there [7:45pm] fred-tmft: wanna bring bikes down? [7:45pm] jsgoecke: Long ride on my 10-speed [7:46pm] fred-tmft: even longer on the Harley [7:47pm] jsgoecke: Alright guys, I have to run, another engagement at 11am [7:47pm] jsgoecke: Thanks again!