[6:09pm] RandalSchwartz: so I'm on via siphon, using my gizmo login, connected to sipgate [6:09pm] MaxwellsDemon: oh i know about wine the software project, just found it odd someone would use voip software under wine rather than a native client [6:10pm] Zeeek: RandalSchwartz: gotcha [6:10pm] RandalSchwartz: good thing I have my local mute on. [6:10pm] RandalSchwartz: I'm still hearing some phasing/flanging in the audio [6:10pm] RandalSchwartz: so that's my g729 artifacts? [6:10pm] ricko73: correct [6:10pm] RandalSchwartz: ok [6:11pm] RandalSchwartz: I don't hear those on the webaudio [6:11pm] topcat139: I haven't been able to load the sipgate.com site, or get their voip service running properly the last two days. I only have outbound audio [6:12pm] RypPn left the chat room. (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [6:12pm] Zeeek: topcat139: any chance you use openDNS? [6:13pm] topcat139: yup [6:13pm] Zeeek: get rid of it! [6:13pm] Zeeek: They have the wrong ip fort sipgate [6:13pm] Zeeek: They totally screwed us up with it [6:13pm] russellb left the chat room. ("Leaving") [6:13pm] Zeeek: Problem solved [6:13pm] topcat139: roger, roger... whatyt'sa good dns server, east coast us? [6:13pm] ricko73: Zeeek: I've found opendns to be very reliable [6:13pm] Zeeek: fsck them, they return bad IP what's to like? [6:14pm] topcat139: chrome jusr crashed be right back [6:14pm] ricko73: Zeeek: I have no problem here getting to sipgate.com [6:14pm] Skibum joined the chat room. [6:14pm] RandalSchwartz: zeek - did you see itunes.com/app/media5-fone ? [6:14pm] MaxwellsDemon: us the dns servers from your isp [6:14pm] MaxwellsDemon: er use the dns servers from your isp [6:14pm] TDF: I had trouble on the 9th ok since then [6:14pm] TDF: http://forums.opendns.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=4847&page=1 [6:15pm] topcat139: I use cable they block some ip's i use [6:15pm] Skibum left the chat room. (Client Quit) [6:15pm] ricko73: what's his twitter nick? [6:15pm] ricko73: http://twitter.com/andyabramson [6:15pm] MaxwellsDemon: do you mean they block certain domains? if they were blocking ips you would have the same block regardless of what dns server you used [6:16pm] Skibum joined the chat room. [6:16pm] topcat139: my flash keeps crashing [6:16pm] yanber joined the chat room. [6:16pm] RandalSchwartz: oooh - new as of sep 18 - http://itunes.com/app/ofone [6:16pm] topcat139: mean that the dns lookup loops when i try to access, for instance piratebay [6:17pm] imchandave: topcat139: flash for what? not for any talkshoe/zipdx stuff... [6:17pm] topcat139: nope, using the talkshoe web app [6:17pm] Reubwen joined the chat room. [6:17pm] RandalSchwartz: oh - ofone is by the same people as ipico [6:17pm] imchandave: Download the Java app... [6:18pm] imcdona: VoipWatch RSS feed: http://andyabramson.blogs.com/voipwatch/atom.xml [6:18pm] RypPn joined the chat room. [6:18pm] MaxwellsDemon: you could always run your own dns server [6:18pm] Reubwen: finally here [6:19pm] topcat139: truth is i'm lucky to have any of this ghear up and running. on an intel 3.0 intel 965 board, 1gb mem,ati 9200 vid [6:20pm] topcat139: i rebuild and resell older gear in my community, bronx ny [6:20pm] topcat139: south bronx [6:20pm] MaxwellsDemon: setting up your own dns server isnt really terribly hard if you have any linux knowledge [6:20pm] Andre joined the chat room. [6:20pm] Skibum: EJ Corvettes...used to live down the street.. [6:21pm] topcat139: unfortunately i'm nowhere near as knowledgable regarding lnux as i should be [6:21pm] topcat139: korvette's? god that's history!! [6:21pm] Skibum: yep [6:21pm] Skibum: was next to Kleins [6:22pm] topcat139: man the areas has changed so much, you wouldn't recognize it today. not the wild west anymore, but still iffy [6:23pm] Skibum: last time I was there I didn't recognize a thing... [6:23pm] mjgraves: sounds very like my opinion of Google Voice [6:23pm] topcat139: how long it been? [6:23pm] RandalSchwartz: I hear typing [6:24pm] Skibum: last time was 8 years ago.. lived there in the 60's [6:25pm] topcat139: woah, that's a while. I'm near the hunts point market. [6:25pm] Skibum: used to go to Lafayette and Forbees Electronics.. [6:25pm] Zeeek: lafayette! I remember them! [6:25pm] Zeeek: synonymous with CHEAP [6:26pm] topcat139: yup they were great! blows radio shack out the water...they knew theyre stuff [6:26pm] Zeeek: The Shack™ ? [6:26pm] Skibum: lol [6:26pm] mjgraves: ask Andy to give us his characterization of Google Voice [6:27pm] Zeeek: k [6:27pm] topcat139: used them to mod my first cb for channels 23 a and b [6:28pm] Skibum: me too! [6:28pm] topcat139: those were the days... [6:28pm] topcat139: hey would you have a dns server ip for the east coast? have a list here somewhere... [6:29pm] NerdUno joined the chat room. [6:29pm] topcat139: build a linear?? [6:30pm] Skibum: just wait till you see what is coming from CounterPath [6:30pm] Skibum: [6:30pm] topcat139: still waiting for an invite to GV [6:31pm] topcat139: Had spoken to the engineers at zyxel, (before cisco) they had a video ip phone in the works, wifi [6:31pm] Zeeek: Speaking: Andy Abramson, "Voip Watch" http://twitter.com/andyabramson - http://andyabramson.blogs.com/voipwatch/ [6:31pm] Zeeek: Michael Graves Blog: http://www.mgraves.org/voip/ [6:31pm] Zeeek: VoIP Users Conference... oh wait, you're here! [6:32pm] jtodd joined the chat room. [6:32pm] topcat139: flas keeps crashing on me... chromeplus.. and chrome same issue [6:32pm] Skibum: topcat.. I used an afterburner back then... [6:33pm] topcat139: yup, had a half kwatt linear, but it was dirty as all get out [6:33pm] Skibum: nothing like sweep tubes.. [6:34pm] topcat139: yup, i had a 5/8 wave sitting on top of a 50 ft mast, on the top of the house, about 110 ft of the ground.. [6:35pm] Skibum: I still do... lol [6:35pm] MaxwellsDemon: yeah, that was the first thing i decided when i "upgraded" to GV from GC, GC had such a better interface [6:35pm] Skibum: Andy.. what are your thoughts on Video.. specifically Hi Definition. Will there ever be a big market for video phones? [6:35pm] MaxwellsDemon: and the phone book import from GC to GV didnt keep the groups [6:35pm] topcat139: how long did it take to get an invite for GV?? [6:35pm] Traveler joined the chat room. [6:36pm] MaxwellsDemon: the groups were there as extra data on the entry, but it didnt turn the groups into groups in the GV address book [6:36pm] MaxwellsDemon: topcat139: i started on grandcentral [6:36pm] Zeeek: Skibum: are u still on the call? [6:36pm] Traveler is now known as Guest18752. [6:36pm] Zeeek: if so you can ask [6:36pm] Skibum: ok [6:37pm] topcat139: grandfathered in, lucky you [6:37pm] topcat139 left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [6:37pm] Zeeek: funny that was my next question after the next question! [6:38pm] mjgraves: 3D TV was the biggest new thing at IBC last week [6:38pm] MaxwellsDemon: and of course, topics i care about and i have to walk to another part of the building *grumble* [6:38pm] MaxwellsDemon: so glad this has an rss feed of the recordings [6:38pm] topcat139 joined the chat room. [6:38pm] maximCH: I think once chan_skype does video it will really take off [6:38pm] RandalSchwartz: lots of hiss from somewhere [6:38pm] RandalSchwartz: is that just me? [6:39pm] maximCH: then you have millions of people with Skype joined with SIP [6:39pm] topcat139: dick tracy's wrist phone.. [6:39pm] RandalSchwartz: gone now [6:39pm] Reubwen: probably me. [6:39pm] Zeeek: horrible hiss for a second, yeah [6:39pm] Reubwen: someone has messed with my settings. [6:39pm] RandalSchwartz: gremlins! [6:40pm] Reubwen: cat walking over the keyboard more likely. [6:40pm] Guest18752: google-ins [6:40pm] topcat139: ?? how do i dial in from gizmo.. no call credits.. [6:41pm] topcat139: using zyxel wifi phone [6:41pm] mjgraves: hpoefully they blog [6:41pm] mjgraves: which can be a lot like an essay [6:41pm] steely_glint joined the chat room. [6:42pm] mjgraves: SMS/twitter is techno-eubonics? [6:42pm] RandalSchwartz: this is jsut a newer version of "calculators will destroy math skills" [6:42pm] RandalSchwartz: I think people will cope [6:42pm] RandalSchwartz: but differently [6:43pm] topcat139: zipdx in [6:43pm] Zeeek: RandalSchwartz: look at DM window [6:44pm] RandalSchwartz: it's all one window for me [6:44pm] RandalSchwartz: the entire world in one window [6:44pm] RandalSchwartz: should I talk about how the kids will cope? [6:45pm] steely_glint: 16 yearold visiting us lastnight was on facebook and was talking on on his cell simultaneously for a couple of hours. [6:45pm] RandalSchwartz: not that I'm an expert. but I *am* a social media butterfly. [6:45pm] Guest18752: Is there audio for this chat? [6:45pm] RandalSchwartz: Guest18752 - see /topic [6:45pm] steely_glint: sure. [6:45pm] Zeeek: talkshoe [6:45pm] topcat139: http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=22622&cmd=tc [6:46pm] Guest18752: OK thx [6:46pm] Reubwen: I have a comment regarding video, espially on the cell phones. [6:47pm] topcat139: that would eat up alot of bandwidth [6:47pm] steely_glint: But 30% of skype's calls are video - so someone wants it [6:48pm] Zeeek: imcdona: do you need to be unmuted? If so say it here [6:48pm] ricko73: codecs are under constant development and hardware is also being developed which will do on-chip decompression [6:49pm] Zeeek: yeah steely_glint but that's family and gramps [6:49pm] topcat139: zyxel had been working on a video voip wifi phone before going cisco [6:49pm] steely_glint: I think a _lot_ of it is sex actulally [6:49pm] Skibum: Look at the HTC LEO [6:49pm] Zeeek: that too [6:49pm] Skibum: 5mp cam [6:50pm] Skibum: 1 ghz snapdragon [6:50pm] steely_glint left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [6:52pm] steely_glint joined the chat room. [6:53pm] televoip joined the chat room. [6:53pm] RandalSchwartz: I use Byline on my iPhone [6:53pm] RandalSchwartz: sync'ed google reader [6:53pm] Skibum: I run my house with VR [6:54pm] topcat139: mod the ipod touch gen 2 into a voip phone, wifi [6:54pm] topcat139: skibum, smarthouse, love the tech!! [6:54pm] steely_glint: HD voice may well help with recognition [6:54pm] Skibum: I use Homeseer [6:54pm] Skibum: I happen to have an ideal voice for VR [6:55pm] maximCH: http://www.gethuman.com/ [6:55pm] Skibum: great site [6:55pm] Skibum: use it all the time [6:55pm] Reubwen: speech recognition in an IVR is currently pretty bad - takes too long time to navigate a deep menu structure compared to DTMF. [6:55pm] topcat139: sure, somewhat familiar with it... I'm working to get myu bizz back up, connect with some contractors to let me prewire, use a mesh net to run and enable the house.. [6:55pm] NerdUno: Mostly poor IVR design. [6:56pm] steely_glint: Ah -look at fonolo instead of IVR [6:56pm] Skibum: topcat... you should checkout cocoontech.com [6:56pm] steely_glint left the chat room. (Client Quit) [6:56pm] topcat139: open source mesh networking, wiana. run a meshbox, handles great! [6:56pm] steely_glint joined the chat room. [6:57pm] topcat139: looking now [6:57pm] markwaters left the chat room. [6:57pm] topcat139: sweet, use the touchpads to run things, muich better than the overcosted smart house remotes.. [6:58pm] Skibum: they have a great forum and IRC channel to get info from. [6:58pm] topcat139: do you use zigbee or what? [6:58pm] mjgraves: this is the fundamental difference between comcast residential service and business class service [6:58pm] mjgraves: local service by thinking human beings [6:58pm] Skibum: currently only X-10 and some wireless. [6:59pm] NerdUno: 100% agree on Comcast [7:00pm] topcat139: take a look at the meshbox tech over at wiana, I use one for testing. The tech is really reliable, and highly configuarble [7:00pm] imcdona: on the g722 confernece room I keep getting disconnect after about 5 mins...everything is going fine, and then I get an invite from the conference bridge? that is when the call drops [7:00pm] NerdUno: Randy makes a good point: "The guys knows what he's talking about." [7:00pm] NerdUno: Not many "guys" like that at Comcast Residential [7:00pm] Skibum: will do [7:00pm] topcat139: i run voip over it for range, 1/2 watt wifi and panel antenna [7:00pm] Zeeek: we get connected to one of the people who run the system [7:00pm] televoip: I can't get on g722 bridge at all [7:01pm] DFrankel: imcdona: What kind of client are you using? [7:01pm] RandalSchwartz: I think the word "racist" is too loaded for this [7:01pm] RandalSchwartz: "prejudiced" would work [7:01pm] Zeeek: ya [7:01pm] DFrankel: inclona: ZipDX sends SIP UPDATEs and sometimes SIP (re)INVITEs to keep your call active [7:01pm] imcdona: Tried Bria and my polycom to rule out the SIP UA's [7:01pm] RandalSchwartz: "this website compatible only with telnet" [7:02pm] DFrankel: imclona: Are you connecting directly or through some PBX or proxy? [7:02pm] RandalSchwartz: you can't ignore iphone users now [7:02pm] RandalSchwartz: it's a huge market [7:02pm] topcat139: try the web app for the zipdx bridge, it's running fine here. [7:02pm] imcdona: Asterisk is sending back "method not implemented" in resposne to the update [7:03pm] mjgraves: no, it's big...but more importantly it's vocal [7:03pm] mjgraves: iphone users are evangelkical [7:03pm] e4voip joined the chat room. [7:03pm] jtodd left the chat room. (Remote closed the connection) [7:03pm] Skibum: David.. your connection on the east coast has been near flawless for the entire conference. [7:04pm] imcdona: I am surprised asterisk is choking on the update. Anyone else using asterisk to connect to the g722 bridge? [7:04pm] ricko73: imcdona: yes I am [7:04pm] e4voip: we need a bleep system for when people say those other webstore names LOL [7:04pm] Reubwen: imcdona: yeah. [7:04pm] NerdUno: I tried. It was awful today. [7:04pm] DFrankel: Skibum: Thanks for the report! We keep call stats and most of them look great. [7:04pm] steely_glint: Has andy used my Voip web control ? [7:04pm] Skibum: Using Bria [7:04pm] DFrankel: Skibum: Randy is connected from Paris and he generally does terrific. [7:04pm] ricko73: e4voip: you just gotta plug your store [7:04pm] topcat139: just started getting wobble, shoudn't, 20 mb inbound [7:04pm] Zeeek: DFrankel: Bordeaux, not Paris! [7:05pm] Skibum: lol [7:05pm] DFrankel: Oooopps...so sorry. [7:05pm] imcdona: Strange...ohh well, I guess I can deal with ulaw [7:05pm] topcat139: 5 mb out [7:05pm] Reubwen: Bordeaux is much nicer than Paris.... [7:05pm] imchandave: topcat139: I've been getting wobbling intermittenly all during this conference call.. [7:05pm] e4voip: I think everyone here knows about us--- For the most part - So not to much plugging needed here.. [7:05pm] imchandave: and I've got a 100Mb/s connection. [7:05pm] RandalSchwartz: Ooh - I can get a room at the hampton for $118, 30 less than the conf hotel, and it's right across the st [7:05pm] Zeeek: E4VOIP ROCKS [7:06pm] e4voip: Thanks zeeek [7:06pm] Zeeek: go to e4strategies.com right now and buy somethibg [7:06pm] e4voip: hhahaha! [7:06pm] Zeeek: preferably, something, very, very expensive [7:06pm] ricko73: e4voip: know where I could get a gigaset phone? [7:06pm] jasonwert joined the chat room. [7:06pm] topcat139: roger... just the way it is..:{ [7:07pm] e4voip: this is a good seller http://www.8774e4voip.com/Blah_p/widget2.htm [7:07pm] televoip: RandalSchwartz: Is the conference hotel full? [7:07pm] e4voip: great price! [7:07pm] ricko73: does that include shipping? [7:07pm] maximCH: lol [7:07pm] maximCH: I want it [7:07pm] maximCH: do we get a discount? [7:08pm] e4voip: That one pays 75% Commission for referrals [7:08pm] Guest18752: Instead of spending their money on Iraq, France spent money on infrastructure [7:08pm] imchandave: topcat139: let's compare wobbling.... [7:08pm] ricko73: sa-weeet [7:09pm] imchandave: wobble. [7:09pm] mjgraves: AT&T blows! [7:09pm] steely_glint: Population density helps to roll out good networks. [7:09pm] Zeeek: I'm not wobbling? [7:09pm] ricko73: Guest18752: please let's not get political... [7:09pm] imchandave: wobble [7:09pm] imchandave: wobble [7:09pm] e4voip: weeble [7:09pm] Zeeek: no one say the S word [7:09pm] imchandave: wobble [7:09pm] ricko73: weeble wobble's weeble but they don't fall down [7:09pm] ricko73: and we have liftoff! [7:10pm] e4voip: The CB Users Conference [7:10pm] Skibum: 10-4 [7:10pm] e4voip: roger [7:10pm] Guest18752: Not political, practical. I am not expressing an opinion, just the consequence of how you invest resources. [7:10pm] mjgraves: I'm in Houston...no problem [7:10pm] Zeeek: Karl's world [7:10pm] steely_glint: You know what Houston's reply was ? [7:10pm] ricko73: e4voip: what's your vector Victor? [7:11pm] steely_glint: "Say what 13?" [7:11pm] NerdUno: mjgraves: How do you get from your Gigaset to VUC? [7:11pm] ricko73: what's your clearance, Clarence? [7:11pm] DFrankel: I have to drop off; anybody interested in diagnosing ZipDX connection issues can email me (dfrankel@zipdx.com) and we can arrange to do some tracing/debugging. [7:11pm] jasonwert: ...and don't call me Shirley [7:11pm] Zeeek: NerdUno: register the phone with ZipDX and call 00 [7:11pm] Zeeek: works great [7:11pm] ricko73: Thanks as always DFrankel [7:11pm] Zeeek: uses a line [7:11pm] mjgraves: SIP URI mapped to a numeric extension using OnSIP, dial the ext number [7:12pm] Zeeek: DFrankel: bye thx [7:12pm] Zeeek: mjgraves: right ^^^^^ [7:12pm] DFrankel left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [7:13pm] RandalSchwartz: the conf hotel is $30 more per night [7:13pm] mjgraves: lack of vision is the problem [7:13pm] Zeeek: be there or be square [7:13pm] RandalSchwartz: I don't know if it's full or not... $30 for 4 nights is a lot of money to save [7:13pm] RandalSchwartz: I can walk across the street for $30 [7:13pm] Zeeek: RandalSchwartz: the escort service is costing me that much [7:13pm] Skibum: that is the room with no WC... [7:14pm] mjgraves: might be dangerouts crossing the street [7:14pm] mjgraves: after an evening in the bar [7:14pm] RandalSchwartz: I've walked through downtown Rio de Janeiro after evenings in a bar. [7:14pm] RandalSchwartz: glendale doesn't scare me [7:15pm] Zeeek: RandalSchwartz: stick around I'm about to end the recorded part [7:15pm] Zeeek: Rated R comes next [7:15pm] mjgraves: you're not drinking enough [7:15pm] RandalSchwartz: I want to let you hear my 3g mic live [7:16pm] RandalSchwartz: of course, it's through 729, so who knows [7:16pm] e4voip: 1984 [7:16pm] Zeeek: in the year 2525 [7:16pm] Guest18752: if man is still alive [7:16pm] Zeeek: next line ? [7:16pm] e4voip: ZAGER AND EVANS [7:17pm] e4voip: if man is wtill alive [7:17pm] e4voip: still* [7:17pm] e4voip: did i win a gigaset? [7:18pm] Guest18752: if woman can survive [7:18pm] televoip: they may find [7:18pm] Skibum: OOOh Hi Def again.... [7:19pm] steely_glint: No the HD voip in france telecom is part of their triple play. [7:19pm] ricko73: e4voip: you're a winner alright [7:20pm] ricko73: just step back to your stock room [7:20pm] mjgraves: putting the smarts in the network is exactly the wrong thing to do.