[09:54am] Zeeek: I have collected a lot of articles about mobiles, use and penetration [09:55am] Zeeek: I didn't look at the lable but one small bottle is an OLD one like the 70's [09:55am] Reubwen: did you see the one recently posted at GigaOM? [09:55am] Zeeek: no [09:55am] Reubwen: http://gigaom.com/2009/09/24/iphone-nokias-troubles-by-the-numbers/ [09:56am] Zeeek: yeah, but what about the top of the line N97 etc? [09:56am] Zeeek: Too high on the food chain to be sold a lot? [09:56am] Zeeek: Apple +600% that tells most of the story right there [5:20pm] RandalSchwartz joined the chat room. [5:20pm] RandalSchwartz: hey randulo - have you played with the weephone for iphone? [5:21pm] • ricko73 waves to merlyn [5:21pm] • RandalSchwartz waves back [5:21pm] RandalSchwartz: itunes.com/app/weephone-lite [5:21pm] ricko73: I remember him having some comments about it [5:21pm] RandalSchwartz: For $2, it can't be too bad. [5:21pm] RandalSchwartz: but only 711 and GSM, looks like [5:22pm] ricko73: I don't think the mic can handle more than that anyway [5:22pm] RandalSchwartz: maybe wideband is too much computation for the iphone [5:22pm] RandalSchwartz: no - we proved the 3g mic was better [5:22pm] RandalSchwartz: randy has rescinded his original complaints [5:22pm] RandalSchwartz: 2g mic = suck [5:22pm] RandalSchwartz: 3g mic = great [5:22pm] ricko73: but what about the 3gs mic? [5:23pm] RandalSchwartz: 3gs probably good too [5:23pm] RandalSchwartz: can't imagine them rolling back [5:23pm] ricko73: I'll be back in a bit. I need to shower and otherwise clean up around here... [5:23pm] RandalSchwartz: stuck with 3g for now, being punished as early adopter [5:24pm] RandalSchwartz: OK - just sprang for the $2 [5:25pm] RandalSchwartz: I'll try it with my gizmo account [5:28pm] akant2: I thought that Apple had a policy of blocking voip apps like this ? [5:29pm] akant2: What makes this different? [5:29pm] jasonwert joined the chat room. [5:30pm] JimCifarelli joined the chat room. [5:32pm] RandalSchwartz: not at all [5:32pm] RandalSchwartz: just google voice [5:32pm] RandalSchwartz: and the existing voip clients must be Wifi Only [5:32pm] RandalSchwartz: they must fail if being used on the carrier data net [5:33pm] RandalSchwartz: ok - just tested weephone with gizmo talking to skype echo service [5:33pm] RandalSchwartz: seemed to work [5:33pm] RandalSchwartz: but I have no idea about quality of call [5:34pm] RandalSchwartz: it was the normal muffled skype [5:35pm] akant2: That is great news.. [5:36pm] akant2: I hope to be getting 3GS in November and have been curious about these programs [5:36pm] jervin joined the chat room. [5:36pm] RandalSchwartz: does the wideband bridge support Speex? [5:37pm] dicodread joined the chat room. [5:39pm] TDF joined the chat room. [5:40pm] Zeeek: hey dudes [5:40pm] Zeeek: no speex [5:40pm] RandalSchwartz: ok [5:40pm] RandalSchwartz: and any call where I've "logged in to gizmo" is gonna be narrowband anyway, right? [5:40pm] Zeeek: yup [5:40pm] RandalSchwartz: because my sip client isn't calling some other server directly [5:41pm] RandalSchwartz: it's going through gizmo [5:41pm] Zeeek: yup [5:41pm] RandalSchwartz: is there a free sip server that supports wideband? [5:41pm] Zeeek: got your travel arranged for Astricon? [5:41pm] RandalSchwartz: hotel and plane are booked, as is the ride from the airport to glendale [5:41pm] RandalSchwartz: I'll probably just take a taxi back [5:41pm] Zeeek: so we only need to get the karaoke happening [5:41pm] Zeeek: I'm using a shuttle service [5:42pm] Zeeek: I booked it on the net [5:42pm] Reubwen joined the chat room. [5:43pm] RandalSchwartz: ahh. I could probably do that too [5:44pm] RandalSchwartz: So I paid the $2 for WeePhone... seems to work [5:44pm] RandalSchwartz: interface is clunky, but at least I can log in to Gizmo [5:44pm] You left the chat by being disconnected from the server. [5:50pm] blkry left the chat room. (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [5:51pm] J-MN joined the chat room. [5:51pm] Traveler joined the chat room. [5:51pm] Skibum: This is a great HD mike: Samson C01U [5:52pm] Traveler is now known as Guest18266. [5:52pm] Zeeek: Skibum: sounds fine [5:52pm] Skibum: ever seen one? [5:52pm] Skibum: it is huge [5:52pm] Zeeek: nope [5:53pm] RandalSchwartz: Oh - SJphone works nicely to zipdx [5:53pm] Skibum: http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1810 [5:53pm] RandalSchwartz: You're right, it does sound better. [5:53pm] RandalSchwartz: what is PCMU as a codec? [5:53pm] Skibum: 711u [5:53pm] RandalSchwartz: Oh - so not quite broadband yet [5:54pm] Skibum: not even close.. [5:54pm] RandalSchwartz: heh [5:54pm] thomas_austria joined the chat room. [5:54pm] RandalSchwartz: so is there any OSX client that supports broadband? [5:54pm] Skibum: I think I like Broadvoice 32 the best [5:54pm] Skibum: that or Speex WB [5:57pm] imchandave joined the chat room. [5:57pm] Rolfe joined the chat room. [5:57pm] RandalSchwartz: zipdx kept dumping me after a minute [5:57pm] NerdUno: Anyone using an Android phone? [5:57pm] RandalSchwartz: so I'm now on talkshoe bridge [5:58pm] dicodread: zipdx is droping sip connections [5:58pm] RandalSchwartz: ahh - so not just me. [5:58pm] e4voip joined the chat room. [5:58pm] Skibum: not for me [5:58pm] dicodread: I called back on the pstn and it hasnt dropped since [5:58pm] Skibum: widebacd? [5:58pm] Skibum: band [5:58pm] dicodread: no just 711 [5:58pm] e4voip: Is this breaking up horribly for anyone other than me? [5:59pm] NerdUno: We're on zipdx with SIP. No problem here. [5:59pm] RandalSchwartz: how does sjphone not require a server? [5:59pm] Skibum: no breakup at all here [5:59pm] RandalSchwartz: I didn't enter my gizmo credentials [5:59pm] e4voip: Randy sounds great [5:59pm] DFrankel joined the chat room. [5:59pm] middletn joined the chat room. [5:59pm] e4voip: Echo Echo Echo! [5:59pm] jtodd joined the chat room. [6:00pm] NerdUno: fixed echo [6:00pm] RandalSchwartz: is H.323 wideband? [6:00pm] Skibum: it isnt SIP [6:00pm] RandalSchwartz: Oh [6:00pm] RandalSchwartz: so I can't call in with that. [6:00pm] Skibum: I doubt it [6:01pm] RandalSchwartz: I'm muted, right? not causing echo? [6:01pm] dicodread: zeek how do you link the two bridges [6:01pm] dicodread: just curious [6:01pm] Skibum: Are you on your MAC Randy? [6:02pm] Skibum: hmmm wrong Randy... sorry [6:03pm] jervin left the chat room. (Remote closed the connection) [6:04pm] jtodd: So I'm dialed in on the ZipDX PSTN path since wifi here is incapable of handling >10kbps streams. [6:04pm] Rolfe: Couldn't get talkshoe with Firefox, IE works though? [6:04pm] Gigaset_Man joined the chat room. [6:04pm] jervin joined the chat room. [6:05pm] • e4voip slaps kneee [6:06pm] jsgoecke joined the chat room. [6:06pm] dicodread: ah just a conf call [6:06pm] dicodread: ok [6:06pm] steely_glint joined the chat room. [6:06pm] Reubwen: ZipDX greets me with "Now joining in Wideband" when dial directly to the bridge with the Citel. [6:07pm] Skibum: [6:07pm] steely_glint: How is the IAX on the citel ? [6:07pm] Reubwen: http://www.open-voip.com/blogs/blog1/2009/09/20/review-of-the-citel-c-4110-iax-and-sip-p [6:08pm] Reubwen: steely_glint: as good as it gets. [6:08pm] Skibum: anyone ever try dialing in from a windows mobile client over 3g? [6:08pm] Reubwen: steely_glint: next week I'm going to do G.722 pass-thru over IAX to the conference. [6:08pm] ricko73: how do you get duplicate packets on UDP? [6:08pm] Ottone joined the chat room. [6:09pm] ricko73: UPD by definition is send it and forget it [6:09pm] ricko73: UDP too [6:09pm] jsgoecke: Good morning/afternoon [6:09pm] Zeeek: ricko73: yeah ok, true [6:09pm] Zeeek: hey jsgoecke [6:09pm] Reubwen: Skibum: yeah, fiancee did it by mistake from Spain a few weeks ago... SJphone on a Samsung Omnia 900 (now she's getting herself a iPhone) [6:09pm] ricko73: udp is the 'ronco' of transport methods [6:09pm] kfife joined the chat room. [6:09pm] Skibum: hehe [6:09pm] e4voip: Anyone have questions for the Cloud Telecomputer Guys? RE: Android Phone --> http://www.cloudtelecomputers.com/ [6:10pm] kfife: Where's randy? I could hear him jumping up and down on one leg. [6:10pm] Guest18266: Don't all start talking at once [6:10pm] Reubwen: Skibum: but the quality was very good - albeit it became a bit expensive [6:10pm] jtodd: ssssh. Be vewwwy qwiet. We're hunting packets. [6:11pm] Skibum: cool [6:11pm] kfife: What's the CITEL phone model number? [6:11pm] Skibum: were you using Fring? [6:11pm] Reubwen: kfife: C-4110 [6:11pm] Skibum: oh SJ [6:11pm] e4voip: *6 [6:11pm] Qwell joined the chat room. [6:11pm] Reubwen: kfife: they only have one hardphone in their porfolio as far as I know. [6:12pm] kfife: Reubwen: I see, it's an IAX phone. [6:12pm] Guest18266: RAndy, you should ask if you can break into the conversation so as not to interrupt [6:12pm] Qwell: Zeeek: locally muted [6:12pm] Rolfe left the chat room. ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]") [6:12pm] Reubwen: Skibum: the only one I have found that does not cost me 1000-licences up front [6:12pm] Reubwen: kfife: http://www.open-voip.com/blogs/blog1/2009/09/20/review-of-the-citel-c-4110-iax-and-sip-p for my take on the beast [6:12pm] mjgraves joined the chat room. [6:12pm] Skibum: Have you tried Fring? It's free [6:12pm] Reubwen: kfife: one can define 2 SIP and one IAX2 account - but the phone has only 2 lines available. [6:12pm] mjgraves: hi [6:13pm] _3vain joined the chat room. [6:13pm] kfife: Reubwen: It looks like an Aastra OEM [6:13pm] Reubwen: Skibum: not on the windows mobile no... forgot that Fring is "everywhere". [6:13pm] Reubwen: kfife: ok. [6:13pm] kfife: Apparently Aastra made the phones for Nortel and others [6:14pm] Reubwen: and now Avaya is going to provide Nortel phones I guess... [6:14pm] kfife: The buttons, and industrail design look reminiscent of the Aastra 480 [6:14pm] NerdUno: if memory serves me, Aastra bought Nortel's phone hardware division [6:15pm] Reubwen: kfife: except for the Viagra coloured "Rls" (Release) button - I am quite pleased with the physical appearance of the phone. [6:15pm] Skibum left the chat room. [6:16pm] kfife: Reubwen: I wish the sound were better. I'm guessing they're using an old-school mic. For example the speaker on my Nortel M7310 (like most phones) is not good enough for G.711 [6:16pm] kfife: The RLS button is so Aastra/Nortel [6:16pm] RandalSchwartz: I'm now logged in via zipdx.com [6:17pm] Reubwen: cool geek point is that one can telenet into the phone and mess it up. [6:17pm] e4voip: Um.. No meeting w/ Cloud... [6:17pm] DFrankel: jtodd: I just love the Bugs Bunny line (or is it Barbara Walters?) [6:17pm] DFrankel: jtodd: Actually, Elmer Fudd. [6:18pm] Reubwen: kfife: I wonder if the sound on the Citel will better if I use the KlarVoice head set from our Snoms when using G.722. [6:18pm] e4voip: Cloud Guys got in a Roll Over Crash on the way to .e4 [6:18pm] e4voip: I guess they are ok.. [6:18pm] kfife: I'll bet you're right. Look at the C-4110 next to teh Aastra 9133i http://bit.ly/51iGR [6:19pm] kfife: e4voip: That' [6:19pm] kfife: e4voip: That's terrible. [6:19pm] RandalSchwartz: if I'm on the zipdx bridge, is it automatically wideband? [6:19pm] RandalSchwartz: or does that still depend on my client? [6:19pm] e4voip: That is terrible... [6:19pm] e4voip: They are ok.. [6:19pm] DFrankel: RandalSchwartz: It depends on your client. ZipDX announces "connected in wideband" if you are. [6:20pm] jsgoecke: When I dialed in as Linksys -> Asterisk -> ZipDX w/G722 enabled, I got connected but then noise [6:20pm] jtodd: I'm trying to get some big "enterprise"ish organizations to put their /etc/asterisk/ directories up and available. It's a tough discussion to win. [6:20pm] kfife: e4voip: Now that I know they're OK, I'll say "Any excuse not to go to work! Sheesh!" [6:20pm] uk-david joined the chat room. [6:20pm] e4voip: LOL! [6:20pm] jsgoecke: I guess I should make sure my Linksys supports G722 [6:20pm] e4voip: I'm surprised they bothered calling [6:20pm] Reubwen: kfife: the hand set looks 100% the same - same colour scheme on the various buttons - the volume control also look 100% the same except the coorus. [6:20pm] thomas_austria: reubwen, kfife: have you ever tried the avaya 9630 with g.722? [6:21pm] Zeeek: jtodd: has a sound rating today of .8 jtodds [6:21pm] Reubwen: thomas_austria: No - no easy access to avaya hardware. [6:21pm] e4voip: jsgoecke: Linksys supports g722 on the latest FW [6:21pm] Guest18266: Tell them to try the "dog ate my homework" line next time. [6:21pm] e4voip: Well... [6:21pm] jtodd: Everyone wants their dialplans to be "perfect" and what's the saying? Perfect is the enemy of the good. [6:21pm] JimCifarelli: Is there a "dialplan" example website? (tagged for purpose or code snippet) [6:22pm] jsgoecke: e4voip Thank you [6:22pm] Reubwen: jsgoecke: have you enabled G.722 pass-thru in your asterisk? [6:22pm] jtodd: So publish first, perfect later. [6:22pm] jsgoecke: As mine does not [6:22pm] jsgoecke: Reubwen, yes [6:22pm] uk-david: Hey Guys - sorry [6:22pm] uk-david: Hey guys - sorry I'm late [6:22pm] DelphiWorld joined the chat room. [6:22pm] DelphiWorld: hello all! [6:23pm] DelphiWorld: hello Gigaset_Man [6:23pm] uk-david: Randy - David Duffett here - I'm dialed in via the UK number [6:23pm] kfife: Can you tell us how you used disa? [6:23pm] Gigaset_Man: hello! [6:24pm] DelphiWorld: Gigaset_Man: what about you? are you a gigaset owner? [6:24pm] kfife: I have a question [6:24pm] Zeeek: go for it kfife [6:24pm] kfife: when the Q&a STARTS [6:24pm] imchandave: RandalSchwartz: You are still coming in in narrow-band. [6:25pm] dcdeadbeat joined the chat room. [6:25pm] elguero joined the chat room. [6:25pm] Zeeek: uk-david: of david [6:25pm] Zeeek: ok [6:26pm] Gigaset_Man: I own lots of Gigasets [6:26pm] Zeeek: let's bring you in as soon as karl makes his point [6:26pm] Zeeek: Gigaset_Man: how do you like them? Work pretty well, then? [6:26pm] DelphiWorld: Gigaset_Man: i have GIGASET C470IP [6:26pm] Gigaset_Man: They are the best darn phones EVER! [6:27pm] e4voip: agreed... [6:27pm] DelphiWorld: Zeeek: my GIGASET C470 is linked to my skype using freeswitch, and i'm dialing in to the conference using it [6:27pm] Zeeek: AGREED +1 [6:27pm] Gigaset_Man: Gigaet linked to skype using freeswitch... I need to get that on hte Gigaset Blog [6:27pm] DelphiWorld: Gigaset_Man: give me how to and i do it [6:28pm] DelphiWorld: realy i'm talking to the conference now using skype with a gigaset hideset [6:28pm] kfife: What's the URL for your web site? [6:29pm] RandalSchwartz: I now have an ideasip account, and I'm using x-lite beta 4 to talk to zipdx [6:29pm] Gigaset_Man: http://www.gigaset-blog.com/ [6:29pm] RandalSchwartz: I'm still not sure if I'm wideband. [6:29pm] DFrankel: RandalSchwartz: You are not in wideband. [6:29pm] RandalSchwartz: ok [6:29pm] RandalSchwartz: there are wideband codecs in x-lite [6:30pm] DFrankel: G.722 is what ZipDX supports. [6:30pm] RandalSchwartz: but not the other ones? [6:30pm] RandalSchwartz: ok [6:30pm] RandalSchwartz: so I might as well use the talkshoe bridge instead? [6:30pm] DFrankel: Whatever floats your boat. [6:30pm] ssokol joined the chat room. [6:31pm] RandalSchwartz: does it matter? [6:31pm] DFrankel: Not to me. [6:31pm] imchandave: RandalSchwartz: Try using phonerlite: http://phonerlite.de [6:31pm] mjgraves7 joined the chat room. [6:31pm] DelphiWorld: imchandave: yes phonerlite is good [6:33pm] DelphiWorld: Gigaset_Man: how to do a post? [6:33pm] mjgraves left the chat room. (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [6:34pm] mjgraves7 left the chat room. (Client Quit) [6:35pm] Gigaset_Man: you can do a Comment on the bottom of a story. The article entries are posted by the company. [6:35pm] DelphiWorld: Gigaset_Man: ok man, please chouse a story and give me the URL [6:35pm] RandalSchwartz: phonerlite looks to be windows. [6:35pm] kfife: Why 1.4 (vs. 1.6) given the recent August 2009 publish date? [6:35pm] jsgoecke: Yes, I know Nir! [6:36pm] Gigaset_Man: great idea and thanks! I will work on that ASAP. [6:36pm] middletn: 1.4 because there is still a huge installed base [6:36pm] imchandave: Sorry Randal...didn't know you were using a Mac/LInux box. [6:36pm] jsgoecke: kfife More users on 1.4, therefore a bigger audience [6:36pm] • DelphiWorld use freeswitch [6:36pm] mjgraves joined the chat room. [6:36pm] DelphiWorld: Gigaset_Man: give me the story [6:37pm] ssokol: Yep. I'm here. [6:37pm] jsgoecke: Hello Steve [6:37pm] RandalSchwartz: can I use my gizmo or ideasip credentials with a g722 phone and still connect? [6:37pm] RandalSchwartz: I mean ideasip is just providing my presence, right? [6:37pm] RandalSchwartz: not the actual call [6:38pm] steely_glint: Is there a sip URI I can use to call to reach a gigaset.net endpoint ? [6:38pm] jsgoecke: Great, Linksys provides their updates on Windows only, now I remember... [6:38pm] DelphiWorld: steely_glint: gigaset number@gigaset.net [6:39pm] e4voip: the older phones are .exe updates [6:39pm] wt5n joined the chat room. [6:39pm] steely_glint: I was getting congestion from that URI [6:39pm] mjgraves: tony at Gigaset told me that their registry is not externally available [6:40pm] DelphiWorld: steely_glint: i have a gigaset URI but i can't use it because SIP is blocked [6:40pm] mjgraves: only gigaset.net accounts can call gigaset.net accounts [6:40pm] DelphiWorld: mglol [6:40pm] steely_glint: Ok, so I need to beg a gigaset.net account. [6:40pm] Qwell: at Wells Fargo, the internal account-reset voice verification system was rather terrible. I wouldn't say it's secure at all. [6:41pm] mjgraves: wireshark the cred from a gigset phone [6:41pm] jsgoecke: I lost audio [6:41pm] DelphiWorld: please can anyone help me in debian? [6:41pm] DelphiWorld: i got a VPN acount now to solv my problem about sip blocking [6:41pm] DelphiWorld: i need to route trafic troug it [6:41pm] steely_glint: I'd have a gigaset account - except I set fire to the PSU on my free one. [6:42pm] steely_glint: jsgoecke - what are you using ? [6:42pm] jsgoecke: Google Voice [6:42pm] jtodd: David: start coding that MRCP stuff, and everyone would be happy. [6:42pm] RandalSchwartz: ok - qutecom doesn't seem to connect to ideasip [6:43pm] steely_glint: jsgoecke - try http://www.voipusersconference.org/2009/09/phone-from-here/#more-966 [6:43pm] steely_glint: [6:43pm] jsgoecke: [6:43pm] DelphiWorld: RandalSchwartz: twinkle [6:43pm] DelphiWorld: RandalSchwartz: linphone [6:44pm] imchandave: RTP over UDP: can be spoofed easily [6:44pm] jtodd: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/MRCP [6:44pm] jtodd: click on the commands at the bottom [6:45pm] RandalSchwartz: is twinkle or linphone OSX? [6:45pm] jervin left the chat room. (Remote closed the connection) [6:45pm] jsgoecke: Linphone I believe [6:46pm] imchandave: Randal: If you don't mind listen-only mode, you could load your Mac with Virtualbox and then run phonerlite in an XP/Vista VM. [6:46pm] _3vain: can't the system tell the person to tell something [6:46pm] _3vain: and it differs each time [6:46pm] RandalSchwartz: if I had a Vista license. [6:47pm] RandalSchwartz: I've never owned a copy of windows in my life [6:47pm] akant2: How do you all register with ZipDX with your GigaSet phones? [6:47pm] akant2: Username email and password pin ? [6:48pm] jervin joined the chat room. [6:48pm] akant2: registrar login.zipdx.com ? [6:49pm] mjgraves: akant2 I'd look it up but I'm not at my desk to check the Eyebeam account [6:49pm] imchandave: Randal: Are you an IEEE member? You could then use your IEEE membership to get an MSDN account and then a Windows license. [6:49pm] akant2: mjgraves no worries [6:49pm] DelphiWorld: help me please to setup my PPTP client;) [6:49pm] Zeeek: if you need to be un-muted please say so here in IRC [6:49pm] RandalSchwartz: oh great - I have to *build* linphone from ports. [6:50pm] mjgraves: thought you were a Gizmo5 user? [6:50pm] mjgraves: are they down? [6:50pm] RandalSchwartz: "so can you put me up for the night?" "sure, if you don't mind making your own bed" "hey wait, all I see is some lumber in there" "yup. gotta make your bed" [6:50pm] RandalSchwartz: mjgraves - I was trying to get on with 722 [6:51pm] RandalSchwartz: qutecom fires up [6:51pm] mjgraves: ah, be nice if Gizmo5 added G.722 [6:51pm] jtodd: Here's the religious war about databases.... [6:51pm] jtodd: [6:51pm] Qwell: .1 jtodds? [6:51pm] RandalSchwartz: but it doesn't seem to connect [6:51pm] petchaw joined the chat room. [6:51pm] Zeeek: censored! [6:51pm] jtodd: Censored by the packet gnomes. [6:52pm] ssokol: Anybody else get a huge dropout just now? [6:52pm] _3vain: lol [6:52pm] _3vain: yep [6:52pm] Reubwen: yepp. [6:52pm] jsgoecke left the chat room. (Remote closed the connection) [6:52pm] mjgraves: yes, much dropout [6:52pm] dicodread: whey thought it was just me [6:52pm] uk-david: yessir [6:52pm] RandalSchwartz: and the real question is, if I get a 722 client, can I use it with my gizmo or ideasip account? or do I need to get a service provider that can handle 722 [6:52pm] kfife: Best Database? The best choice is Paradox for Windows 3.1 [6:52pm] RandalSchwartz: postgres rules [6:52pm] RandalSchwartz: too bad I can't hear this right now [6:52pm] RandalSchwartz: mysql sucks [6:53pm] imchandave: MySQL needs a commercial license if used in a business context. Postgres does not have that requirement. [6:53pm] mjgraves: RandalSchartz if you have the client the provider won't generally matter [6:53pm] jtodd: Direct flights from Heathrow! [6:54pm] RandalSchwartz: postgres is more free than mysql [6:54pm] steely_glint: I have just done a silly oracle asterisk hack - originate calls from plsql [6:54pm] Reubwen: steely_glint: You Are The Man [6:54pm] kfife: steely_glint: didn't know you are also an Oracle guy. Me too since about '96 [6:54pm] kfife: c/96/94 [6:55pm] steely_glint: Yeah, since oracle 7 on solaris . [6:56pm] mjgraves left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [6:56pm] Guest18266 left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [6:56pm] imchandave: RandalSchwartz: If your 722 client supports SIP URI dialing then you don't need to have the client registered to a SIP registrar before dialing. [6:56pm] RandalSchwartz: gah - zoiper doesn't have 722 either [6:56pm] RandalSchwartz: still looking for a 722 client that works. [6:57pm] RandalSchwartz: lemme say that again. [6:57pm] Zeeek: weall are looking for g722 that works [6:57pm] RandalSchwartz: looking for a 722 client that works on OSX [6:57pm] Zeeek: for os x [6:57pm] Qwell: Polycom 650 [6:57pm] Zeeek: agreed [6:57pm] james86 joined the chat room. [6:58pm] jsgoecke joined the chat room. [6:58pm] Zeeek: portech [6:59pm] Zeeek: look at http://mgraves.org [6:59pm] imchandave: RandalSchwartz: would you be brave enough to try Wine for OS X and then run phonerlite? [7:00pm] Zeeek: imcdona: eeewwwwwwwwww [7:00pm] Zeeek: imchandave: ewwwwww was for wine [7:00pm] steely_glint: What do you want to do with the 722 client ? Orginate or recieve ? [7:01pm] RandalSchwartz: wine ick. [7:01pm] Zeeek: bleh [7:02pm] kfife: NO honey, you can't borrow my mobile phone - Don't want to violate the TOS!! [7:03pm] RandalSchwartz: is 722 just hard or new or no free libs or what? [7:03pm] RandalSchwartz: I don't need incoming calls [7:03pm] RandalSchwartz: just a client [7:04pm] Zeeek: Reubwen: is speaking now [7:04pm] jtodd: DelphiWorld: so FreeSwitch now is a G.722 client? Amazing! [7:04pm] Zeeek: he has a lot of experience in the mobile space [7:04pm] Zeeek: ZipDX 24: TS 11 [7:04pm] petchaw: How about if you use those sims with the gateway to provide hotline services only for example [7:05pm] kfife: jtodd: What's the value in the mobile tie-in if they're connecting to the PSTN? [7:05pm] petchaw: like hosting IVRs and those likes [7:05pm] steely_glint: RandalSchwartz: you could look at our iax web phone - it does 722 [7:06pm] kfife: jtodd: In other words, you can terminate to PSTN without a mobile tie in, so I must have missed the main idea. [7:06pm] dcdeadbeat left the chat room. [7:06pm] jtodd: DelphiWorld: I think the operative word here is "client". So there is a GUI-based, microphone/speaker control system that is for use by end users? I don't think there is. [7:06pm] RandalSchwartz: does it use X11 on OSX? Or native widgets? [7:07pm] steely_glint: Java - applet - http://www.voipusersconference.org/2009/09/phone-from-here/#more-966 is an example. [7:07pm] jtodd: kfife: from what I understand, the Bandwidth.com system is a SIM card, and then it is possible that when you dial a number, the call is passed out as an INVITE to your SIP platform. [7:07pm] jsgoecke: I had a friend in Barcelona do exactly this. Then I wrote him a little Adhearsion script that determined where he was at based on his TripIt.com profile to get the right number. [7:07pm] jsgoecke: As he had numbers for multiple countries. [7:07pm] jtodd: RandalSchwartz: I don't think there is yet a G.722 client for MacOS, is the short answer. There are several G.722-capable switches/proxies/app servers, but no clients. [7:08pm] RandalSchwartz: ok [7:08pm] steely_glint: Tsk,Jtodd - mine is [7:08pm] RandalSchwartz: qutecom looks like it wants to be, but I can't get it. [7:08pm] RandalSchwartz: steely_glint - where is yours? [7:08pm] jtodd: Ah, yes, of course. Tim's solution is. Web-based, though. [7:09pm] e4voip: Speaking of Skype for Asterisk --- $13 Off Discount Code SFA13 [7:09pm] thomas_austria: telekom austria offers all custumers to the mobile contract a sip-account, even with multiring [7:09pm] RandalSchwartz: I like how the widget ends up in a vertical scroll region [7:09pm] RandalSchwartz: like couldn't you have made it just a *bit* bigger? [7:09pm] Reubwen: e4voip: if we enter SFA90 - will we get 90% then? [7:09pm] ricko73: who's killing the keyboard? [7:10pm] jtodd: RandalSchwartz: mute, please [7:10pm] ricko73: thank you [7:10pm] jtodd: thanks [7:10pm] kfife: jtodd: so you essentially get out-of-band call setup, and bear the call on a different network. I can see that being a useful tool. [7:10pm] ricko73: damn! [7:10pm] ricko73: kfife: get off your bike! [7:10pm] e4voip: Reubwen: i wish [7:10pm] RandalSchwartz: not connecting. [7:10pm] RandalSchwartz: it says "answered", but then nothing else. [7:10pm] kfife: ricko73 NOT ME [7:10pm] steely_glint: Hit mute/unmute Randal [7:10pm] ssokol: Typist, mute thy self! [7:10pm] ricko73: whoever is doing it is typing [7:10pm] jtodd: kfife: yes, that I *think* is what they're offering. I've not yet received my invite to the beta. [7:10pm] _3vain: are they in a datacenter - those fans! [7:10pm] ricko73: whack-a-mole [7:11pm] RandalSchwartz: so it sends, but doesn't receive. nice. [7:11pm] kfife: jtodd: I can see a killer app for that being reduction in latency for certain calls by disintermediating the MTSO [7:11pm] steely_glint: RandalSchwatz - ping me off line I'll set you up a demo tim@phonefromhere.com [7:11pm] RandalSchwartz: well - I just got the demo. it didn't work. now what. [7:12pm] jtodd: OK, time for me to turn into a pumpkin. I'd say to everyone: "Get your reservations and tickets for AstriCon now! You'll have a great time!" [7:12pm] Zeeek: bye jtodd [7:12pm] RandalSchwartz: good thing I wasn't saying something bad. [7:12pm] Reubwen: The only problem I have GSM2VoIP stuff is the overly high price. [7:12pm] ricko73: jtodd: bye Cinderelli [7:12pm] kfife: jtodd: any invites left for that beta? [7:12pm] steely_glint: Yep [7:13pm] kfife: steely_gling, jtodd: I'd love one. [7:13pm] kfife: steely_glint: I'd love one. [7:13pm] Zeeek: ucpbx in eastern eu [7:14pm] Zeeek: someone please google it and insert link [7:14pm] kfife: http://www.ucpbx.com/ [7:14pm] steely_glint: Its IAX2 - we host and bridge out to SIP/Skype/Asterisk as needed. [7:14pm] jtodd: kfife: look at the speech from bandwidth.com folks on youtube - I think it was recorded, so I assume it's published. [7:14pm] jtodd: method for signing up was mentioned in the talk. don't recall exactly what it was. [7:14pm] steely_glint: kfife: sure - mail me - I'll set one up. [7:15pm] kfife: jtodd: thanks [7:15pm] jtodd left the chat room. ("This computer has gone to sleep") [7:16pm] Qwell left the chat room. ("Leaving") [7:16pm] steely_glint: Sure mail me off line tim@phonefromhere.com - [7:16pm] Ottone: me [7:17pm] Ottone: [7:17pm] akant2: me [7:17pm] kfife: i want it [7:17pm] akant2: [7:17pm] Ottone: hey hey! [7:17pm] ssokol: Dang... [7:17pm] akant2: too late dang [7:17pm] CompleteTech: is it just me or does $0.07 per minute seem high for conferencing? [7:17pm] ricko73: The answer is 42! [7:17pm] brycec joined the chat room. [7:17pm] Reubwen: CompleteTech: depends on where in the world you are. [7:17pm] Ottone: Oh... [7:18pm] JimCifarelli: ready... [7:18pm] Ottone: ...and I thought I had won [7:18pm] jsgoecke: ... [7:18pm] CompleteTech: reubwen: in the USA for a bridge call for a customer of mine [7:18pm] Ottone: music on hold for dialtone [7:18pm] kfife: music on hold class [7:18pm] ricko73: moh? [7:18pm] Ottone: hehe [7:18pm] Ottone: I was first [7:18pm] Ottone: no [7:18pm] ssokol: music class [7:18pm] Ottone: it is for "ringing tone" [7:18pm] Ottone: moh for ringint [7:19pm] Ottone: hehe [7:19pm] Ottone: YEAH! [7:19pm] steely_glint: Steve - you cant have one. [7:19pm] akant2: lol [7:19pm] CompleteTech: someone is excited breathing that hard [7:19pm] CompleteTech: lol [7:19pm] J-MN: shouldn't it be the looser gets the book, the winner doesn't need it but the looser does... [7:19pm] Reubwen: CompleteTech: it does not seem to be to expensive compared to Euro-prices. [7:20pm] akant2: First person to go on-hold with different, non-asterisk, based music wins [7:20pm] Ottone: I *did* correct it [7:20pm] akant2: [7:20pm] CompleteTech: Reubwen: I need to see good prices for these people. man I thought $0.07 ws super high! [7:20pm] Ottone: spamsucks [7:21pm] Ottone: spamsucks2005@giggle.com [7:21pm] ricko73: spamsucks2005@jiggle.com [7:21pm] Reubwen: CompleteTech: we have noe problem selling conference minutes for 0,59 USD. [7:21pm] Gigaset_Man: time for my mid-day nourishment session... hear ya next week. ciao [7:21pm] Ottone: SAM reciter [7:21pm] CompleteTech: Reubwen: are you serious.. WOW!! [7:22pm] ssokol: Stephen Hawking speakig dutch? [7:22pm] Gigaset_Man left the chat room. (Remote closed the connection) [7:22pm] Reubwen: CompleteTech: that is for outgoing calls [7:22pm] CompleteTech: Reubwen: it is basically everyone cxalling in to it for support during a cutover type of a thing [7:22pm] _3vain: edit it out... [7:23pm] uk-david: 4569? [7:23pm] ricko73: 4569 [7:23pm] brycec: 4569 [7:23pm] Ottone: 4569 [7:23pm] kfife: 4569 [7:23pm] CompleteTech: 1 [7:23pm] _3vain: 5038 [7:23pm] ssokol: 5038 [7:23pm] ricko73: 42 [7:23pm] Ottone: 5038 [7:23pm] Ottone: yeah - i got two books now [7:23pm] Reubwen: you can defined your own port. [7:23pm] Reubwen: so any number goes... [7:23pm] Ottone: I would even do that [7:23pm] ssokol: heheh [7:24pm] _3vain: okay - i'll email [7:24pm] steely_glint left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [7:25pm] DaveM_ joined the chat room. [7:25pm] DaveM_: does the font type of the m determine the music style? [7:25pm] maximCH: when will they write the 1.6 book? [7:26pm] DaveM_: it seems more reasonable to give the book to the folks that didn't know the answers [7:26pm] Zeeek: asterisk.co.uk [7:26pm] Ottone: asteriskpro.co.uk? [7:26pm] Zeeek: http://asteriskpro.co.uk [7:26pm] Zeeek: http://www.asteriskpro.co.uk [7:26pm] middletn: www.asteriskpro.co.uk [7:26pm] mjgraves joined the chat room. [7:27pm] ricko73: http://vuc.me [7:27pm] maximCH: when will they write the 1.6 book? [7:27pm] jsgoecke: GOTO?! Eeek. [7:27pm] ssokol: Better yet, when will they write a "trunk" book that keeps up with the absolute latest changes? That would be a cool book. [7:28pm] Ottone: When will you write a book on Yate? [7:28pm] jsgoecke: I always did love Spaghetti with Marina Sauce [7:28pm] Zeeek: jhahaha [7:28pm] james86: i am currently using 1.6 in production. [7:28pm] jsgoecke: PHP has Goto now too [7:28pm] Zeeek: The Trunk Book™ [7:28pm] james86: we have 4 servers. [7:28pm] Zeeek: I like it [7:28pm] ricko73: ...dial(SIP/foo|30|tr) must go to dial(SIP/foo,30,tr) in 1.6 [7:28pm] jsgoecke: Must be the latest in modern programming [7:29pm] james86: exactly. it was a new solution we built from scratch, so it seemed to make sence to go for the latest [7:29pm] Ottone: CDRs are so messed up in 1.4 [7:30pm] Ottone: And g726 is now completely useless (best free codec for thin lines) [7:31pm] Zeeek: PEOPLE OF EARTH, ATTENTION [7:31pm] imchandave: v1.6 requires DAHDI. DAHDI does not compile on Linux 2.4.x [7:31pm] DaveM_: that was abby hoffman, not jerry ruben [7:31pm] ricko73: People of the earth stood waiting... [7:31pm] ricko73: watching as the ships came one by one [7:32pm] kfife: zeeek: _Another_ beer? [7:32pm] kfife: zeeek: Does that mean you were HWI? [7:32pm] kfife: Hosting while intoxicated [7:32pm] imchandave: [7:33pm] imchandave: But it's 4:00am over here at that time. [7:33pm] NerdUno left the chat room. ("Quit") [7:34pm] jsgoecke: I am coming [7:34pm] mjgraves: ce mois? [7:34pm] maximCH: no... [7:34pm] ssokol left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [7:34pm] kfife: How does the DRM work on these PDF books? [7:34pm] DFrankel: Not coming. [7:34pm] kfife: Are they password protected. [7:34pm] kfife: ? [7:34pm] RandalSchwartz left the chat room. [7:34pm] • ricko73 will be there [7:34pm] Ottone: Rostock [7:35pm] DaveM_: DaveM will be there. [7:35pm] DaveM_: wine tasting [7:35pm] mjgraves: I'll bring some wine [7:35pm] mjgraves: at least a little [7:36pm] DaveM_: Fred P will be there. [7:36pm] imchandave: Wear a silly grin [7:36pm] maximCH: pitchers for breakfast [7:36pm] mjgraves: shirts with ip addresses on the back? [7:36pm] _3vain: lol [7:36pm] DaveM_: mine will say DHCP [7:36pm] mjgraves: 127.0.0.1 is where the root is [7:37pm] mjgraves: very little...from my Canadian grade school time [7:37pm] uk-david: Mine would be an XL [7:37pm] imchandave: Use IPv6! [7:38pm] mjgraves: sip uris on the shirts? [7:38pm] _3vain: just put vuc.me [7:38pm] DaveM_: vistaprint does cheap custom shirts. [7:38pm] james86 left the chat room. [7:39pm] imchandave: DFrankel said he's not going. [7:39pm] ricko73: http://www.coacheschoiceapparel.com/ [7:40pm] jsgoecke: going [7:40pm] Zeeek: going [7:40pm] ricko73: boing [7:40pm] mjgraves: going [7:40pm] uk-david: going [7:40pm] DaveM_: going [7:40pm] CompleteTech: wish [7:40pm] ricko73: boing [7:40pm] maximCH: not going [7:40pm] maximCH: yep... wish [7:40pm] jsgoecke: But I am getting tired of Glendale/Phoenix [7:40pm] Zeeek: tim going [7:40pm] CompleteTech: is there a way to "WIN" free trip to it??? [7:40pm] CompleteTech: [7:40pm] kfife: not going [7:40pm] kfife: ...this year [7:40pm] Zeeek: mjgraves: going [7:41pm] DaveM_: e4 has not decided [7:41pm] Zeeek: fred going [7:41pm] mjgraves: trying NOT to bring my Mrs [7:42pm] uk-david: No, my wife (or the fun prevention officer, as I call her) is not going... [7:43pm] kfife: Not much of a PDA though is it? [7:43pm] _3vain: why not? [7:43pm] uk-david: How about t-shirts that say "I VUC on Fridays"? [7:43pm] mjgraves: gotta run folks...see ya next week [7:43pm] _3vain: like it [7:44pm] Zeeek: kfife: this is where you'll need to start the editied part 2 [7:44pm] mjgraves left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [7:44pm] _3vain: PDA functions - like what? [7:44pm] _3vain: lol [7:45pm] _3vain: no - use wifi [7:45pm] akant2: boooo [7:45pm] uk-david: @jsgoecke Agree - AZ is getting a bit samey... [7:45pm] _3vain: you can synch with Exchange [7:45pm] _3vain: Gmail [7:45pm] _3vain: on and on and on [7:45pm] e4voip: fanboy.. laughing [7:45pm] DaveM_: android [7:45pm] _3vain: should be _3vian, but mis typed as i was in a rush - not my normal computer [7:46pm] _3vain is now known as _3vian. [7:46pm] CompleteTech: anyone a graphics designer? I need some new cards [7:46pm] NerdUno joined the chat room. [7:46pm] uk-david left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [7:46pm] uk-david: Got to go guys - will try to get on the call next week - Bye [7:47pm] _3vian: push mail [7:47pm] fred-tmft joined the chat room. [7:48pm] _3vian: there are apps [7:48pm] jsgoecke: I have to run, everyone have a good weekend. [7:48pm] kfife: jsgoecke: see you! [7:49pm] jsgoecke left the chat room. [7:49pm] _3vian: lol [7:51pm] CompleteTech: anyone a graphics designer? I need some new cards thegrandrapidsbest@gmail.com [7:51pm] CompleteTech left the chat room. [7:51pm] _3vian: cards? what kind? [7:51pm] ricko73: _3vian: he's gone [7:57pm] _3vian: Randy: does it push with it is in sleep? my iphone doesn't via wifi, only GSM link [7:58pm] Zeeek: _3vian: i don't know [7:58pm] akant2: Anyone here use HD Hero ? [7:58pm] akant2: HTC Hero [7:58pm] _3vian: gmail push? [7:58pm] akant2: New Android phone coming out from Sprint [7:58pm] _3vian: calendar has been around for awhile, but gmail email is new [7:59pm] _3vian: BES - but it is very expensive [7:59pm] akant2: I am curious about anyone's experience with it in Europe [7:59pm] fred-tmft left the chat room. ("Exited... hopefully not forever") [7:59pm] _3vian: BES goes on top of exchange, lotus, groupwise... [8:00pm] akant2: until new CDMA iphone comes out for Verizon [8:02pm] _3vian: the same thing happened with windows... [8:02pm] _3vian: vs mac [8:03pm] akant2: _3vian does that mean we will be able to run Android on an iphone some day with Parrellels [8:03pm] akant2: [8:03pm] _3vian: lol [8:03pm] DFrankel: Is anybody still on Talkshoe? [8:03pm] _3vian: yep [8:03pm] jervin left the chat room. (Remote closed the connection) [8:03pm] _3vian: i can dial ZipDX if needed [8:04pm] akant2: Can someone send me a link that shows me how to connect to ZipDX with Gigaset A580 in HD [8:04pm] NerdUno: For a good Android comparison to iPhone, see Nerd Vittles article tomorrow. [8:04pm] kfife: NerdUno: excellent [8:05pm] NerdUno: right [8:05pm] DaveM_: can we order sizes? [8:05pm] NerdUno: Correction: Nerd Vittles article is on Monday. Forgot the weekend. [8:05pm] DaveM_: no [8:05pm] DaveM_: every t shirt is way too small [8:05pm] e4voip: Who is Wearing the .e4 Shirts? [8:06pm] e4voip: [8:06pm] akant2: ugh I need XXXXL [8:06pm] kfife: XXXXM [8:06pm] kfife: very very very precisely medium sized [8:06pm] e4voip: I need an XXXXS [8:06pm] NerdUno: Rumor has it Android phone for Sprint will be out next month. [8:06pm] akant2: NerdUno: Oct.11 [8:06pm] DaveM_: why not VUC leather jackets. [8:06pm] ricko73: e4voip: I heard you already HAD XXXXS [8:07pm] ricko73: e4voip: has that missing part shipped? [8:07pm] e4voip: yup.. [8:07pm] e4voip: Jason is limping.. [8:07pm] ricko73: nice [8:08pm] NerdUno left the chat room. ("Quit") [8:09pm] J-MN: Don't they use AC to ring the phone? [8:09pm] DaveM_: DC is harmless? [8:09pm] e4voip: ricko73: out for delivery [8:10pm] ricko73: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=1495804028&aid=2017186#/photo.php?pid=30275854&id=1495804028 [8:12pm] DaveM_: due to the recession, a picture is only worth 450 words [8:12pm] ricko73: nice [8:14pm] akant2: lol [8:15pm] _3vian: for how much per month? [8:16pm] _3vian: damn! that is cheap [8:16pm] _3vian: how much is a sat link? [8:16pm] _3vian: 25,000 per hour? [8:18pm] ricko73: http://mkebots.org/?q=node/323 [8:19pm] ricko73: http://barcampmilwaukee.org/ [8:20pm] Reubwen: I just bought the Asterisk 1.4 The Professional's Guide. [8:22pm] Zeeek: livestream livepack [8:23pm] Zeeek: google this ^^^^^^ [8:23pm] akant2: what was that URL again [8:23pm] akant2: ? [8:24pm] imchandave: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/livestream-launches-livepack-61070612.html [8:24pm] _3vian left the chat room. [8:24pm] Zeeek: http://LiveStream.com [8:28pm]