xx.xx.xx.xx[4:48pm] maximCH: anyone have the jajah twitter beta thing? [4:49pm] maximCH: http://jajah.com/products/twitter/ [4:54pm] DelphiWorld: conf up or no? [4:54pm] maximCH: up [4:55pm] • DelphiWorld going to zipdx [4:58pm] TheDavidFactor: what do you have to do access zipdx? If I dial the sip number I get a busy/congested message after it rings once [4:59pm] ricko73: TheDavidFactor: how are you dialing it? [5:00pm] ricko73: I'm muted locally [5:00pm] maximCH: in Jamaica it's time to smoke [5:00pm] TheDavidFactor: I've got an * server so I've an extension set up: [5:00pm] ricko73: until next week when the time will be different [5:00pm] TheDavidFactor: exten => 111,1,Dial(SIP/200901@login.zipdx.com) [5:01pm] DelphiWorld: hi Gigaset_Man [5:01pm] ricko73: TheDavidFactor: are you on Asterisk 1.6? [5:01pm] TheDavidFactor: yes [5:01pm] Gigaset_Man: hello! [5:01pm] TheDavidFactor: 1.6.1.6 [5:01pm] ricko73: hmmm [5:02pm] ricko73: I'm dialing directly from my polycom atm [5:03pm] ricko73: are we supposed to be on the wave? [5:03pm] Zeeek: You can be if you want [5:04pm] Zeeek: waving isn't yet mandatory [5:04pm] TheDavidFactor: well I'll listen using the web widget for now and try to sort it out later [5:04pm] Zeeek: Speaking: Tim Panton, Westhawn Ltd [5:05pm] Zeeek: Speaking: Brian Reynolds [5:05pm] Zeeek: http://voice.ibook.com [5:05pm] ricko73: who's got the kitchen in the background? [5:05pm] Zeeek: ricko73: Tim is at eComm! [5:06pm] Zeeek: or was... [5:06pm] Zeeek: silence detection alorithm [5:06pm] Zeeek: to genereate "utterances" [5:06pm] Zeeek: codec used GSM [5:06pm] ricko73: any chance he could mute when not talking? [5:07pm] ricko73: it's coming through quite loud [5:07pm] Zeeek: hahaha walking the plank [5:07pm] ricko73: seriously, that's distracting [5:08pm] ricko73: much better [5:08pm] kfife: hi guys. [5:09pm] Zeeek: kfife: yo [5:09pm] • ricko73 waves to kfife [5:09pm] ricko73: google waves that is [5:09pm] Zeeek: System to annotate the audio recordings [5:09pm] Zeeek: Speaking: Brian Reynolds [5:09pm] kfife: ricko73 [5:10pm] kfife: Sounds like AM radio through a pillow [5:10pm] Zeeek: 0.9 jtodds [5:10pm] kfife: .1 JT's [5:10pm] Zeeek: no way to measure since jtodd is absent [5:10pm] ricko73: kfife: he's using a tin can connected to a POTS line with GSM in there somewhere too [5:11pm] Zeeek: making voice as ubiquitous as text [5:11pm] kfife: I've got a todd-o-meter (expensive but worth it) , it's registering a high .1 [5:11pm] Zeeek: kfife: I have a jtoddscope wich is much more accurate, but you need samples of the orginal [5:11pm] ricko73: kfife: if you were at Astricon you could have experienced full jtodd quality [5:12pm] kfife: ricko73: Maybe a POT with a string [5:12pm] kfife: Just set up a mediawiki. Can't believe how easy it was. [5:12pm] Zeeek: ZipDX 23: TS 4 [5:13pm] ricko73: kfife: I like dokuwiki [5:13pm] Zeeek: reminder, Tim's screent cast: http://blip.tv/file/2762980 [5:13pm] kfife: ricko73: what do you like better about it? [5:13pm] RandalSchwartz: hey Zeeek [5:14pm] Zeeek: kfife: you need a jtoddscope to calibrate the jtoddmeter anyway [5:14pm] ricko73: kfife: depends on your needs. It can be installed to not use a database at all [5:14pm] Zeeek: RandalSchwartz: yes? [5:14pm] RandalSchwartz: just responding to your "hey randal" [5:14pm] Zeeek: oÔo [5:16pm] beek: Hey RandalSchwartz -- Half-price happy hour this evening at the martini bar across the street from me. [5:16pm] Zeeek: heh [5:16pm] TheDavidFactor: it sounds like it turns a voice call in to an im group session [5:16pm] Zeeek: speaking Ray Tong (sp?) [5:17pm] kfife: dokuwiki: like the plain-text storage model. There's a lot to be said for simple, even when it comes to simple IO cost. [5:17pm] Zeeek: Like a conference as a collection of sound files over a long period [5:18pm] TheDavidFactor: what is an "elevator" pitch? [5:19pm] ricko73: kfife: yep. Depends on what your needs are. mediawiki is probably easy to work with, but it's heavier [5:19pm] Zeeek: It's a way to say what the heck you're doing in a few sentences [5:19pm] ricko73: TheDavidFactor: elevator pitch is a quick 30 second description or pitch of your product [5:19pm] ricko73: something that you could explain in a short elevator ride [5:20pm] TheDavidFactor: never heard that before, I like it; I'll be using that phrase all next week [5:20pm] JimCifarelli: Apple must own any word starting with 'i' ....they may even own the regular expression i.* [5:20pm] kfife: ricko73: I like the idea of doing what most everyone else is doing - lots of support & migration options when you look at the fifteen year picture. [5:20pm] kfife: TheDavidFactor: [5:20pm] Zeeek: as in being in an elevator [5:20pm] DFrankel: @TheDavidFactor: I saw you asked about dialing into ZipDX. If you tell me how to identify your call, I'll look at our logs and try to diagnose. [5:21pm] TheDavidFactor: it should have been from 208.34.240.2 [5:21pm] ricko73: kfife: dokuwiki has been around for a long time [5:22pm] kfife: Also sounds like you wouldn't have to spend a month reconstructing arcane normalizations to "Get your data out" [5:22pm] Zeeek: speaking michael graves [5:22pm] packetman: @DFrankel dialed in using zipdx coming from 216.114.116.120 and lost audio but kept the call out. [5:22pm] Zeeek: We could be the Tivo™ of VUC™ [5:22pm] TheDavidFactor: I don't have an exact timestamp, sorry; should be right before 11:58 PM EST [5:23pm] Zeeek: eSt? [5:23pm] ricko73: Zeeek: will be EST after Sunday 2am [5:23pm] Zeeek: yes [5:23pm] kfife: ricko73: Was looking for my notes from an earlier conference in which you mentioned that simple sendmail alternative -- SMTP Auth vs setting up SPF. Can you remind me of the name? [5:23pm] Zeeek: I noticed [5:23pm] DFrankel: @TheDavidFactor: I see your call. I suspect you aren't handling re-INVITEs correctly. [5:24pm] ricko73: kfife: msmtp [5:24pm] Zeeek: DFrankel: so many asocial endpoints! [5:26pm] TheDavidFactor: kids, birds, not much difference except in volume [5:26pm] Zeeek: yeah [5:26pm] andre2: When I dial into ZIPDX I have no audio, going on hold, then off 'fixes' it [5:26pm] imcdona: does asterisk 1.4 alliow g722 passthrough? [5:26pm] packetman: I get this message when I drop the audio: Oct 30 11:25:58] NOTICE[5874]: chan_sip.c:19764 handle_incoming: Unknown SIP command 'UPDATE' from 'xx.xx.xx.xx' I think it's a re-invite issue [5:26pm] Zeeek: andre2: interesting! [5:26pm] Zeeek: speaking Tim Panton from the bar [5:27pm] • Zeeek downloaded a 25gig file last night thru a proxy with no problems [5:27pm] andre2: yeah, does it from a few different Polycom phones [5:27pm] andre2: perhaps our FW [5:28pm] beek: Distasteful? On this call? I can't imagine it. [5:28pm] Zeeek: anyone need to be unmuted anywhere? [5:28pm] DFrankel: @packetman: We send periodic UPDATE messages; they shouldn't affect the audio and if you can't handle them you shouldn't break. [5:28pm] Zeeek: beek: actually other than me, it's never happened [5:29pm] beek: Zeeek: I'm not sure that the line exists on this call. [5:29pm] ricko73: beek: Zeeek was only distasteful with his printer [5:29pm] beek: I remember that one... [5:29pm] packetman: when i sip dial to talkshoe the calls stays up....I am doing transcoding on the Asterisk box. If I do a show sip channels when dialed into zipdx I see Peer User/ANR Call ID Format Hold Last Message Expiry [5:29pm] packetman: 192.168.222.67 3500 318821a-d3e2b28 0x4 (ulaw) No Rx: ACK [5:29pm] packetman: xx.xx.xx.xx 200901 2968cb4c482c5bc 0x1000 (g722) No Rx: ACK [5:30pm] DFrankel: @packetman: I'm not sufficiently familiar w/ Asterisk to know what that means. [5:31pm] ricko73: packetman: what's your local end point? does it support g722? [5:31pm] ricko73: if so are you set up to allow g722 on that end point [5:32pm] packetman: No it's a linksys phone. I think that's my next step to get a g722 endpoint from work and try it next week and see if it's any better. [5:33pm] imchandave: packetman: the SIP UPDATE sent by ZipDX is empty. And the SIP sequence associated with it is different from the sequence number associated with the SIP INVITE/OK conversation linked with the audio RTP. [5:33pm] packetman: Yep. the SIP is the control and audio is the RTP...not thinking straight [5:34pm] alrs: Good morning. [5:34pm] imchandave: DFrankel: I also had problems connecting with ZipDX for this conference call. I had to dialin 3 times before I got successful audio. [5:34pm] Zeeek: hey lars [5:34pm] JimCifarelli: I was just commenting on mp3's as an example because I find it frustrating when I download a 1 hour podcast covering three topics and I'm left with listening to the entire podcast or hunting for the last topic. [5:34pm] Zeeek: long time no C [5:34pm] imchandave: I'll check my logs for the RTP endpoints for your end. [5:35pm] Zeeek: ZipDX24: TS 7 [5:35pm] alrs: Zeeek: I put VUC on my resume under professional groups, so now I'm duty-bound to at least show up in the IRC channel. [5:35pm] Zeeek: alrs: indeed! [5:35pm] packetman: Zeeek I'm working to move one more [5:35pm] Zeeek: need a reco on Linkedin? [5:36pm] alrs: I'd take one and reciprocate [5:37pm] alrs: I'm not hurting, but recruiters are digging up my months-old resume postings because there is so much demand for people that know Ruby in LA [5:37pm] Zeeek: DARTH.... careful of the mic noise [5:38pm] Zeeek: RandalSchwartz: it's all perl! [5:40pm] kfife: ...connecting in wideband [5:40pm] Zeeek: ooooooo [5:41pm] Zeeek: alrs: I dm'ed you here [5:42pm] dcdeadbeat: I miss wideband. I started a new job and have not gotten the IT department to allow me to plug in my Polycom. I have to use this 15 year old Meridian phone on Talkshoe. [5:42pm] kfife: dcdeadbeat: M7310? [5:43pm] Zeeek: there was a presentation at eComm https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com!w%252B9eE6H1CuH [5:43pm] dcdeadbeat: kfife: M2616 with display (it says) [5:43pm] imcdona: Got my IP450 working on the G722 bridge. The quality is so much better. [5:44pm] Zeeek: "The Rise of Real-Time Text and the Demise of Voice " [5:44pm] dcdeadbeat: imcdona: my IP450 is sitting in a box since it is contraband here at this company [5:45pm] qxork: I switched to Aastra and haven't had the same problems I did last week. Odd... but still going through Asterisk and g722 [5:48pm] cthompson: I'm listening to the conference, is there a widget or something that lists who's speaking when [5:48pm] cthompson: I came in late so I'm confused as to what's being discussed [5:49pm] beek: cthompson: http://www.zipdx.com/Guest/200901 [5:50pm] RoadKill: we are discussing a conference system takt will trancripe [5:50pm] cthompson: cool [5:50pm] Zeeek: cthompson: I try to do that manually too [5:51pm] Zeeek: Speaking:Dfrankel of ZipDX [5:51pm] RoadKill: with recordind of the individual speaker (multi channe sound file) [5:52pm] cthompson: interesting. [5:52pm] Arie-babyTEL: Hi! [5:52pm] Zeeek: If anyone wants to test [5:53pm] alrs: trying to get to vuc.me to find a pots dialin, page won't load [5:53pm] Zeeek: Google Voice's transcription, leave us a message [5:53pm] Zeeek: alrs: 1 sec [5:53pm] TheDavidFactor: alrs: 5672522286 [5:53pm] Zeeek: g711 sip:7463#22622#PIN@proxy.ideasip.com - Talkshoe PSTN: +1 724 444 7444 [5:53pm] Zeeek: g722 sip:200901@login.zipdx.com - ZipDX PSTN: +1 567 252 2286 [5:54pm] Zeeek: VUC.me loads fine here btw [5:54pm] Arie-babyTEL: alrs: I dialed 1-888-ZipDX-88 then used the code 200901 [5:54pm] TheDavidFactor: Zeeek, VUC.me works fine from here too; NC USA [5:55pm] Zeeek: We'd appreciate it if you called the normal, non-rtoll free numbers for ZipDX? [5:55pm] Arie-babyTEL: I tried but I just got a busy signal [5:55pm] Arie-babyTEL: Sorry [5:55pm] Zeeek: what number? [5:56pm] Arie-babyTEL: the 567 one [5:56pm] cthompson: I just pointed X-Lite at 200901@login.zipdx.com [5:56pm] alrs: just came in pots on talkshoe [5:56pm] Arie-babyTEL: is it just me or is the talkshoe call a different one? [5:58pm] Arie-babyTEL: Thanks [5:58pm] TheDavidFactor: I'm calling in on the 567 and it let me in, but that was earlier [5:58pm] TheDavidFactor: I've been on for a while now [5:58pm] Arie-babyTEL: Yeah I have to go soon too but I'll be back next week - Glad I found out about this chat [6:00pm] TheDavidFactor: what is eComm? [6:01pm] Zeeek: http://voice.ibook.com [6:02pm] Arie-babyTEL: Catch you next week! [6:03pm] ricko73: whoaoa [6:03pm] Ottone: Zeek, is some of that music freely available? [6:03pm] Ottone: Damn, I am 1 hour late [6:04pm] Zeeek: Ottone: you like that music? [6:04pm] Ottone: yeah [6:05pm] Zeeek: You can download it, yea [6:05pm] _3vian: the future deskphone is not what we would call a desk phone? [6:05pm] Zeeek: Ottone: http://randulo.posterous.com/200920-the-log-jam [6:05pm] Zeeek: It's called "Log Jam" [6:05pm] Ottone: some speedy fusion sound [6:05pm] Ottone: k [6:07pm] Zeeek: oops, I didn't realize it was autostart [6:07pm] TheDavidFactor: if you have style who needs substance? [6:07pm] ricko73: I self-muted...I should be able to put this call on hold right and not send moh to the conf right? [6:07pm] Zeeek: ZipDX 22: Talkshoe 5 [6:07pm] Ottone: SNOM is fast moving and innovative indeed - not without error, but still somehow cool [6:07pm] Zeeek: ricko73: sure [6:08pm] ricko73: no music right? [6:08pm] Zeeek: no music [6:08pm] Zeeek: except mine [6:08pm] ricko73: cool [6:08pm] Zeeek: Where's Fred? [6:08pm] Zeeek: ` [6:08pm] Ottone: hehe [6:09pm] Zeeek: Jacke: yopu want to speak? [6:09pm] Zeeek: anyone on Talkshoe need to be unmuted? [6:09pm] Zeeek: I heard "what we have in our laps" [6:09pm] Zeeek: I was gonna say [6:09pm] beek: Wait for us... we're the leader! [6:09pm] Zeeek: beek: LOL [6:10pm] Zeeek: RandalSchwartz: got stuck in the cheap happy hour [6:11pm] Jacke: Zeeek: I'm in a noisy caffee, i'll just listen for now [6:12pm] RoadKill: I know it is a bit late but it is now posible to call the conference on +4588887797 (Denmark) [6:15pm] JDBalogh: http://www.apple.com/imac/ 27" iMac [6:15pm] alrs: I experienced a landmark this week. [6:15pm] alrs: I got my first "my freeswitch configuration is totally fucked and my consultant abandoned me hallllpppppp!" call [6:16pm] imcdona: Anyone know how gizmo is able to route calls to cell carriers via VoIP? Wouldn't it make sense for all the cell carriers to make their sip proxies public? [6:16pm] qxork: sorry... had a call... coming back [6:16pm] imcdona: Wouldn't every carrier WANT people to terminate traffic to their networks via SIP? [6:16pm] qxork: 26 people still on, amazing [6:17pm] qxork: Two words: mac mini [6:17pm] TDF2 is now known as TDF. [6:18pm] qxork: yup... im back [6:22pm] ricko73: http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2009/10/28/funeral-4-favre-one-green-bay-radio-stations-way-of-saying/ [6:22pm] Zeeek: imcdona: totally true [6:22pm] Ottone: hehe - clock hacking! [6:23pm] JDBalogh: what is the URL for the POE NTP clock? [6:23pm] Ottone: in the local fitness club here they seem to speed up the clocks 15 minutes around closure to get the people out faster [6:23pm] televoip: I've used the Valcom SIP Intercoms. Good stuff. [6:23pm] Ottone: so WHAT is the real time? [6:25pm] Ottone: That clearly is a low quality provider [6:25pm] _3vian: they have physical time servers for that [6:25pm] ricko73: I have a valcom door phone installed at a client [6:25pm] ricko73: works very nicely [6:25pm] Ottone: If they cannot sync the clock then there is a lot of other stuff they also cannot do [6:25pm] ricko73: push button, calls a few phones, they press a button to unlock the front door [6:26pm] JDBalogh: UTC offset: http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/gpstt.html [6:27pm] DelphiWorld is now known as vcxpro. [6:27pm] vcxpro is now known as DelphiWorld. [6:28pm] Ottone: DCF77 is the Germanone [6:28pm] televoip: I just lost audio. Is it just me? [6:29pm] Ottone: But I guess Paris is outside the reception area [6:29pm] Zeeek: bordeaux not paris [6:29pm] DelphiWorld: televoip: hi [6:30pm] jasonwert: dxing [6:30pm] Ottone: Hm no, in Paris this should be fine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCF77 [6:30pm] televoip: Hi. [6:31pm] DelphiWorld: televoip: i think you own teleplanet;) [6:32pm] ricko73: http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/monsters__inc_/roz.jpg [6:32pm] ricko73: Roz [6:32pm] JDBalogh: Roz / #1 is great. [6:32pm] televoip: My Asterisk box just locked up. This isn't the first time. I gotta figure out what is happening [6:33pm] JDBalogh: http://www.ntp-digital-wall-clock.com/digital-wall-clock.htm (NTP wall clock using PoE power) [6:33pm] DelphiWorld: televoip: my freeswitch box never lock down [6:33pm] televoip: lol. [6:33pm] alrs: televoip: as in the computer machine stopped, or just Asterisk gave up? [6:34pm] JDBalogh: I have this problem. When people turn the power switch off, the phones stop ringing. ROFLOL! [6:34pm] televoip: The machine locked up. [6:34pm] televoip: I guess I'll be looking at log filess oon [6:34pm] alrs: televoip: Probably not going to find anything in the logs. Sounds like hardware. [6:34pm] JDBalogh: Bye for now... [6:35pm] alrs: televoip: Do you have some kind of zaptel card in there? [6:35pm] televoip: My last server would server panic and I moved it to Xen. This is doing the same thing. Weird [6:35pm] televoip: No cards. All sip [6:35pm] alrs: so the Xen domU crashes, or the Xen dom0 crashes? [6:35pm] televoip: I am running Dahdi dummy for timing and conference [6:36pm] televoip: Don't know yet. [6:36pm] alrs: do the other Xen instances on that machine crash as well, I'm asking. [6:36pm] televoip: No just mine [6:36pm] ricko73: televoip: what version? [6:37pm] televoip: 1.6.1 [6:37pm] alrs: televoip: What distribution? [6:37pm] alrs: I still won't run anything past 1.4 [6:37pm] televoip: Centos [6:37pm] televoip: I'm questioning my decision too [6:38pm] beek: 1.6.0.15 has been rock solid for me. [6:38pm] beek: Not virtualized though. [6:38pm] qxork: I never liked virtualized asterisk [6:39pm] qxork: rarely do it. [6:39pm] alrs: qxork: I used to run it in Xen with a zaptel card configured for pci pass-through [6:39pm] alrs: that worked well [6:39pm] televoip: I was running 1.6.0 until I had hardware problems. Moved to 1.6.1 when I virtualized [6:39pm] alrs: but that was Debian [6:39pm] ricko73: televoip: the latest 1.6.1? [6:39pm] ricko73: 1.6.1.8? [6:40pm] ricko73: if not, update to that before trying to find problems that may already be fixed [6:40pm] televoip: 1.6.1.6 [6:40pm] televoip: Yea. Looks like I need to upgrade again [6:41pm] Ottone: BOF [6:41pm] ricko73: BOF? [6:41pm] Ottone: no, BOH of coruse [6:41pm] alrs: televoip: My favorite configuration is to stick to the Debian-packaged stuff. Use module-assistant to build zaptel to your kernel. [6:41pm] Ottone: typos all over this place [6:41pm] beek: audio porn [6:41pm] RoadKill: cat fight [6:42pm] alrs: televoip: some of the 1.6 features are backported in to the 1.4 packaged in Lenny [6:42pm] alrs: I've run hundreds of concurrent channels through it using only ztdummy without incident [6:42pm] ricko73: 1.4.x will be the 'long term support' version [6:42pm] televoip: I wish I had some log files to at least give me an idea of what is wrong. I hate to make changes without knowing why. [6:43pm] alrs: televoip: you have all kinds of log files in /var/log. If the domU is crashing there won't be any info in them, because a crashed machine can't write logs. [6:44pm] televoip: I guess not log at least indicates where to look. [6:44pm] televoip: *no log [6:46pm] imcdona: how do I access the "wave" [6:46pm] RoadKill: you have to ask the sufer dude [6:46pm] imcdona: sufer? who is that? [6:47pm] alrs: the sulphur dude [6:47pm] imcdona: is that a nick or what? [6:48pm] alrs: imcdona: RoadKill dropped the "r" in surfer-dude [6:48pm] alrs: like Keanu Reeves in Point Blank [6:48pm] ricko73: televoip: you need to tell Asterisk to increase logging [6:49pm] televoip: Good idea. I just looked a /var/log/messages and the log just stops and then restarts [6:49pm] imcdona: Ahh I guess surfer-dude is not in IRC today [6:49pm] alrs: imcdona: He was alluding to surfers riding waves. [6:50pm] RoadKill: no he is out with his board on the beach [6:50pm] imcdona: hehe...got it [6:50pm] imcdona: dimdim.com [6:51pm] imcdona: 100% free [6:51pm] andre0: http://www.ustream.tv/ [6:52pm] linuxninjas: @televoip : you want to check your inbound traffic patterns. 2 asterisks boxes of mine had problems yesterday and today. Seem that I got a steady stream of around 384 Kpbs of sip invite requests to [6:53pm] linuxninjas: both asterisk servers. Coming from Romania. I had to block a network at the firewall in order for the asterisk servers to recover. [6:53pm] RoadKill: yes you have to be carful with that [6:54pm] RoadKill: one of our customer has his asterisk on aa public IP with guest allow [6:54pm] televoip: I will check that right away. That could be a big problem. [6:54pm] RoadKill: he ranked up at 2000$ bill for calls to cuba [6:54pm] RoadKill: befor we cut the line [6:55pm] televoip: I'm not worried about calls, but I don't want my server crashing all the time. [6:56pm] RoadKill: always nice that your provider (me) set at account limit [6:57pm] RoadKill: the calls was made over 3h before the system auto closed the account [6:57pm] linuxninjas: I had to block 77.81.0.0/16 today - I have not done detailed analyses for the logs yet (it already weekend over here ...) but what I found out that they were trying to do sometime like a dictionary attack on 2 extensions I had defined to accept some IPKALL DID's [6:59pm] linuxninjas: on my todo list is now : http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Fail2Ban+%28with+iptables%29+And+Asterisk [6:59pm] alrs: linuxninjas: part of the problem is that Asterisk will usually tell you whether an extension is configured or not [7:00pm] alrs: so it isn't very difficult to write a script that runs through them sequentially and find the real ones and then start hammering on them [7:00pm] RoadKill: that is way number only account is a very bad [7:01pm] televoip: I'm contacting my security guy now to shutdown my ports. [7:01pm] RoadKill: snom [7:02pm] alrs: just installed the sofia sip utils on this laptop [7:02pm] alrs: linuxninjas is running asterisk 1.6.0.15 [7:02pm] alrs: doesn't have extensions configured on 100 or 1000 [7:02pm] alrs: they both 404 [7:03pm] linuxninjas: true [7:04pm] linuxninjas: a sad day when you need a session border controller in a home asterisk setup ... [7:04pm] alrs: but a script that motored through 100-10000 would tell me in minutes which extensions were available [7:14pm] RoadKill: regardign to virtual and hardware it depend on the setup [7:15pm] ricko73: sorry, couldn't resist the 'magic bus' comment [7:15pm] RoadKill: in OpenVZ you can prush a device out to the virtual server [7:16pm] RoadKill: depending on the device it is even posible to share the device [7:20pm] televoip: There are some cases where virtualization is the only choice. [7:20pm] televoip: We have used all the power availalbe in our building. [7:20pm] RoadKill: well we use virtualicasion for our customers [7:20pm] qxork: true [7:20pm] RoadKill: running 50 asterisk on each server [7:20pm] qxork: we did a study on some of the test servers we did [7:20pm] televoip: I can't stand up a new server everytime we need something [7:21pm] RoadKill: but each asterisk only serve about 10-30 phones [7:21pm] qxork: and the problem we had was that idle, the virtualizon server cost us more in power than 20 shitty server which more than handled what we needed [7:24pm] beek: brb -- need more tea [7:25pm] ricko73: http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=bedwlr1&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=45&kc=poweredge-t110 [7:25pm] NerdUno: Dell's make great Proxmox boxes, too [7:26pm] ricko73: http://www.areca.com.tw/ [7:27pm] ricko73: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=42927 [7:30pm] beek: So, what is Randy having for dinner tonight now that he's batchin' it. [7:30pm] beek: ?? [7:31pm] maximCH: he's a bachelor tonight... so my guess is frozen pizza or Lasagna... [7:34pm] imchandave: maximCH: sniff, sniff, I don't smell Randy burning dinner... [7:36pm] imchandave: Proxmox --- appears to be Linux-kernel-based for the clustering system. [7:37pm] Zeeek: beautifully done junk-food pizza [7:37pm] imchandave: Zeeek: and you didn't burn it this time! [7:37pm] Zeeek: listening to the gerat geekspeak and realizing I'll have to edit Part 2 to publish it, definitely workth listening to [7:37pm] beek: He likes his pizza extra-crispy [7:37pm] Zeeek: No, but it's still garbage! [7:38pm] Zeeek: it's very crispy, but not black like it usually is [7:38pm] Zeeek: ok, I've dropped two phones now [7:39pm] televoip: As seems to happen, work beckons. See you all next week. [7:40pm] Zeeek: I heard a gigaset ring in there [7:41pm] e4voip: hello [7:41pm] Zeeek: hey e4voip [7:42pm] NerdUno: yep. It was the reminder to get my little girl from school. Bye. [7:42pm] Zeeek: how you doin' ? [7:42pm] Zeeek: bye! [7:42pm] NerdUno: Doin great [7:42pm] NerdUno: Sorry I was late today. Talk to you next week. [7:42pm] e4voip: Ditto above [7:42pm] Zeeek: cool Ward see you [7:43pm] Zeeek: Guys if you want to test GV transcription, I invite you to record a SHORT message or two and I'll publish it all [7:43pm] Zeeek: (707) 701-3856 [7:43pm] ricko73: Zeeek: I was NOT impressed with GV transcription. I recorded a simple message and it was about 50% accurate [7:44pm] Zeeek: mine were ok [7:44pm] Zeeek: but requires more testing [7:45pm] Zeeek: I have a few accoints now [7:45pm] ricko73: must be that 'northern usa speak' dialect [7:45pm] Zeeek: could be [7:45pm] ricko73: I set one up for our Kiwanis club [7:54pm] Ottone: Looks like u are coming closer to needing a phone with BIG buttons [7:54pm] Ottone: [8:01pm] alrs: I'm bailing on the coffeeshop where I've set up camp with my laptop. Look forward to next week. [8:02pm] beek: You're not old, Randy. [8:06pm] Zeeek: look at this for example: http://mtld.mobi/emulator.php [8:08pm] beek: out for more tea... [8:09pm] e4voip: I tossed my phone... [8:09pm] e4voip: no more mobile for me! [8:10pm] ricko73: e4voip: It would be difficult for me to do that, but I'm envious [8:16pm] e4voip: it IS hard... [8:16pm] e4voip: But - QoL is up [8:18pm] ricko73: my vacation was the positive for QoL [8:33pm] Zeeek: still 13 people on the line! [8:33pm] Zeeek: so e4voip are you listening? [8:33pm] e4voip: i'm listening [8:33pm] Zeeek: ok [8:33pm] Zeeek: here I am [8:34pm] J-MN: Where is this documents for the nokia phone ss stuff? [8:34pm] e4voip: Hi... is this slow as hell for anyone else? http://www.8774e4voip.com [8:34pm] J-MN: yes [8:34pm] ricko73: seemed slow [8:35pm] beek: e4voip: worked okay here [8:35pm] J-MN: GSM 07.07 right? [8:35pm] beek: Lotsa pictures loading... [8:35pm] Zeeek: e4voip: 64 bytes from 69.49.184.144: icmp_seq=0 ttl=106 time=219.050 ms [8:35pm] Zeeek: 64 bytes from 69.49.184.144: icmp_seq=1 ttl=106 time=324.943 ms [8:35pm] Zeeek: 64 bytes from 69.49.184.144: icmp_seq=2 ttl=106 time=217.032 ms [8:35pm] Zeeek: 64 bytes from 69.49.184.144: icmp_seq=3 ttl=106 time=248.123 ms [8:35pm] Zeeek: 64 bytes from 69.49.184.144: icmp_seq=4 ttl=106 time=368.398 ms [8:35pm] Zeeek: 64 bytes from 69.49.184.144: icmp_seq=5 ttl=106 time=224.571 ms [8:35pm] Zeeek: very slow [8:36pm] e4voip: thank..... [8:36pm] J-MN: Thanks for the GSM info!! [8:37pm] beek: e4voip: From here the whole page loaded in ~2 seconds, pictures and all. [8:37pm] beek: (different browser, on cached data) [8:37pm] RandalSchwartz: whoa... looks like Siphon (jailbroken iphone) might have 722 and 729 codecs [8:37pm] beek: Zeeek: your audio is real load. [8:37pm] e4voip: it is strange.... not sure what the hell is going on- [8:37pm] beek: low [8:37pm] RandalSchwartz: what was the test number? [8:37pm] RandalSchwartz: wbdemo [8:37pm] RandalSchwartz: something lik ethat [8:37pm] e4voip: Like the rest of us here... I guess the site doesn't want to work on friday [8:38pm] J-MN: eyeBeam has G722. I'm using it now. [8:38pm] RandalSchwartz: wbdemo@something.zipdx.com [8:38pm] RandalSchwartz: what was the "something" [8:38pm] Zeeek: login or conf [8:39pm] RandalSchwartz: you guys don't remember the demo account [8:39pm] DFrankel: sip:wbdemo@conf.zipdx.com [8:39pm] RandalSchwartz: the one that says "sorry, you're on narrowband" [8:40pm] beek: Zeeek: Speak up! You're audio is way down. [8:40pm] RandalSchwartz: crap - it just immediately goes to "call ended" [8:41pm] e4voip: get Closer - hold it like a mic [8:41pm] RandalSchwartz: I can't connect to wbdemo [8:42pm] RandalSchwartz: is there another url that I can test whether I'm on wideband? [8:42pm] DFrankel: @RandalSchwartz: Try wbdemo@conf.hificonf.com and I'll look at your SIP messages. [8:42pm] DFrankel: @RandalSchwartz: You are offering the G.722 codec. [8:43pm] RandalSchwartz: I can turn that off [8:43pm] DFrankel: @RandalSchwartz: We like G.722 [8:43pm] RandalSchwartz: why is it hanging up immediately on that [8:43pm] RandalSchwartz: Oh - then it's good [8:43pm] RandalSchwartz: why is it hanging up then? [8:44pm] RandalSchwartz: same thing when I tried hificonf [8:44pm] DFrankel: So give me a moment to look at the messages. [8:44pm] RandalSchwartz: ok [8:44pm] RandalSchwartz: thanks [8:46pm] DFrankel: We receive your INVITE, send you TRYING then RINGING then OK, and you send BYE. [8:46pm] DFrankel: Not immediately obvious to me why you sent BYE. Apparently you didn't like the OK. [8:47pm] RandalSchwartz: heh... maybe didn't like the kind of ok. [8:47pm] DFrankel: At this point, you can try taking G.722 OUT, and see what happens. [8:47pm] RandalSchwartz: Yeah - that's what I was going to suggest [8:47pm] DFrankel: Our OK selects the G.722 codec, since you offered it. [8:49pm] RandalSchwartz: without 722, I'm connected in narrowban [8:50pm] jasonwert: That's Mr. Merlyn to you [8:50pm] Zeeek: @merlyn [8:50pm] Zeeek: VUC ME! [8:50pm] e4voip: proper use of a IP 7000 - http://tinyurl.com/nk4o3 [8:50pm] Zeeek: Heavly Edited!!!! [8:50pm] DFrankel: @RandalSchwartz: It appears that your client doesn't "really" support G.722, then. [8:51pm] jasonwert: VUC that... [8:51pm] RandalSchwartz: and when 722 enabled again, it immediately hangs up [8:51pm] DFrankel: @RandalSchwartz: Since it hangs up when we choose G.722, but works OK when we use G.711. [8:51pm] e4voip: http://twitpic.com/nk4o3 [8:52pm] RandalSchwartz: I wonder why it has a switch to enable 722. [8:52pm] imchandave: e4voip: When you're pressed for desktop space... [8:52pm] DFrankel: http://code.google.com/p/siphon/issues/detail?id=289 [8:52pm] RandalSchwartz: ... http://code.google.com/p/siphon/issues/detail?id=289 [8:53pm] RandalSchwartz: ahh - I can look at the log here. [8:53pm] DFrankel: So it seems that G.722 on Siphon is just non-functional. [8:53pm] beek: brb [8:53pm] RandalSchwartz: oops. no log there [8:54pm] e4voip: imchandave: or you are too lazy to snag a longer patch cable [8:54pm] RandalSchwartz: ahh - rest of bug tells why [8:54pm] e4voip: I have a friend named richard bender [8:54pm] RandalSchwartz: insufficient cpu in my phone [8:54pm] e4voip: sucks to be him [8:54pm] Zeeek: RandalSchwartz: no way, my ipod will do all those SIP clients [8:55pm] Zeeek: I never tried the jailbroken ones [8:55pm] RandalSchwartz: do any of your sip clients handle 722? [8:55pm] RandalSchwartz: and the ipod touch is actually *faster* than the iphone [8:55pm] Zeeek: not the old one [8:55pm] RandalSchwartz: I thought you hadn't found a 722 client [8:56pm] Zeeek: never got it working$ [8:56pm] RandalSchwartz: no - the old ipod touch is in fact *faster* than the iphone 3g [8:56pm] RandalSchwartz: they kept the iphone slower so the battery life would be longer [8:56pm] Zeeek: WHAT? You don't have a 3gS? [8:56pm] RandalSchwartz: told you that. [8:56pm] RandalSchwartz: just a 3g. [8:56pm] Zeeek: who remebers all this trivia? [8:56pm] RandalSchwartz: are you getting old? [8:56pm] Zeeek: especially at happy hour [8:57pm] Zeeek: I AM DRINKING RUN [8:57pm] Zeeek: errrrr [8:57pm] Zeeek: rum [8:57pm] Zeeek: seriously [8:57pm] Zeeek: I can do it only on very rare occasions [8:57pm] Zeeek: like when we run out of beer [8:57pm] beek: back [8:57pm] Zeeek: RandalSchwartz: I can't believe the iPhone 3g would be too slow, though [8:58pm] RandalSchwartz: go read the bug report [8:59pm] RandalSchwartz: well - I'm still looking for a good OSX desktop 722 client too [8:59pm] RandalSchwartz: that one at the show showed promise [9:00pm] RandalSchwartz: that reminds me, I gotta go through my stuff [9:00pm] RandalSchwartz: pull out the four people I found for floss weekly [9:22pm] Zeeek: http://www.youtube.com/user/randulo2008#p/a/u/1/zMf6Q_LVekw [9:23pm] Zeeek: RandalSchwartz: you might want to get in touch with Michael Iedema in Germany too Askozia pbx [9:27pm] J-MN: Zeek you need green chartreuse... [9:27pm] qxork: repost [9:44pm] J-MN: Do NOT send her the data. The police may not think the same way you do. [10:03pm] J-MN: Here's a better one: http://www.netstumbler.org/f4/doonesbury-cartoon-2850/ [10:03pm] imchandave: http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2002/db020721.gif [10:04pm] Zeeek: The next Napster? Watch how easy it is to get free internet. Tonight, on Fox 11 News at 10. [10:04pm] imchandave: Too late... [10:11pm] DelphiWorld is now known as Freeswitch-Love-. [10:11pm] Freeswitch-Love- is now known as DelphiWorld. [10:21pm] Zeeek: Aswath Rao: Trapezoidal VoIP 5h34m52s [10:41pm] Zeeek: 6 HOURS !!!!!!!!!!! [10:42pm] e4voip: W00t! [10:44pm] Zeeek: Hey, we once did a 24 hour live podcast: the KivaThon [10:45pm] e4voip: At a dollar a min this call has cost a over a K to attend.... [10:45pm] e4voip: counting for those others listening in too.. [10:46pm] Zeeek: no one is paying AFAIK [10:46pm] Zeeek: although including the pizza, the run, the beer and the electricity, I probably spent $100 myself [10:46pm] Zeeek: route arounf *THIS* [10:47pm] imchandave: Man, Chrome on Mac is sweet! [10:47pm] Zeeek: oh? Never tired it [10:47pm] Zeeek: tried [10:47pm] Zeeek: what is sweet about it ? [10:47pm] Zeeek: ah, soon I can turn off the PC [10:47pm] imchandave: Fast! faster than safari... [10:48pm] Zeeek: I never found safari that fast [10:48pm] Zeeek: MSIE 4, on the other hand... [10:48pm] imchandave: Well, it's Chrome > Safari > Firefox in term of quickness. [10:49pm] Zeeek: I'd rather have stability [10:49pm] Zeeek: but also, I'm ready to go to bed now [10:49pm] Zeeek: and this time I stopped the recording and now these guys are into a whole thing again [10:50pm] Zeeek: SO RECORDING is ON [10:54pm] Zeeek: my call dropped [10:54pm] Zeeek: rootkit based browser, cool! [10:55pm] DFrankel: And you were calling through some IP-PBX, right? [10:55pm] Zeeek: DFrankel: yes onsip.com to my pbx [10:55pm] Zeeek: 3à seconds then dropped [10:55pm] Zeeek: at the reinvite I guess [10:57pm] Zeeek: my local recording of the call is over 1 gig [10:58pm] imchandave: Frak! my Siemens just ran out of juice after 6+ hours.....I guess it's time to go to sleep for me. Great discussions, guys. Talk with you next week (unless I have a date).