[6:00pm] maximCH: sip:200901@login.zipdx.com that is [6:00pm] l-fy: we just got our reprap [6:01pm] DFrankel: Press *6* to avoid the acknowledgement from ZipDX [6:02pm] DFrankel: Actually, the second * just stops the announcement. [6:02pm] Zeeek: l-fy are you coming ???? [6:02pm] DFrankel: So listen long enough to hear what mode you're in. [6:02pm] l-fy: Zeeek: trying [6:02pm] l-fy: now [6:02pm] abalashov joined the chat room. [6:02pm] abalashov: Howdy [6:03pm] dicodread: is the skype dropping in and out? [6:03pm] DocAwesome: Zeeek: big fan of dropbox [6:03pm] DFrankel: I hear some drop-outs in the Skype audio. [6:03pm] DocAwesome: 200! congrats! [6:03pm] akant2: hear hear [6:04pm] FearNoIdea: I think I have nearly all of them downloaded [6:04pm] FearNoIdea: Missing 3 sessions [6:06pm] NerdUno joined the chat room. [6:06pm] l-fy: working [6:07pm] FearNoIdea: 724.444.7444 [6:07pm] maximCH: hey Zeeek ... I just connected to talkshoe with SIP and it worked [6:07pm] FearNoIdea: ID: 22622# [6:09pm] l-fy: calling [6:09pm] l-fy: i'm in [6:09pm] DFrankel: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/business/01digi.html?_r=1 [6:09pm] petchaw: how do I connect to talkshoe via SIP? [6:09pm] DelphiWorld: l-fy: press *6 [6:10pm] l-fy: done [6:10pm] DelphiWorld: petchaw: see the topic [6:10pm] l-fy: i'm in [6:11pm] DelphiWorld: what is the person actualy talking? [6:11pm] Zeeek: Where ? [6:11pm] DelphiWorld: Zeeek: in zipdx [6:11pm] l-fy: in the conference [6:11pm] Zeeek: Speaking Alex Balashov [6:11pm] l-fy: zipdx [6:12pm] l-fy: i'm in [6:12pm] l-fy: i can hear you [6:12pm] l-fy: damn what should i press? [6:13pm] DFrankel: *6 to unmute [6:13pm] Zeeek: l-fy *6 [6:13pm] DFrankel: @l-fy: How are you dialed in? [6:14pm] l-fy: :200901@login.zipdx.com [6:14pm] DFrankel: What sort of phone/client are you using? [6:14pm] l-fy: let me dial again [6:14pm] DFrankel: I'm trying to figure out which call is you [6:14pm] l-fy: called again [6:15pm] Zeeek: abalashov: by the way you can see the zipdx console thingie [6:16pm] Zeeek: someone enter the guest URL for the ZipDX console pls? [6:16pm] abalashov: Zeeek: How so? [6:16pm] abalashov: ah [6:16pm] DaveM_ joined the chat room. [6:16pm] Zeeek: URL [6:16pm] l-fy: guys [6:16pm] l-fy: i did called [6:16pm] l-fy: i do hear the tone after *6 [6:16pm] l-fy: i will call again [6:16pm] Zeeek: DFrankel: what is the URL for the Zipdx console? [6:16pm] Zeeek: l-fy ok [6:17pm] l-fy: called now [6:17pm] l-fy: after pressing *6 i hear the tone [6:17pm] TDF: http://www.zipdx.com/Guest/Code [6:17pm] DFrankel: http://guest.zipdx.com/200901 [6:18pm] l-fy: guys i'm therre [6:18pm] DocAwesome: Don't talk to the cops! http://joepcremers.nl/wordpress/?p=1621 [6:18pm] DFrankel: *6 should give you an announcement, not a tone. [6:18pm] l-fy: i did press *6 [6:18pm] DocAwesome is now known as leifmadsen. [6:18pm] leifmadsen: hey new intro, nice [6:18pm] l-fy: i get a small beep [6:18pm] abalashov: l-fy: We'll figure out what's going on. [6:18pm] l-fy: to which number should i call? [6:18pm] abalashov: l-fy: Give us just a moment.. to get the intro over with [6:18pm] abalashov: l-fy: It sounds like you dialed into the right place. [6:18pm] nexsip joined the chat room. [6:19pm] abalashov: l-fy: Just give Randall a minute here to get to the bottom of this. [6:19pm] l-fy: k [6:19pm] abalashov: [6:19pm] leifmadsen: btw, for an on topic link, I found this site useful for calculating Erlang: http://owenduffy.net/traffic/erlangc.htm [6:20pm] l-fy: i can hear you [6:20pm] l-fy: cool [6:20pm] l-fy: enable me [6:21pm] l-fy: ok, where is the link? [6:21pm] l-fy: i can [6:21pm] l-fy: nokia sip phone dial into yate server [6:21pm] l-fy: and i do send the dtmf's [6:21pm] l-fy: diana.null.ro server [6:21pm] l-fy: nokia something [6:21pm] l-fy: may be [6:21pm] l-fy: that's Monica [6:22pm] l-fy: [6:22pm] l-fy: she wrote FreeSentral [6:22pm] DaveM_: If there is anybody on this flight that knows how to fly a plane, the captain would like to see you [6:22pm] Ottone: Tech note: It would really help if the ZipDX conf admin would be able to see the SIP Agent strings - possibly also IPs or hostnames [6:22pm] akant2: Almost ghost'ish [6:22pm] leifmadsen: I imagine that is because it's on Monicas phone [6:22pm] akant2: spookey [6:22pm] leifmadsen: that you're hearing her [6:23pm] DaSunnyD joined the chat room. [6:23pm] profsr joined the chat room. [6:24pm] DFrankel: @Ottone -- it would be really helpful if people would connect using more reasonble Display Names. [6:24pm] Zeeek: yeah [6:24pm] Ottone: Sure - but you cannot control that [6:24pm] TDF: whats wrong with eyebeam [6:24pm] Ottone: And what do you do if u dial in with the Java applet? [6:24pm] Ottone: Just as an example [6:24pm] Zeeek: oil the chairs [6:25pm] Zeeek: http://freesentral.com [6:26pm] Zeeek: Speaking Diana Cionoiu, (yate) [6:26pm] Zeeek: AGI [6:26pm] Zeeek: and monica [6:26pm] Zeeek: or monika ? [6:27pm] Zeeek: ZipDX:23 Talkshoe:3 listeners [6:29pm] Zeeek: null.ro [6:29pm] Zeeek: Easy configuration, GPL license [6:30pm] Zeeek: Freesentral-based solutions [6:30pm] Zeeek: svn access [6:31pm] DelphiWorld: l-fy: freeSentral is available for win32? [6:31pm] Zeeek: dowload yate [6:32pm] DelphiWorld: ok i see [6:33pm] Zeeek: yate 2.1 nov 2 [6:33pm] Zeeek: Speaking Alex Balashov [6:33pm] _3vian left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [6:33pm] leifmadsen: wow, I'm getting crazy jitter [6:33pm] • DelphiWorld used yate for Iax/H.323 to sip [6:33pm] Zeeek: I was for a sec [6:33pm] RB2 joined the chat room. [6:34pm] Zeeek: Topic is yate 2.1 and also http://FReesentral.com [6:34pm] Zeeek: call sip:200901@login.zipdx.com [6:37pm] imchandave joined the chat room. [6:38pm] Zeeek: DFrankel: I'm dialed in thru our GV number [6:38pm] DFrankel: I guess I should try a 2nd call myself and see what happens! [6:38pm] DaveM_: is there a google wave for this call? [6:38pm] Zeeek: apparently as Inverness, CA [6:38pm] Zeeek: sounds great [6:39pm] • Zeeek is dialed in to (518) VUC-VOIP [6:40pm] DFrankel: @Zeek -- it is not working for a 2nd call. [6:40pm] DFrankel: @Zeek -- ZipDX answered and put me into the conference, but I think GV is playing a recording and looking for a response. [6:41pm] Zeeek: DFrankel: what about calling the special VUC/Zipdx direct? [6:41pm] DFrankel: @Zeek -- and then GV hangs up on ZipDX and sends the call to voicemail. [6:41pm] Zeeek: DFrankel: that's good, no? [6:41pm] DFrankel: @Zeek -- you mean the number GV forwards to? [6:41pm] Zeeek: ya [6:41pm] DelphiWorld: what codecs is supported in FreeSentral? [6:41pm] Zeeek: that can accept more chans, right? [6:42pm] Zeeek: poor Alex, with the cats, g-dogs and monkeys and his allergies [6:43pm] DFrankel: @Zeek: I am connected now by dialing the 567 number directly. [6:43pm] Zeeek: perfect! [6:43pm] TheDavidFactor-H joined the chat room. [6:43pm] DFrankel: @Zeek: But it doesn't work if I go via GV, because I think it is doing some call-waiting or other screening stuff. [6:43pm] DelphiWorld: what is h248? [6:43pm] Zeeek: so, one caller possible on VUC-VOIP [6:44pm] DelphiWorld: thank you for explaning [6:45pm] Reubwen joined the chat room. [6:45pm] Zeeek: Hi Reubwen [6:45pm] Reubwen: hi Zeeek-man! [6:46pm] joat left the chat room. ("Ex-Chat") [6:46pm] joat joined the chat room. [6:47pm] Zeeek: we should all wear our VUC t-shorts [6:47pm] Zeeek: er shirts [6:47pm] Zeeek: I love when you guys get all geeky [6:47pm] RB2: lol [6:47pm] • Zeeek is only superficially geeky [6:48pm] maximCH: lemme put on my tin-foil hat [6:48pm] Zeeek: by the way I am on the.... [6:48pm] Zeeek: of the photo [6:48pm] maximCH: left! [6:48pm] leifmadsen: back in a bit. I gotta go clean the living room before the g/f gets home tomorrow [6:48pm] Zeeek: One more guess, where is Zeeek in this photo? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2407292/PFDA800.jpg [6:48pm] Zeeek: leifmadsen: you are excused [6:49pm] Zeeek: strip club... [6:49pm] Zeeek: mumble [6:51pm] ricko73: temporarily in the call [6:51pm] leifmadsen: on the left! [6:52pm] DelphiWorld: leifmadsen: on the right [6:52pm] Zeeek: DelphiWorld: who says? [6:52pm] uk-david joined the chat room. [6:52pm] Zeeek: uk-david: Yo! [6:52pm] DelphiWorld: Zeeek: lol [6:53pm] • Zeeek is now dialed in on Gigaset S685IP as well [6:53pm] ricko73: Zeeek: you had dark hair? [6:53pm] uk-david: Zeeek: Hi - I'm not skype'd in yet - just doing that part [6:53pm] Zeeek: I was born with red hair and freckles [6:54pm] ricko73: you look like you were 'enjoying the 60's' in that photo [6:54pm] Zeeek: we will have to vote on ZipDX Vote bridge [6:54pm] ricko73: or at the very least hung over [6:54pm] Zeeek: Everyone on Zip DX has a vote [6:54pm] Zeeek: Vote from left to right [6:55pm] Zeeek: One more guess, where is Zeeek in this photo? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2407292/PFDA800.jpg [6:55pm] Zeeek: VOTE 1 2 3 OR 5 [6:55pm] Zeeek: 1 = left, 5 = right [6:55pm] ricko73: 1 [6:56pm] thomas_austria joined the chat room. [6:56pm] Zeeek: uk-david: what are you dialed in on? [6:56pm] uk-david: ld.vum.me [6:57pm] Zeeek: uk-david: ok, I will unmute you [6:57pm] Reubwen: this time it's not me [6:57pm] ricko73: I'm locally muted [6:59pm] maximCH: longer [6:59pm] maximCH: I have beer and food [6:59pm] ricko73: maximCH: I have a ref. full of turkey and related stuff [7:00pm] Zeeek: back top Freesentral [7:00pm] Zeeek: Are there any questions? [7:00pm] ricko73: her mom must be more technical than my mom [7:00pm] abalashov: Zeeek: Sorry, didn't mean to derail. I was just fascinated by this particular angle of Yate and you invited me to ask the question. I did not mean to waste anyone's time. [7:00pm] maximCH: my mom can hardly turn on the TV [7:00pm] ricko73: my mom asks where's the squiggly W (Word) [7:01pm] Zeeek: no apologies are nec [7:01pm] • uk-david waves at leifmadsen [7:02pm] RB2: Zeeek, I'm not overly familiar with yate, how does it compare (resource-wise) to *? Is it more lightweight or on par? [7:02pm] abalashov: RB2: More lightweight. [7:02pm] Ottone: Will it be scriptable, user extensible? [7:02pm] abalashov: RB2: But that's not hard to achieve. [7:02pm] dicodread: is there any appliances? [7:02pm] RB2: true enough abalashov [7:02pm] abalashov: dicodread: That's the direction FreeSentral is going in. [7:03pm] Zeeek: abalashov: [7:03pm] abalashov: YES! [7:03pm] abalashov: Thank you Diana. [7:04pm] RB2: lol [7:04pm] Ottone: We neeeeed more philosopy! [7:04pm] Ottone: phy [7:04pm] Ottone: Ok, next! [7:05pm] Ottone: [7:05pm] abalashov: My parents teach philosophy, and I was a philosophy major before I dropped out [7:07pm] DelphiWorld: Zeeek: question [7:07pm] Zeeek: go [7:07pm] DelphiWorld: Zeeek: what type of endpont can we connect in FreeSentral? [7:07pm] Ottone: No, the question is about the PBX GUI [7:07pm] Ottone: y [7:08pm] l-fy: DelphiWorld: freesentral supports h323, sip, iax [7:08pm] DelphiWorld: leifmadsen: very nice [7:08pm] DelphiWorld: l-fy: nice [7:09pm] DelphiWorld: any scripting? [7:09pm] DelphiWorld: to write applications [7:09pm] Reubwen: since I came in late today - have anyone compared it to FreePBX? [7:09pm] l-fy: DelphiWorld: yate does that already, and it does a great job, because it gives you direct access to yate [7:09pm] RB2: http://freesentral.com/index.php/Screenshots/DIDs --> Second screenshot [7:09pm] RB2: Shows Destination as a script [7:09pm] DelphiWorld: l-fy: ok [7:09pm] Zeeek: RB2 ok [7:10pm] l-fy: Reubwen: freesentral can be compared with trixbox pro not with freepbx because it has far more features [7:10pm] abalashov: Is it *intended* to be extensible? [7:10pm] l-fy: yes [7:10pm] l-fy: and to be easy to upgrade [7:10pm] l-fy: for example you can upgrate it even from svn [7:11pm] Zeeek: USA based peeps, Please look at this site and consider donating to them: http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org [7:11pm] abalashov: Extensibility on one level is just hacking the code, but also it is possible to build something using APIs, service architecture etc. specifically to allow people to do so as a key and anticipated use case, as Asterisk does with dial plan, AGI, AMI, etc. [7:11pm] Zeeek: this is my PSA for today ^^^^^^^ [7:11pm] DelphiWorld: donate to Yate Team [7:11pm] DelphiWorld: that support all Voip protocols [7:11pm] Zeeek: noo, pay null.ro for consulting [7:12pm] DelphiWorld: l-fy: also FreeSentral is fully accessible [7:12pm] DelphiWorld: l-fy: is unable to compare with TrixBox that is zero accessible [7:14pm] Zeeek: I always have at least 5 SIP providers [7:14pm] Zeeek: maximCH: you aren't right [7:15pm] Zeeek: uk-david: are you still dialed in? [7:15pm] maximCH: Zeeek: I have like 3 outgoing and about 5 incoming providers [7:16pm] Zeeek: yeah [7:16pm] uk-david: yes, I'm still on [7:16pm] Zeeek: but are you muted? [7:16pm] Zeeek: I see a caller on Talkshoe [7:16pm] Zeeek: do you need to be unmuted? [7:16pm] uk-david: yes, I muted myself [7:16pm] Zeeek: ok [7:19pm] merlyn joined the chat room. [7:20pm] Zeeek: ho merlyn [7:20pm] Zeeek: so you got your pseudo back? [7:20pm] Zeeek: maybe you shluld try to register it? [7:20pm] DelphiWorld: Zeeek: pseudo variable lol [7:21pm] NerdUno left the chat room. ("Quit") [7:22pm] RB2: Is the Jabber server going to provide some IMS/Presence functionality in the future? [7:23pm] DelphiWorld: RB2: i think yeah [7:23pm] DelphiWorld: RB2: i hop that can provide jingle [7:24pm] Ottone: Presence is important, but IM not so much [7:25pm] RB2: I do like the ability to look at my IM list and be able to see phone status though. [7:26pm] l-fy: it's ok to have 5 provides [7:26pm] petchaw left the chat room. (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [7:27pm] l-fy: it's wrong to learn a language to add providers [7:27pm] l-fy: RB2: yes , jabber server it [7:27pm] l-fy: RB2: yes , jabber server it's there for IMS and Presence and File Transfer and other stuff [7:27pm] abalashov: dial plan syntax, sip.conf syntax [7:29pm] Ottone: mobile phone [7:29pm] Ottone: aka "visual voicemail" [7:31pm] abalashov: Social Voicemail 2.0 [7:35pm] Ottone: I just disabled the DND button on a bunch of SNOM phones [7:35pm] nexsip left the chat room. [7:36pm] steely_glint joined the chat room. [7:36pm] Ottone: This is nicer with calendar integration [7:36pm] Ottone: Better manage this in your calendar, so u don't have to do it in two places [7:36pm] TheDavidFactor-H left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [7:36pm] Zeeek: no good [7:37pm] Zeeek: calendar is for known events [7:38pm] FearNoIdea: I am going to throw my perception out there [7:38pm] steely_glint: http://www.virtuosity.com/wildfire_features.html [7:39pm] FearNoIdea: If you can capture the numeric entry of time frames from the keypad and drop it to a txt file [7:39pm] FearNoIdea: Parse an email and drop to a txt [7:39pm] FearNoIdea: have a cron running to evaluate the txt [7:39pm] FearNoIdea: sed/awk the conf based on the txt file [7:39pm] Ottone: If you NOW you want to be put on-line in 2 hours again then that IS a known event [7:40pm] Ottone: Otherwise use Presence and go to off-line or DND [7:42pm] friese joined the chat room. [7:42pm] friese: hi [7:42pm] friese: is this a channel about voip? [7:42pm] petchaw joined the chat room. [7:42pm] maximCH: no [7:42pm] maximCH: it's about motorcycles. [7:43pm] friese: mhm ok [7:43pm] Reubwen: ... and SIP packets ... [7:43pm] friese: yes [7:43pm] Reubwen: erh... ZEN packets I'd say. [7:43pm] maximCH: lol [7:44pm] friese: i have a lan-connection in evry room at home, also i got 1 isdn phone, can i attach the isdn phone to the network and then use lan-phones so i can install phones in evry room without making a lot of new connectionsß incompatible encoding [7:45pm] abalashov: friese: This is a channel based around a conference call/podcast for (mainly open-source) VoIP enthusiasts [7:45pm] Reubwen: friese: you need a VoIP2ISDN "thing" (gateway, pbx, etc) [7:45pm] friese: ok [7:45pm] abalashov: friese: Usually with focused, well-defined subject matter. [7:45pm] friese: is there any good modell? [7:45pm] Zeeek: channel about voip? NO WAY! [7:45pm] maximCH: friese: if you deploy IP-phones then you won't need the ISDN phone anymore. [7:46pm] friese: yes [7:46pm] Zeeek: all questions are welcome [7:46pm] Reubwen: friese: that will depend on how much you are going to do yourself. [7:46pm] friese: but i need to connect the isdn line into the lan [7:46pm] abalashov: friese: You *could* do this, but it sounds like reaching over shoulder to touch ass. [7:46pm] maximCH: friese: then you want to use a PBX that can take a ISDN line ... [7:46pm] abalashov: friese: There are easier ways to accomplish this that don't involve the use of an ISDN BRI line. [7:46pm] friese: mhm [7:46pm] maximCH: friese: the FritzBox can probably help you. [7:46pm] friese: yes [7:47pm] maximCH: not really a pbx... but it has some basic functions [7:47pm] friese: but that does in reverse way [7:47pm] Reubwen: FritzBox is really really good. [7:47pm] friese: it uses voip from the internet and attched my isdn phones to that [7:47pm] Reubwen: friese: FritzBox can go both ways. [7:47pm] maximCH: no ... the fritzbox can also to the other way round [7:47pm] friese: it can? [7:47pm] friese: how to do this? [7:47pm] friese: i have an modell 7050 [7:47pm] maximCH: my neighbor has one and I set it up .. he gets incoming calls through ISDN and they get routed to IP phones. [7:48pm] Zeeek: THE ANSWER WAS..... [7:48pm] maximCH: it needs both a S bus and a U bus [7:48pm] Zeeek: extreme right [7:48pm] maximCH: omfg [7:48pm] maximCH: could have sworn on the left [7:48pm] friese: s bus? u bus? [7:48pm] Reubwen: friese: that is ISDN speak. [7:48pm] friese: ok [7:48pm] friese: the fritzbox i have is already attached to a isdn line [7:49pm] friese: and its also connected to a isdn phone [7:49pm] DaveM_: why is 200 more of a milestone than say 201? [7:49pm] friese: and what do i need to make and buy to get a ip-phone into the lan? [7:50pm] DaveM_: no free shirts... not going. [7:50pm] abalashov: DaveM_: Round number. [7:50pm] maximCH: AstriEurop [7:50pm] maximCH: http://www.astrieurop.com/en/ [7:51pm] Reubwen: http://www.astrieurop.com/en/ [7:51pm] Jacke: Zeeek: I'm considering going - that's why i hasked you if you're based in paris a few days back [7:52pm] maximCH: I'll be in Brazil in December [7:52pm] maximCH: wearing SHORTS and VUC T-shirts [7:52pm] Zeeek: dec 22 to jan 4 [7:53pm] DaveM_: That is the single most usless website I have ever seen: http://www.astrixeurope.com/ wasted money on domain [7:53pm] maximCH: there's a phone number on the site.. maybe we should call then and invite them to VUC to pitch the conference. [7:53pm] Reubwen: maximCH: good idea. [7:53pm] DaveM_: trains don't trug... they chug [7:55pm] friese: i still dont get it, how to setup my fritzbox [7:55pm] DaveM_: England is not a country [7:55pm] DaveM_: Look for Londinium [7:56pm] maximCH: Royaume_Uni [7:56pm] RB2: Zeeek, would you recommend the Gigaset phones? [7:56pm] DFrankel: @RB2: I would. [7:57pm] friese: are there any tutorials in how to setup the fritzbox? [7:57pm] RB2: DFrankel, Thanks. I've been looking. Any specific model you'd suggest? [7:58pm] petchaw left the chat room. (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [7:58pm] maximCH: friese: the model you have doesn't support what you want to do [7:58pm] petchaw joined the chat room. [7:59pm] Zeeek: http://www.astrieurop.com/medias/mediakit/AstriEurop_Call%20for%20papers%202010.pdf [8:00pm] RB2: [8:02pm] saghul joined the chat room. [8:02pm] maximCH: friese: the 7270 ISDN version can probably do what you want. [8:03pm] maximCH: friese: basically you need 2 ISDN connectors on the Fritzbox. One would be the connector to your incoming ISDN line of the house. The second is a S-bus where you can connect your ISDN phone to. [8:11pm] Zeeek: TALKSHOE GOING DOWN NOW [8:11pm] steely_glint: So if I wam looking for an 8 port analog device to plug into a legacy analog pbx, what should I use ? [8:12pm] uk-david: Xorcom Astribank? [8:12pm] Reubwen: steely_glint: I concur regarding Xorcom. [8:12pm] steely_glint: ok, let me look. [8:13pm] Reubwen: steely_glint: a bit on the expensive side compared to a Atcom IP08. [8:13pm] uk-david: There in a 8 FXS version - which is what you would need, it you are looking to hook-up via the analog line connections of the PBX [8:14pm] Reubwen: steely_glint: also Mediatrix has a 8 port product (if I remember correctly) [8:14pm] uk-david: If it's in the UK steely_glint, I have heard that the Atcom has issues with our caller ID data... [8:16pm] Jacke: steely_glint: fxs or fxo? [8:17pm] Jacke: steely_glint: 8*fxs = sipura spa8000 [8:17pm] Reubwen: the spa8000 is braindead. [8:18pm] Jacke: what do you mean by braindeda? [8:18pm] Reubwen: last time I tried it, it did not have any internal routing. [8:18pm] Reubwen: one FXS <=> 1 SIP account. [8:19pm] Reubwen: what I was needing back then was one SIP account <=> many FXSes. [8:20pm] Reubwen: so basically the SPA8000 equals to haveing 8 singple port ATAs [8:20pm] Jacke: Reubwen: considering it as a simple sip<->fxo gateway, linked to an engine like asterisk or yate - it's just about enough. [8:20pm] Jacke: especially considering its price [8:20pm] Reubwen: Jacke: yeah - I agree if you can do that, it's excellent. [8:21pm] Jacke: Reubwen: much better then most grandstream stuff [8:21pm] Reubwen: Jacke: [8:26pm] steely_glint: It may be deployed in New Zeeland [8:28pm] DelphiWorld: l-fy: yate can run in embedded system? [8:29pm] abalashov: it is rather lightweight [8:29pm] abalashov: so quite conceivably [8:29pm] abalashov: certainly easier to shoehorn into one than Asterisk [8:34pm] merlyn is now known as _merlyn_. [8:35pm] Guest29740 left the chat room. ("leaving") [8:36pm] abalashov: Zeeek: I gotta jet here ... [8:37pm] Ottone: sipgate.de lists swiss mobile with 25 euro cents... [8:37pm] abalashov: Zeeek: Yes, there are always fees being pocketed, in the US as well [8:38pm] thomas_austria: in austria the lowest rate is 4 cent per minute with a prepaid card [8:38pm] maximCH: http://backsla.sh/betamax [8:39pm] thomas_austria: yes, for all calls insight austria, landline and mobiles [8:39pm] maximCH: that's from landline to mobile? [8:39pm] maximCH: or mobile to landline? [8:40pm] thomas_austria: mobile to mobile and mobile to landline [8:40pm] imchandave left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) [8:41pm] maximCH: then again I hear that Austria is the testmarket in EU for mobile phones. [8:42pm] thomas_austria: yes, i think in austria we have one of the lowest interconnection fees in whole europe [8:42pm] Ottone: Most bigger companies are now re-integrating their mobile branches into the general telecom body [8:42pm] Ottone: So T-Mobile is going to return to T-Com [8:42pm] Ottone: Orange already did so [8:43pm] Ottone: To me an indication that those are making profits - but I could be wrong [8:44pm] Ottone: No, you pay it [8:44pm] maximCH: http://www.swisscom.ch/res/festnetz/tarife-ausland/index.htm [8:44pm] maximCH: this is the ILEC's charges... [8:45pm] DelphiWorld: how do i get a sip to skype or skype to sip like vuc.me? [8:45pm] maximCH: and USD/CHF is roughly 1:1 [8:45pm] maximCH: so call to Brazil is 0.65 per minute... [8:45pm] maximCH: with any decent voip provider it's 0.03 [8:46pm] maximCH: DelphiWorld: SkypeForAsterisk does that. [8:46pm] Ottone: The nasty thing: You might pay roaming charges when people leave a voicemail message in your box (note: I don't mean you listening to the recording) [8:46pm] DelphiWorld: maximCH: very hig pricing [8:46pm] maximCH: also note that they have a "high" and "low" tarif... high is Mo-Fr during business hours... [8:46pm] maximCH: and low is outside business hours and weekends... [8:47pm] maximCH: with VoIP it's always the same. [8:48pm] matphillips joined the chat room. [8:50pm] steely_glint left the chat room. (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [8:53pm] friese: maxi: my fritzbox has these 2 connectors [8:53pm] friese: one for the isdn input and one for the isdn phone [8:53pm] friese: they also both work [8:54pm] maximCH: friese: http://www.avm.de/en/Produkte/FRITZBox/FRITZ_Box_Fon_WLAN/index.php## [8:54pm] maximCH: friese: click the Connectivity tab [8:55pm] maximCH: friese: so the connector all the way on the left. You have that connected to your ISDN line? [8:55pm] friese: mine has all connectors, except usb and only 2 lan ports [8:55pm] Zeeek: http://www.voipusersconference.org/about/zipdx-troubleshooting/ [8:55pm] friese: but i think i have more [8:56pm] maximCH: friese: if your home ISDN line is connected to "Tel" and your isdn phone connected to "S0" then you should be all set [8:56pm] friese: there is the dsl input, but i dont see a isdn input wich i have on your picture [8:56pm] friese: only s0 where i connected my isdn phone [8:56pm] friese: ok [8:56pm] maximCH: well ... the DSL and ISDN input is the same [8:56pm] maximCH: assuming you have both services on the same line [8:56pm] friese: here i have 2 ports for that [8:57pm] friese: http://voip.pomocnik.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/FRITZ_Box_Fon_WLAN_7050_2.jpg [8:57pm] friese: see [8:57pm] friese: thats my box [8:57pm] friese: maybe oin newer boxes the splitter is integrated [8:58pm] maximCH: with this it should work [8:58pm] friese: ok [8:58pm] maximCH: so it's all about the configuration [8:58pm] friese: yes [8:58pm] friese: and how do i do that [8:58pm] friese: btw, ure from switzerland? can you speak german? [8:59pm] maximCH: yes I can but this is an English speaking channel. [8:59pm] friese: ok [9:00pm] friese: so, i now need to setup lan-phones on the box right? [9:00pm] maximCH: actually... I don't think the fritzbox supports IP phones connected to the LAN. [9:01pm] maximCH: let me try to remember this... [9:01pm] friese: but thats exactly what i wanted [9:01pm] leifmadsen left the chat room. ("out!") [9:01pm] maximCH: I think your best bet is to put a VoIP PBX on your LAN [9:01pm] abalashov left the chat room. [9:01pm] maximCH: e.g. Freesential ... [9:02pm] maximCH: or asterisk [9:02pm] friese: ok [9:02pm] maximCH: and you connect Fritzbox as a client to the PBX ... [9:02pm] FearNoIdea: 1 vote for SwitchVox free edition [9:02pm] maximCH: the Fritzbox you can then use as a gateway into and from ISDN ... [9:03pm] friese: switchvox seems to cost 1595$, thats quite much [9:03pm] FearNoIdea: There is a free edition [9:03pm] FearNoIdea: More than enough for home use [9:03pm] RB2 left the chat room. ("Ex-Chat") [9:03pm] friese: ok [9:04pm] friese: aha [9:04pm] friese: its a linux distri? [9:04pm] FearNoIdea: http://www.digium.com/en/products/switchvox/free-trial.php [9:04pm] FearNoIdea: yes [9:04pm] friese: so i need a server for it, right? [9:04pm] friese: mhm ok [9:04pm] FearNoIdea: It's the most painless to setup [9:04pm] FearNoIdea: Any low spec machine will do fine [9:04pm] friese: ok [9:04pm] FearNoIdea: I run it in a virtual machine at home [9:04pm] friese: any special hardware required= [9:04pm] maximCH: nothing at all [9:04pm] friese: isdn card or something? [9:05pm] FearNoIdea: all LAN [9:05pm] maximCH: no .. 'cause you will use your fritzbox for the isdn gateway [9:05pm] friese: ok [9:05pm] FearNoIdea: You register it as a client to your fritzbox [9:05pm] maximCH: unless you want to get rid of the fritzbox [9:05pm] friese: aha [9:05pm] FearNoIdea: Then use IP phones in home [9:05pm] FearNoIdea: I like the Gigaset phones for home [9:05pm] friese: so the fritzbox already hands out isdn connections in the lan? [9:05pm] maximCH: gigaset's not bad... however they don't support call waiting with voip providers [9:05pm] friese: cant i then use a software phone on my pc and dont need switchvox or so? [9:06pm] maximCH: and I haven't managed to create a 3-way conference from the phone yet... or transfer calls and such. [9:06pm] RB2 joined the chat room. [9:06pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: I figured out the hold and call transfer [9:06pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: pretty sure I did a conference using the 675IP [9:08pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: It's a rather painful and sluggish process to transfer calls to anything outside the Gigaset AP. IE another SIP extension [9:08pm] friese: so switchvox is a voip-server. fritzbox handles isdn conneciton over lan to my server running switchvox, the ip-phones in my lan connect to the server who then uses the fritzbox isdn? [9:09pm] maximCH: friese: yes. [9:09pm] friese: aha ok [9:09pm] FearNoIdea: phone -> switchvox -> fritzbox -> world [9:09pm] friese: isnt there any phone that can directly use the fritzzboxs isdn? [9:09pm] maximCH: not for IP phones [9:10pm] maximCH: fritzbox doesnt' support IP clients [9:10pm] friese: but switchvox is a ip client to the fritzbox i think???? [9:10pm] maximCH: no.. the other way round... [9:10pm] maximCH: the fritzbox is the client [9:10pm] friese: huh [9:10pm] friese: the fritzbox? [9:10pm] matphillips left the chat room. [9:10pm] maximCH: switchvox is the server [9:10pm] friese: i dont get it [9:10pm] friese: yes [9:11pm] friese: how does switchvox get isdn? [9:11pm] maximCH: uhm [9:11pm] maximCH: I think you have to do some funky forwarding within the fritzbox [9:11pm] friese: yes [9:11pm] maximCH: so you define switchvox as one of your providers [9:11pm] Reubwen: friese: have you considered to go 100% VoIP? [9:11pm] friese: mhm [9:11pm] maximCH: and on the fritzbox you forward to switchbox [9:12pm] maximCH: I agree with Reubwen ... just dump isdn. [9:12pm] maximCH: it's crap anyway [9:12pm] friese: can i still have my old phone number then? [9:12pm] maximCH: and there's probably VoIP providers that can port your phone number [9:12pm] Reubwen: friese: what country are you living in? [9:12pm] friese: germany [9:12pm] maximCH: at least in Switzerland they have that. [9:12pm] friese: i use t-online [9:12pm] Reubwen: friese: then it is no problem. [9:12pm] maximCH: then again I dumped the old number alltogether. [9:13pm] maximCH: which was nice as all unwanted telemarketing calls stopped. [9:13pm] friese: is voip more expensive than isdn? [9:13pm] Reubwen: friese: I belive that it should be less expensive. [9:13pm] maximCH: voip is cheapest. [9:13pm] friese: nice [9:13pm] Reubwen: friese: check out www.sipgate.de [9:13pm] Reubwen: friese: AFAIK sipgate.de can port your number. [9:13pm] friese: mhm [9:14pm] FearNoIdea: Talking about cheaper calling. I may very well be adding a PORTech mv-370 to my home setup. Leverage my mobile-2-mobile -> VoIP to reduce my cellular bill [9:14pm] Reubwen: friese: ... and get a IP-enabled Siemens Gigaset. [9:14pm] FearNoIdea: http://www.8774e4voip.com/Gigaset_A580IP_p/gigaset-a580-ip.htm [9:15pm] FearNoIdea: http://www.8774e4voip.com/Gigaset_S675_IP_p/gigaset-s675-ip.htm [9:15pm] friese: but thats wireless [9:15pm] friese: i dont like wireless phones [9:15pm] maximCH: FearNoIdea: I considered that at one point... [9:15pm] Reubwen: friese: is that a problem? [9:15pm] Reubwen: friese: go for a LInksys SPA telephone then [9:15pm] maximCH: FearNoIdea: but then they came up with cell plans where you can also define landline's to call for free... [9:16pm] maximCH: Reubwen: by the way... I have an Android phone now .. and there's a very nice free software on the Android Market called "PhoneCard" [9:16pm] Reubwen: friese: sipgate.de also sells hardware. [9:16pm] Reubwen: maximCH: cool - I'll check it out. [9:16pm] maximCH: Reubwen: it calls my asterisk, enters code, uses disa ... and all very automatic. Pretty neat. [9:16pm] RB2: Reubwen, I've heard from former Cisco folks that they really dislike the Linksys phones. Are they just bitter? [9:16pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: I currently have unlimited calling and data. All at the low low cost of $160/mo US. So I think I need to do something different. [9:16pm] friese: i dont know, theres really no little device i can plug my isdn and a lan-port into and it then forwards calls to a i-phone? [9:17pm] maximCH: FearNoIdea: 160??!! [9:17pm] Reubwen: maximCH: yeah - call-through functionality. Does it automatically intercept outoing calls, or do you need to dial from within the app? [9:17pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: Per phone... [9:17pm] maximCH: Reubwen: automatically intercepts the calls which is nice [9:17pm] maximCH: FearNoIdea: you don't really call that cheap, right? [9:18pm] Reubwen: maximCH: cool - we are currently working on doing the same on the S60 on behalf of a client. [9:18pm] maximCH: Reubwen: I know... I remember we were tweeting about it... [9:18pm] Reubwen: friese: the "little device" is called a FritzBox [9:18pm] friese: its not [9:18pm] maximCH: Reubwen: but I sold my N97 ... was unhappy with it. [9:18pm] friese: its not doing what i want [9:18pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: My cellular bill is insane. I use over 4k min month, roughly 15k txt [9:18pm] Reubwen: maximCH: as any software development - Thing Takes Time [9:19pm] friese: i just want a internet phone with that i can talk over my isdn line [9:19pm] friese: and i dont really want a pc running for that all the time [9:19pm] Reubwen: friese: get another FritzBox then - that can do what you want. [9:19pm] friese: wich? [9:19pm] Zeeek: friese: we all want that [9:20pm] maximCH: Reubwen: actually I don't think the Fritzbox will accept calls from an IP phone and route them to ISDN ... [9:20pm] Reubwen: maximCH: oh ok. [9:20pm] maximCH: the question is: why do you want to make a call from an IP phone through an ISDN line where you pay more than making the call through VoIP? [9:20pm] Reubwen: friese: there is a company called Epygi who does ISDN2SIP [9:21pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: The other idea behind the GSM gateway is that I can script sms notifications from my servers [9:21pm] Reubwen: friese: and Matrix telecom. [9:21pm] Reubwen: friese: and Patton/InAlp (but these are on the expensive side) [9:22pm] maximCH: FearNoIdea: what I would do is get some plan that gives you unlimited calls to a certain number (or a set of numbers) ... [9:22pm] friese: mhm [9:22pm] maximCH: FearNoIdea: and define one of those to be your asterisk server and use DISA on it. [9:22pm] friese: the epygi wuadro isn voip gateway, is that what im searching? [9:22pm] Reubwen: friese: http://www.epygi.com/quadro-gateway/70/#isdn [9:22pm] friese: yes [9:23pm] friese: there i connect the isdn line and a lan port from my switch [9:23pm] Reubwen: that is a pretty cool box since it can do both NT and TE. [9:23pm] friese: do i need to connect the wan port also? [9:23pm] friese: nt? te? [9:23pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: The idea was leveraging the mobile-2-mobile. So outbound goes cell -> gsm gateway -> * -> (lowest cost provider for call) [9:23pm] Reubwen: with that device you can also plug in your old ISDN telephone. [9:23pm] maximCH: right [9:24pm] friese: thats not needed [9:24pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: setting my phonebook in cell to dial the gsm gateway, pause, dial recipient [9:24pm] friese: or can i connect the fritzbox isdn input to that gateway and still get the alerts on my pc if someone calls? [9:25pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: Set my oubound callerID to my SIP trunk So inbound is always routed SIP Trunk -> * -> gsm gateway -> cell (via mobile-2-mobile) [9:25pm] maximCH: FearNoIdea: that's exactly what "PhoneCard" on Android phones can do. [9:25pm] Reubwen: friese: maybe. [9:26pm] maximCH: friese: there's probably another dirty solution ... [9:26pm] maximCH: the IP phones... [9:26pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: I am really interested in getting my hands on an Android phone. However prior to the "Droid" the hardware never impressed me. [9:26pm] friese: ?? [9:26pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: I think the hardware needs to catch up to the software's potential. [9:26pm] maximCH: friese: you can probably connect the IP phones to sipgate.de ... [9:26pm] maximCH: friese: and define sipgate.de also as a provider on the fritzbox [9:26pm] friese: i dont want sipgate [9:27pm] maximCH: friese: and then forward all calls to sipgate on the fritzbox [9:27pm] maximCH: but that's dirty. [9:27pm] nexsip joined the chat room. [9:27pm] dicodread: does zipdx have a bucket of minutes feature [9:27pm] maximCH: FearNoIdea: I have the HTC magic ... works very nice for me... although a hardware keyboard would be nice. [9:27pm] friese: i want to have my normal isdn from telekom [9:27pm] • Zeeek is now leaving the building [9:27pm] maximCH: friese: yeah .. you only use sipgate for the IP phones... [9:28pm] maximCH: friese: and Fritzbox for your ISDN ... [9:28pm] maximCH: friese: but you tell fritzbox to forward all your calls to sipgate... so that the IP phones would then get the call [9:28pm] friese: yes [9:28pm] petchaw left the chat room. [9:28pm] maximCH: but I'm not sure what that would do to latency ... and depends on how much bandwidth you have... [9:28pm] friese: but then i need to pay sipgate when i make calls [9:29pm] friese: dsl 768... [9:29pm] Reubwen: My German is not supergood - but maybe this also can help out http://www.telebau.de/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=66&category_id=24&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=89 [9:29pm] maximCH: friese: ah ... yeah .. this will only work to receive calls [9:29pm] FearNoIdea: maximCH: If I am using the phone as a mobile data device, a physical keyboard is necessary. Touch screen is neat, but I'm old school. I like my buttons. Been thinking of reducing my mobile to a dumb phone. Carry a netbook for data. [9:29pm] Reubwen: or is just a ata?