[6:01pm] Arie-babyTEL: hi everyone thanks for coming by [6:02pm] SebastianS: hi. anybody in vuc using the new Blink and G722? I get connected but do not hear anything [6:02pm] jtodd joined the chat room. [6:02pm] Zeeek: http://apps.facebook.com/babytel [6:02pm] Zeeek: here's the babyTel Facebook app we will be discussing today [6:02pm] Zeeek: http://annehowardpublicist.com/images/eggphoneandwalkthrough.png [6:02pm] saghul: There seems to be an issue with g722 sampling rate [6:02pm] konu joined the chat room. [6:03pm] andre joined the chat room. [6:03pm] saghul: SebastianS zipdx demo works with a little choppy audio though [6:03pm] jasonwert_ joined the chat room. [6:03pm] J-MN joined the chat room. [6:03pm] silverglade00 left the chat room. ("This is my part message.") [6:04pm] mjgraves: anyone else hearing some packet loss on Randy? [6:04pm] jasonwert_: We are here [6:04pm] dicodread: choppy on this side and I am on pstn [6:05pm] Zeeek: everyone or just me? [6:05pm] dicodread: just you [6:05pm] mjgraves: they have approx 2500 active users according to FB [6:06pm] outtolunc: i had choppiness like 1-2 minutes ago [6:06pm] DFrankel: You're OK now Randy. [6:06pm] e4voip: Sounds better now [6:06pm] saghul: i can hear randy well through skype bridge [6:06pm] OvrWrkdTech joined the chat room. [6:07pm] steely_glint joined the chat room. [6:08pm] qxork: Yeah... packet loss seems to have been found. [6:09pm] thomas_austria joined the chat room. [6:09pm] Zeeek: Speaking: Arié Moyal, babyTel [6:10pm] beek: Hello everyone... is zipdx having issues? I can't seem to log in. [6:10pm] Zeeek: http://annehowardpublicist.com/images/eggphoneandwalkthrough.png [6:10pm] Arie-babyTEL: That's me [6:11pm] steely_glint: I'm in via ZDX - [6:11pm] Zeeek: hi steely_glint [6:11pm] steely_glint: I have 5 skype channels and 4 widget channels at the moment. [6:12pm] steely_glint: hiya [6:12pm] l-fy: c u guys [6:12pm] l-fy: beer time [6:12pm] Zeeek: TDF: can you ask your quest again? [6:12pm] Zeeek: by Diana [6:12pm] Zeeek: beer time happens here during [6:13pm] TDF: wasnt mine, was in the facebook comments [6:13pm] Ottone: Egg phone: Name conflict with the device by Roman Tubl? [6:13pm] Zeeek: o [6:13pm] TDF: im not stoopid [6:13pm] jervin joined the chat room. [6:13pm] kfife: Eggphone--not to be confused with the Freedigits Pineapplephone! I use a TELEphone [6:14pm] kfife: Anyone: Is there an ITAD number for the ZipDX conference bridge [6:14pm] Zeeek: yes [6:14pm] kfife: gimmie, gimmie [6:15pm] • l-fy uses yate as a softphone [6:15pm] outtolunc: voice blaster [6:15pm] Arie-babyTEL: its called eggphone because it's shaped like an egg [6:16pm] OvrWrkdTech left the chat room. ("Page closed") [6:16pm] SebastianS: saghul: thx. will try skype then also g711 does not work with blink [6:17pm] beek: Oh great... Verizon is having some routing issues. I can get to some sites, but not others. [6:19pm] DFrankel: @kfife -- Itad number for ZipDX is 929, so maybe you can dial using 929*200901 or 929*YOURPIN? [6:19pm] televoip joined the chat room. [6:19pm] CompleteTech joined the chat room. [6:20pm] televoip left the chat room. (Remote closed the connection) [6:21pm] Arie-babyTEL: how are we doing? [6:21pm] steely_glint: beek - try www.phonefromhere.com/vuc - or skype:vuc.me [6:22pm] beek: steely_glint: It appears as though they figured out things were bad. I'm able to get on now and the sites that were unreachable and now reachable. [6:22pm] e4voip: *Cricket Noises [6:22pm] Zeeek: come on people! [6:22pm] Zeeek: ` [6:22pm] Arie-babyTEL: hehe don;t be shy [6:22pm] JTAst: hahah [6:22pm] Arie-babyTEL: i wont bite [6:22pm] Zeeek: questions, comment [6:22pm] Arie-babyTEL: i promise [6:22pm] Zeeek: You love Facebook [6:22pm] JTAst: silence is not always bad people.... [6:23pm] Zeeek: no silence is golden [6:23pm] e4voip: JTAst: Agreed [6:23pm] outtolunc: since it is actually a desktop app, is there any mobile apps? iphone/htc? [6:24pm] Ottone: u r too old [6:24pm] Arie-babyTEL: LOL [6:24pm] Arie-babyTEL: nw now [6:25pm] outtolunc: yes, sorry 'are' [6:25pm] Zeeek: the gramma nazi is on to you [6:25pm] Zeeek: outtolunc: bad, bad [6:25pm] outtolunc: twkoom (too many keyboards, only one mind) [6:25pm] outtolunc: jeez [6:26pm] Arie-babyTEL: babytelme [6:26pm] Zeeek: zipdx:32 ts:4 [6:26pm] Ottone: Is it babytel only, or opened up to any SIP user (URI) in general? [6:27pm] kfife: DFrankel: Perhaps a world first: making a SIP call via ISN on a legacy Norstar PBX [6:27pm] JTAst: bahah kfife [6:27pm] Ottone: Talk only among babytel users? [6:27pm] DFrankel: @kfife: Congratulations! The dinosaur roars! [6:28pm] CompleteTech: i didnt realize how hard it was going to be to listen in on two conference calls and eat and chek out a webinar and irc all at the same time [6:28pm] Ottone: So this is a closed service, more or less. [6:28pm] Ottone: closed user group [6:28pm] kfife: DFrankel: t will take me a few minutes to 'lift' the dialplan from my lab and drop it into this system. [6:29pm] kfife: CompleteTech: I hear you loud and clear. On the phone with my Telco porting a range of numbers at the moment. [6:29pm] Reubwen joined the chat room. [6:30pm] Reubwen: Hi guys - I'm inn. [6:31pm] Zeeek: Reubwen: WELCOME [6:31pm] ricko73: just wrapping up a different conf call [6:31pm] Zeeek: Zipdx:35 TS:4 [6:31pm] markwaters left the chat room. [6:31pm] kfife: Hey tim [6:32pm] JTAst left the chat room. ("Page closed") [6:33pm] CompleteTech: kfife: I am doing my "official" traing for wayport installs, even though I have been doing them for years now. and i have to be on a conf call with them too while watching the webinar. on irc, and listening in on this conf call. and just got 2 calls that rang over to cell from the system...gotta love it [6:33pm] kfife: CompleteTech: I love it [6:34pm] CompleteTech: [6:36pm] kfife: DFrankel: Automatic jiterbuffering must be much better on the Polycom vs Eyebeam. I hear no audio artifacts using the Polycom, I hear lots of tiny audio drops on Eyebeam. [6:36pm] Arie-babyTEL: ottone: yeah it's open to anyone on facebook that adds the app [6:36pm] Ottone: k [6:36pm] DFrankel: @kfife: Yes, there's something about eyeBeam that I've never figured out. Those artifacts are more pronounced on some PCs vs others. [6:36pm] mjgraves: did someone say bar? [6:38pm] • ricko73 passes mjgraves a fine Merlot [6:38pm] DaveM__ joined the chat room. [6:38pm] kfife: DFrankel: I see. So it may or may not be a network issue per-se rather it may be some aspect of the Windows network stack or even some aspect of Windows local resource management. Interesting. [6:38pm] Ottone: How does it deal with NAT? [6:39pm] DaveM__: First time using PhonefromHere [6:40pm] Zeeek: kfife: DARTH [6:41pm] outtolunc: jitter [6:41pm] mjgraves: whoa lotsa packet loss! [6:41pm] kfife: Zeeek: Sorry-went back to eyebeam [6:41pm] Zeeek: still jittering [6:42pm] mjgraves: he's saying that they use standard SIP approaches [6:42pm] maximCH: mjgraves: wow... I lived in Houston from 1978-1980 and was there a couple of times after that and it never even got close to temperatures for snow... that place must me a mess now. [6:42pm] mjgraves: not sure, I'm athome and glad to not be on the road [6:42pm] mjgraves: I just took a couple of pics [6:43pm] mjgraves: this is the 3rd time itssnowed here in the 12 years that I've been here [6:43pm] maximCH: wow... and everybody else talking about global warming.. [6:43pm] maximCH: anyway.. this is off-topic... sorry.. [6:44pm] kfife: Global warming? Here's proof http://totomel.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/global-warming-underwear.jpg [6:44pm] maximCH: lol [6:44pm] maximCH: nice one [6:45pm] kfife: Zeeek: Check out the link [6:45pm] dicodread: dont use facebook but peep over my wifes shoulder tonight to check out this app [6:45pm] kfife: Zeeek: it's hilarious [6:45pm] beek: Classic! [6:46pm] Zeeek: got it! e4voip wants to gibeaway the store [6:47pm] kfife: DFrankel: How well does webshare do Video streaming (or does it?). Seems like it may be optimized for sharing slides? [6:48pm] maximCH: give away the store??? [6:48pm] kfife: What's facebook? [6:48pm] beek: I don't have a face worthy of putting on a book. [6:48pm] kfife: [6:48pm] Reubwen: give away the store?! [6:48pm] Braxus: too old to be using facebook. lulz [6:49pm] DFrankel: @kfife: Does not do video. We integrate with Adobe Connect Pro, which is good for video. [6:49pm] Zeeek: Bookface (the office) [6:50pm] kfife: "Yes, I"m dressed as Bookface, the popular social networking site" [6:50pm] Zeeek: funny [6:51pm] Arie-babyTEL: Sorry we're boring you all [6:51pm] televoip joined the chat room. [6:52pm] outtolunc left the chat room. [6:53pm] qxork: gotta run... hopefulyy catch up in 2nd half. [6:55pm] e4voip: LOL [6:55pm] dicodread: the tv site? [6:55pm] steely_glint left the chat room. ("Java user signed off") [6:56pm] Reubwen: can you post the URL? [6:56pm] kfife: Arie-babyTEL: You konw how we multi-multi-multitaskers are [6:56pm] Reubwen: the secret stuff [6:57pm] Zeeek: witopia.net [6:58pm] kfife: I thought it was 'Buckazoids'. (Spacequest for DOS) [6:59pm] jervin left the chat room. ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091109125225]") [7:02pm] DaveM__: i am on phonefromhere without a mic [7:02pm] jervin joined the chat room. [7:03pm] jervin left the chat room. (Client Quit) [7:03pm] DocAwesome joined the chat room. [7:03pm] jervin joined the chat room. [7:05pm] • jsmith cheers for new codecs [7:05pm] • Zeeek cheers for jsmith [7:06pm] jsmith: I ain't all that and a bad of chips [7:06pm] mpe left the chat room. [7:06pm] kfife: IT WORKED! [7:07pm] jasonwert_: yes, HD [7:07pm] kfife: I'm connected via ISN via via my Norstar system! [7:09pm] maximCH: I'm on the vuc and on hold with the DMV at the same time. [7:09pm] jsmith: Wow! [7:09pm] • jsmith was on VUC, my cell phone, and a landline call all at the same time earlier [7:09pm] Ottone: Need to implement the "content guesser" [7:09pm] jsmith: jtodd: 128 sounds correct [7:10pm] beek: maximCH: If your DMV is like our DMV, the call will end sooner. [7:10pm] Ottone: "This codec knows what you are going to say!" [7:10pm] maximCH: it's the US DMV I'm on hold with [7:10pm] maximCH: the one in CT [7:10pm] maximCH: I'm having tax nightmares here [7:11pm] Ottone: SNOW in Huston?! [7:11pm] kfife: Currently called in via Legacy Nortel Norstar PBX via SIP by dialing an ISN! It actually workded!! [7:11pm] jsmith: Yeah... snow in the south... go figure... [7:11pm] Ottone: Wow [7:11pm] kfife: jtodd: ever heard of anyone dialing an ISN on a Norstar system? [7:13pm] Gigaset_Man left the chat room. ("Page closed") [7:14pm] jervin left the chat room. ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091109125225]") [7:17pm] Ottone: that was crucification [7:19pm] Ottone: This is the one: http://www.mgraves.org/voip/2009/11/portable-conference-phone-for-4-please/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mgraves%2Fvoip+%28Graves+On+SOHO+VoIP%29 [7:19pm] IdeaSIP joined the chat room. [7:20pm] maximCH: DMV ... 4th time I'm being transferred... [7:21pm] Ottone: Actually the Gigaset handsets are quite good for speaker operation [7:21pm] Zeeek: Ottone: some think they're not good [7:21pm] jtodd: kfife: No, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. [7:21pm] Ottone: I was suprised about their quality, they clearly beat the wired SNOM phones on this [7:22pm] Ottone: But ok, the SNOMs are not exactly good speakerphones [7:22pm] jtodd: kfife: but all stupid things are possible with legacy TDM gear. [7:22pm] andre: I can probably take care of that... a loaner that is [7:22pm] qxork: ethernet at Astricon for vuc [7:22pm] qxork: ethernet to astlinux to darrick's lap to speakerphone [7:22pm] IdeaSIP: Snome, snome on the range... [7:23pm] maximCH: heh [7:23pm] Ottone: I am still curious to see a comparison of the KonfTel firmware vs. the SNOM firmware for the 300 IP [7:23pm] ricko73: qxork: who said what? [7:23pm] maximCH: I had to spell "Switzerland" to the person at the DMV [7:23pm] kfife: DFrankel: I remember conversation earlier about Asterisk complaining about SIP UPDATEs. It's not so problematic, but if there's a little tweak to make... [7:23pm] andre: i think Konftel and Snom both run their 'own' versions [7:24pm] kfife: jtodd: That's how I'm connected right now. [7:24pm] Ottone: bazillion [7:24pm] maximCH: a frillion [7:24pm] jtodd: kfife: Excellent, with native string dialing or some bodge? (prefix is OK...) [7:24pm] CompleteTech: so much snow that i have to move...damn......i need to move [7:25pm] Ottone: Get someone from KonfTel! [7:25pm] DFrankel: @kfife: Yes, we send UPDATEs and some version of Asterisk don't seem to like that. What are you suggesting? [7:25pm] maximCH: Zeeek: speaking of John Todd... did you ever ask Digium about the European Asterisk conference? [7:25pm] kfife: I stuck an * box in-line to the telco. Asterisk intercepts ISN-formatted numbers and goes out via SIP. [7:25pm] beek: Subtle. [7:26pm] FearNoIdea: Arie-babyTel: Are you still in the room? [7:26pm] IdeaSIP: Asteurisk? [7:27pm] ricko73: finally on call... [7:27pm] ricko73: need food [7:27pm] ricko73: brb [7:27pm] Zeeek: hey! [7:27pm] maximCH: huh? [7:27pm] maximCH: that's not how I experience conferences here... [7:28pm] maximCH: that has to be a French thing [7:28pm] kfife: jtodd: I stuck an * box in-line to the telco. Asterisk intercepts ISN-formatted numbers and goes out via SIP. I have a Norstar dialplan that collects digits properly when prefixed with a *. ALA: *1234*696. [7:29pm] jtodd: kfife: cool! Can you document it? [7:29pm] CompleteTech: true [7:29pm] kfife: Sure. Can you be more specific? At digium? In a blog? At freenum? [7:30pm] ricko73: AND THE SPAM, post show [7:30pm] kfife: jtodd: Sure. Can you be more specific? At digium? In a blog? At freenum? [7:30pm] jtodd: kfife: for the freenum.org site. I really need to do a re-work on that site and get my ass in gear. [7:31pm] ricko73: jtodd: I was seeing spam from TMC post show. I unsubscribed twice and it appears to have finally stopped [7:31pm] jsmith: brighttalk.com is a hosted conf bridge solution in the UK [7:31pm] jtodd: ricko73: Really? You were getting spam from TMC to your address you gave at Astricon? Please forward to me if so. [7:31pm] ricko73: jtodd: I deleted most of it [7:31pm] qxork: orlando [7:32pm] kfife: jtodd: I'm happy to do so. Any specific 'human context' to write from? Sort of a You can do this too, 'look at this creative solution' type of a thing [7:32pm] ricko73: midwest [7:32pm] CompleteTech: michigan would be good for me...lol [7:32pm] e4voip: Me too [7:32pm] CompleteTech: lol [7:32pm] e4voip: Traverse city [7:32pm] ricko73: e4voip: you didn't go, so you have no say [7:32pm] ricko73: [7:32pm] qxork: two words: orlando [7:32pm] CompleteTech: e4voip: as long as the bridge is still not out then i will be there [7:32pm] DaveM__: compromise with Denver [7:32pm] e4voip: I'd be there for sure it it were in TC [7:33pm] andre left the chat room. ("Page closed") [7:33pm] e4voip: Just joined the call on a VVX 1500 [7:33pm] IdeaSIP: I hear Atlanta's a good food town. [7:33pm] ricko73: e4voip: we should do a 'voip' meetup somewhere in the midwest [7:33pm] CompleteTech: ricko73: i am down for that as well I am in Grand Rapids [7:33pm] qxork: how about anywhere near big buffett [7:33pm] qxork: MidWest meetup could be fun [7:34pm] Reubwen: ooppps... gotta go! CU next week! [7:34pm] DaveM__: Party at E4's new home [7:34pm] qxork: maybe a dec meetup in Frankenmuth or something [7:34pm] CompleteTech: i am down [7:34pm] qxork: vuc.MI [7:36pm] DaveM__: snow is the one thing that is not bigger in TX [7:36pm] IdeaSIP: It'll vanish before it gets to Georgia. [7:36pm] IdeaSIP: They've been threatening snow for a week now, but it won't happen. We have anti-snow local deities. [7:36pm] CompleteTech: there is a lot of snow here in Grand Rapids [7:36pm] jasonwert_: Same here in Traverse CIty [7:37pm] DaveM__: Cold in Colorado. 0 degrees this AM [7:37pm] DaveM__: Comcast bought NBC [7:37pm] Zeeek: EBAY IS THE DEVIL [7:37pm] CompleteTech: jinx [7:37pm] CompleteTech: lol [7:37pm] Zeeek: snom are just clueless dinosaurs [7:37pm] DaveM__: don't think comcast should be getting into content. [7:37pm] qxork: anyone in vegas are this weekend? [7:37pm] IdeaSIP: I had Covad for 8 years. ZERO reliability problems (some very minor outages here and there). [7:38pm] IdeaSIP: BUT.... they were completely uncompetitive on pricing, so I had to drop them eventually. [7:38pm] jsmith: qxork: I'll be in Vegas next week (teaching a class) [7:38pm] Ottone: for a reason [7:38pm] Ottone: indeed [7:39pm] Ottone: sipproxd is very incomplete for a real world [7:39pm] qxork: jsmith: ah... a client of a client will be attending that [7:39pm] jsmith: qxork: Awesome... [7:39pm] Zeeek: http://vuc.me/about/future-topics/ [7:39pm] qxork: jsmith: I'm doing an install on their facility this weekend [7:39pm] JTAst joined the chat room. [7:41pm] Zeeek: Otto One ? [7:41pm] qxork: speaking of... switched to pfsense this week [7:41pm] Zeeek: Atone? [7:42pm] Ottone: SIP REFER is one of the things that breaks, if I remember correctly [7:44pm] DaveM__: SIPDroid works well over 3G [7:44pm] CompleteTech: can any chime in and tell me if they it is possible to run 2 PBXInAFlash boxes behind a dynamic ip? such as using something like a linksys RV042 VPN router or a tomato software based router? [7:45pm] DaveM__: i run SV with DynDns with no problem. [7:45pm] Braxus left the chat room. [7:46pm] DaveM__: Has anyone been able to get SV SMB Fax T.38 to work reliably? [7:46pm] qxork: 2 PBX behind 1 IP? [7:47pm] CompleteTech: qxork: yes. say running behind like a comcast type connectiong [7:47pm] SebastianS left the chat room. [7:47pm] CompleteTech: connection [7:48pm] qxork: if you're using 2 pbx, and 1 ip... my thought would be a b2bua or something... to then handle the routing [7:48pm] CompleteTech: b2bua? [7:49pm] IdeaSIP: Back 2 Back User Agent. I think he's saying a proxy that gets the external IP and then routes to each internal box based on some sort of heuristic? Just guessing. [7:51pm] CompleteTech: got it..dont know where my head is today. [7:51pm] qxork: sorry [7:51pm] qxork: had a call [7:51pm] qxork: my thought would be yeah... use it as an agent that can then figure out which box to send it to [7:51pm] qxork: have it be the proxy [7:52pm] qxork: not sure how else it could be done on 1 ip [7:53pm] IdeaSIP: The phone company does actually check for war dialing. But we see people try and do that on IdeaSIP all the time. No one's hacked into us to do it, but they DO try and do it via legitimate channels. [7:54pm] IdeaSIP: That's the ONLY way to be sure. [7:55pm] IdeaSIP: The hard part is often getting the machine to the point where it's stable enough/accessible enough to back up your data so you can then wipe/reinstall the OS. [7:55pm] Zeeek: agreed [8:00pm] IdeaSIP: These days, a lot of that is bought and paid for by criminal organisations with the specific intent of using it for criminal activity -- blackmail, data extortion, theft, etc. [8:00pm] Zeeek: yep [8:00pm] IdeaSIP: FAR less often is it the young, enterprising teen sitting at home bored who wants to just wreak a little havoc to shake things up or who writes something that had another purpose and then got away from him. [8:04pm] IdeaSIP: 60%+ of a bank's income these days come from fees. [8:04pm] CompleteTech: i am glad my bank is not like that...it is great to have a local bank [8:04pm] IdeaSIP: I thought that, too. Until it got bought. [8:04pm] IdeaSIP: And then that one was bought. [8:04pm] IdeaSIP: And that one. And that one. [8:04pm] CompleteTech: lol