[5:28pm] ChanServ: [#vuc] Welcome to the VoIP Users Conference (VUC). Information on topics and how to call is here: http://vuc.me/ - Next conference date and time is http://vuc.me/next - Mailing list (Google Group): http://vuc.me/mailinglist - Facebook page: http://vuc.me/facebook - Linkedin group: http://vuc.me/linkedin - Twitter: @voipusers [5:29pm] Zeeek: speak! [5:30pm] danyork: Zeeek: Hi! We just had this exchange: [5:30pm] danyork: [11:20am] Zer0-Signa1: anyone know what the topic is this weeek? [5:30pm] danyork: [11:23am] danyork: Zer0-Signa1: I asked Randy on Twitter and he replied... [5:30pm] danyork: [11:23am] danyork: "@danyork It means either we have no guest or you are the guest. The latter would be preferable." [5:30pm] danyork: [11:24am] danyork: So... I guess the question really is... anyone have anything in particular they want to talk about? [5:30pm] danyork: [11:24am] Zer0-Signa1: lol easy enough [5:30pm] Zeeek: we could do a Three STooges revival? [5:33pm] danyork: Zeeek: Tim Panton said on Twitter that he can talk about a Murdoch company phone hacking - http://twitter.com/steely_glint/statuses/56376641458405376 [5:33pm] Zeeek: yes [5:33pm] Zer0-Signa1: sounds intetesting to me [5:36pm] Zeeek: have any of you who use Twitter extensively tried Thinkup? http://thinkupapp.com [5:43pm] Zeeek: Some may want to chime in here, if you're on Quora: http://b.qr.ae/idDhlz [6:01pm] JDBalogh: We are considering personal FAX numbers at PSU. One-time use, or limited time. Then back in the pool. [6:01pm] JDBalogh: Same could be used for conference calls. [6:02pm] JDBalogh: Pin numbers or CLID help keep the rif-raf out. [6:05pm] JDBalogh: We are left to our own devices - or in .e4's case that's a truckload. Begin recording about here [6:05pm] Zeeek: ear plug [6:05pm] Zeeek: plugin [6:06pm] JDBalogh: Get that plug in for the plugin so we can use the plug-in. [6:07pm] Zeeek: NoW reporters hacking phones to eavesdrop [6:08pm] packetman: wow putting in a password of 1234 because they are too stupid to change it...they are 31337 [6:08pm] Zeeek: http://www.golf-talk.co.uk/news/phone-hacking-hugh-grant-taped-former-now-journalist/124513252 [6:08pm] Zeeek: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/apr/05/phone-hacking-affair-now-journalists-arrested [6:08pm] Zeeek: http://seclists.org/isn/2011/Apr/8 [6:09pm] Zeeek: http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/77329,news-comment,news-politics,the-mole-phone-hacking-saga-two-new-of-the-world-journalists-arrested [6:09pm] packetman: ironically that's the same password that's on my luggage [6:16pm] JDBalogh: People don't change passwords - as evidenced by the SIP scanning attacks that are (apparently) working; else they would cease. [6:17pm] Zer0-Signa1: premium pay for news? [6:28pm] albro: all kinds of public phones left in canada [6:28pm] JDBalogh: We are renegotiating a contract and T1 connectivity for 131,000 toll free calls per month. [6:29pm] packetman: Yep...it makes you look cheap and small time without a toll free [6:29pm] JDBalogh: Right now we have a dedicated ATT T1 into Verizon Centrex. Later this year may be an ITSP delivering 800 service in. [6:30pm] steely_glint: ANI [6:30pm] JDBalogh: Meh! That is 130,000 minutes - only 30,000 calls. Average call length about 4 minutes. [6:30pm] danyork: [6:30pm] albro: I use 800 numbers for the ani [6:31pm] albro: when people call from a blocked cell phone i see a number that is related to the cell provider [6:31pm] JDBalogh: We don't even get source CLID (OSID) from our ATT 800 T1 trunk. It shows up on ANI list at the end of the month bill. [6:31pm] J-MN: I have an 800 number for emergencies. From a payphone you don’t need any coins. incompatible encoding [6:32pm] Zeeek: good point! [6:32pm] albro: insteadof seein the true number i would see something lig 780 451 0000 [6:32pm] JDBalogh: Many of PSU's 800 numbers are targeted to groups that ask for funding. Need to spend money to get money. [6:34pm] albro: I have no love for skype [6:34pm] danyork: http://voipsa.org/blog/2011/03/30/is-telepacifics-smartvoice-outage-a-result-of-sip-attacks/ [6:36pm] albro: does anyone have a suggestion for a hobbyist who would like an SBC? [6:38pm] Zeeek: http://www.infragard.net/ [6:40pm] JDBalogh: The first call is a bunch of fumbling. [6:40pm] Zeeek: I'm guessing [6:40pm] JDBalogh: I'm talking from direct experience. [6:40pm] Zeeek: i believe u [6:41pm] JDBalogh: They have less interest if they can't come onsite while the event is occuring. [6:41pm] JDBalogh: Once you've killed the connection, they have less info. [6:43pm] Zeeek: danyork: maybe you can think of someone we could approach about educating us? [6:44pm] timpanton: Gotta eat.... might be back in a bit.... [6:44pm] JDBalogh: Incident report form here: http://sos.its.psu.edu/resources/incidentreport.html [6:46pm] JDBalogh: Incident response team at PSU: http://sos.its.psu.edu/services/ir.html [6:47pm] JDBalogh: http://sos.its.psu.edu/services/forensics.html = process of preservation, identification, extraction of data from (and documentation of) the current state of a digital artifact. [6:50pm] JDBalogh: We encourage the use of the plus sign "+" in email names thus: JDB+vuc@psu.edu [6:50pm] JDBalogh: or JDB+walmart@psu.edu [6:50pm] JDBalogh: One-time use email - kind of like one-time use phone numbers for FAX. LOL! [6:53pm] danyork: http://www.linphone.org/ [6:54pm] danyork: http://www.linphone.org/eng/download/packages/linphone.html [6:54pm] danyork: http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=name&substr=linphone [6:55pm] albro: sounds relly nice [6:55pm] rbowles: For catchall email (and free) move a domain to Google Apps and setup a catchall address for any @mublefratz.com address .... can't beat the price [6:55pm] rbowles: Why does BLINK not provide a DTMF keypad? [6:57pm] Zeeek: correction: NUCBM [6:57pm] Zeeek: rbowles: you don't need it [6:58pm] Zeeek: click on the call part and use the number keys [6:58pm] albro: i love groundwire [6:58pm] rbowles: Thanks zeek! [6:58pm] rbowles: Sorry Zeeek ... [6:59pm] albro: I recommend Groundwire. [6:59pm] JDBalogh: http://www.media5corp.com/en/softphones/media5-fone-iphone [7:01pm] danyork: albro: Why do you like Groundwire so much? (just curious) [7:02pm] JDBalogh: http://www.acrobits.cz/11/acrobits-groundwire-for-iphone [7:02pm] danyork: http://www.acrobits.cz/25/acrobits-softphone-or-groundwire-which-do-i-need- [7:03pm] rbowles: anyone try the builtin SIP client on Android 2.3+ ? [7:03pm] JDBalogh: I want on iPhone because Verizon does not let me surf and talk at the same time. [7:03pm] Zeeek: yes, but we can't hear threm [7:04pm] JDBalogh: rbowles: Only have Android 2.2 on my HTC Incredible. [7:05pm] emora: that gets worse with age [7:05pm] JDBalogh: rbowles: Do you have a URL for the built-in SIP client? [7:05pm] albro: the problem with senility is your the last to know about it [7:06pm] JDBalogh: Central Pennsylvania: 43 degrees F and pouring rain. [7:06pm] JDBalogh: At least the snow is gone from the yard. [7:08pm] albro: JDBalogh: I still have 7 foot snow banks here. (Edmonton,Alberta) [7:08pm] Zeeek: the phone call wasn't about my motorcycle for sale [7:08pm] Zeeek: [7:08pm] Zeeek: support issues [7:09pm] emora: 80ºF in Madrid today. Feels like summer already [7:09pm] Zeeek: yep! [7:10pm] Zeeek: heh, I'm not the only one who makes typos! [7:10pm] Zeeek: "Fist, you can't go wrong with Groundwire. " [7:13pm] Zer0-Signa1: Any suggestions on a standalone wifi enabled sip device? [7:14pm] Zeeek: http://www.counterpath.com/counterpath-and-digium-launch-asterisk-based-softphone.html [7:15pm] Zer0-Signa1: i have a wifi setup with about a dozem ap's inm wds and wanna use it [7:15pm] JDBalogh: Grandstream GXV3140 [7:16pm] JDBalogh: Wifi, G.722, Video, SIP plus Skype software, etc. [7:16pm] Zeeek: http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/voip/linksys-wip330-wirelessg-ip-phone-review.asp [7:16pm] Zer0-Signa1: thanks for the lookup guys. [7:17pm] JDBalogh: I think there is an Aastra 57xx with Wifi [7:17pm] JDBalogh: (from .e4 Technologies of course) [7:18pm] warmbowski: Randy: just ran into this, multi party vid conferencing service which includes mobile devices http://www.fuzemeeting.com/web-conferencing (in case you're still looking) [7:18pm] rbowles: Any recommendations for a female voice over on just one message with quick turnaround? I can't justify the minimums at a few favorites yet. [7:19pm] rbowles: she has a min? I love her though [7:19pm] rbowles: i'll use your name [7:19pm] rbowles: i'm willing to bribe [7:19pm] rbowles: Cool, thanks! [7:19pm] rbowles: it could have er, ah, WIDE distribution [7:19pm] Zer0-Signa1: its funny ive never heard anyone talk about the magicjack? [7:20pm] Zeeek: they have [7:21pm] J-MN: Just had dinner with Allison Smith last Friday. She likes/had gnocchi. [7:22pm] Zeeek: she's great [7:22pm] Zeeek: lots of charm [7:22pm] J-MN: Sounds even better in person and has great stories. [7:22pm] Zeeek: she's just a really nice person, that makes a huge diference [7:23pm] JDBalogh: FYI: LinkedIn just launched an Android app. [7:25pm] JDBalogh: Home router: http://www.pfsense.org/ [7:25pm] J-MN: old pc with 2 nics using pfsense - Love it. Handles my 60Mb/10Mb Cable connection. [7:25pm] JDBalogh: Nice DHCP setup for custom boot parameters for phones. [7:26pm] albro: i use debian on an old laptop for a router [7:26pm] Zeeek: I use out of work telephone operators and a large switchboard [7:26pm] JDBalogh: openrouter/t0mat0/pfSense/ddwrt are all similar for generic hardware [7:26pm] Zeeek: the keep alive is a real bitch, though! [7:35pm] ILNetGuy: That's detroid for you [7:35pm] ILNetGuy: er... detroit even. [7:35pm] timpanton: http://www.oss.gm.com/2011ChevroletVolt/index.html [7:41pm] Zeeek: http://www.nabshow.com/2011/index.asp [7:41pm] cqv: Anyone else use Gizmo5/Sipphone.com to forward GVoice calls to Gizmo5 to SIP URI's? Anyone else effected by Gizmo5 demise? In note Sipphone.com still able to make URI calls from my IP-Phone direct. [7:46pm] Zeeek: http://soundcloud.com/voipusers/294-christmas-eve-special-giveaway [7:50pm] emora: It would be great to have the IRC time sync'ed with the recording to see it during playback [7:51pm] emora: wowo [7:51pm] emora: wow [7:51pm] emora: Time [7:51pm] ILNetGuy: It would probably be easy enough to get the IRC time in UTC and note the recording time also in UTC. [7:51pm] wt5n: speech to text followed by "automatic topic detection" [7:51pm] wt5n: how hard can it be [7:51pm] albro: have a machine participate in both events, [7:52pm] emora: Are there IRC transcripts? [7:53pm] albro: blackmailed by the vuc [7:53pm] emora: I came onto IRC late today. Could someone cut and paste the whole session to a file? [7:55pm] emora: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ [7:57pm] ILNetGuy: That sounds like more of a function of AAC, not MP3 [7:58pm] albro: that does sound very labour intesive [7:59pm] ILNetGuy: I think encrypted AAC is apple only, but the clear AAC protocol is open. [8:00pm] ILNetGuy: I think even google can transcribe one word [8:01pm] emora: Gotta go... but I'll keep listening... as the old Who song says I'm "going mobile." [8:01pm] Zeeek: emora: see ya [8:05pm] timpanton: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11195407 on the phone hacking [8:11pm] albro: A little bird told him [8:36pm] maximCH: good talking to you all again [8:36pm] maximCH: gonna put the little one into bed. [8:37pm] Zeeek: bye all!